The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Agent Bond]

It looks terrible on the screencaps on my non calibrated monitor, but in motion on my calibrated set-ups, it looks fine.

The same for me.

[BaerGriggs]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyWQKKZ_s8s

Here's a video I just uploaded of the ROTK Concert. Enjoy!

[MacEachaidh]

Thanks for that, BG. Pretty amazing, for sure. And that's one of my favourite moments in that film.

Hard to be sure, since you didn't show any dialogue moments, but I imagine that would be a very different sound balance. I guess such events are mostly about appreciating the score?

(Just quietly, I think I'd go a little stir-crazy trying to watch the screen from such an angle, underneath and to the side, but maybe that's me. I'm always a bit bewildered when, even in a relatively empty screening, people choose to sit right over near the side wall.)

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

It's there, but very subtle.

It looks terrible on the screencaps on my non calibrated monitor, but in motion on my calibrated set-ups, it looks fine.

If your cyan is over saturated, it's going to be worse.

Obviously, if the colour balance is off on your screen, then *any* film is going to look off in one way or another.

The "calibrated monitor" bit is a total furphy — it's not about calibration. Between the first and second films, if one film looks just right under a certain calibration, the other one is going to look "off" in some way — unless you change the settings for the colour balance between the two films, which blows the calibration theory completely out the window.

And surely anyone who plays the first two films back to back must notice the dramatic difference in colour balance in the same shots of Gandalf's battle with the Balrog in the two films? The difference is unmistakable.

The reason it looks fine in motion for most people but not in the caps is because in motion it's removed from any colour reference, and our eyes adjust. Most people don't have absolute colour in their visual perception, the way most people don't have absolute pitch in their hearing. But saying that the colour shift is not there, or not perceptible, or only very slight, as absolute statements is like people saying the pitch shift in PAL-coded DVDs is not there because they personally can't hear the diference.

[BaerGriggs]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

Thanks for that, BG. Pretty amazing, for sure. And that's one of my favourite moments in that film.

Hard to be sure, since you didn't show any dialogue moments, but I imagine that would be a very different sound balance. I guess such events are mostly about appreciating the score?

(Just quietly, I think I'd go a little stir-crazy trying to watch the screen from such an angle, underneath and to the side, but maybe that's me. I'm always a bit bewildered when, even in a relatively empty screening, people choose to sit right over near the side wall.)

The music definitely drowned out the dialogue in several cases, but I didn't really mind. But the vocals from the music were fully audible..they had the whole choir for the chanting or Sindarin portions, a young woman for parts such as the end credits song "Into The West" and the accompanying music when Arwen was on screen, and then a boy in 8th grade for the parts such as the scene where Gandalf first sees the Eagles at the Black Gate. I personally thought of the film as really just a complement to the orchestra and I probably spent just as much time watching the musicians as I did the film.

And yeah the center seats at Ravinia are reserved for donors, so I couldn't get one of those unless I wanted to be way towards the back of the pavilion, or pay about $500 for tickets. And honestly I've got my phone camera angled at such a way that I could capture as much as I could; I really wasn't too uncomfortable at all with where we were since they were aisle seats closer to left center than far left.

[pcktlnt]

I'm hoping someone can answer this, are the individual extended releases the same as the extended edition box set?

[gettodamoofies]

Originally Posted by pcktlnt

I'm hoping someone can answer this, are the individual extended releases the same as the extended edition box set?

Yes, the 5 discs are included in each set and have identical content.

[pcktlnt]

Sweet. Thanks!

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

Obviously, if the colour balance is off on your screen, then *any* film is going to look off in one way or another.

The "calibrated monitor" bit is a total furphy — it's not about calibration. Between the first and second films, if one film looks just right under a certain calibration, the other one is going to look "off" in some way — unless you change the settings for the colour balance between the two films, which blows the calibration theory completely out the window.

And surely anyone who plays the first two films back to back must notice the dramatic difference in colour balance in the same shots of Gandalf's battle with the Balrog in the two films? The difference is unmistakable.

The reason it looks fine in motion for most people but not in the caps is because in motion it's removed from any colour reference, and our eyes adjust. Most people don't have absolute colour in their visual perception, the way most people don't have absolute pitch in their hearing. But saying that the colour shift is not there, or not perceptible, or only very slight, as absolute statements is like people saying the pitch shift in PAL-coded DVDs is not there because they personally can't hear the diference.

How can you say it's not about calibration when Blu-rays are calibrated to rec 709? It's science here (and math from a calibrator's point of view). If your green primary and/or cyan secondary is off target (especially over-saturated), that is going to greatly accentuate the matter and cause issues with Fellowship. Yes, there is a very subtle "tint" to Fellowship but it's not an issue. It's been incredibly blown. I've watched this on four properly calibrated displays (three different displays technologies) with delta errors under 2 for greyscale and color and the movie looked good. No, it looked excellent. People who are watching this on a proper set-up are generally not complaining about the color. Most people are watching with inaccurate colors to begin with and green is often pushed in default modes anyway and normal drift alone in the greyscale causes this too. Fellowship can and will look worse on such displays compared to other movies because, yes, there is a subtle tint. But when up a display is up to spec, few will complain about it.

All three movies have their own 'look' anyway though - this was intended. This was the case with the theatrical versions too. The theatrical version of Fellowship does not look like Two Towers or Return of the King. And the extended version of Fellowship looks far more film-like and detailed - with better color - than the theatrical. Some of the tones and shades look gorgeous in the movie. There's maybe 5 minutes or less of content where the subtle hints of green tint are even noticeable if you try and look for it. Classic case of mob mentality screenshot craziness went on with this movie. lol

[BaerGriggs]

This post was just made on the Facebook page of Lord of the Rings in Concert:



To me this can only mean that a significantly wider release of these concerts will go on tour in 2015! I saw The Two Towers and Return of the King in the last two summers at Ravinia in Chicago, and it was far and way the best concert experience I've ever been to. For those of you that don't know, they play the films on a projector screen, and have a local symphony (Chicago Symphony Orchestra for me) play nearly all of the music from the films along with it.

I've made a separate thread in the music subforum and will update it with any information I find!

[r9800pro]

Anybody knows why Amazon.com removed the LOTR EE Blu-ray Boxset ?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lord-of-th...=B007ZQAKHU&m=

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My order hasn't arrived yet and now I am very worried.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by r9800pro

Anybody knows why Amazon.com removed the LOTR EE Blu-ray Boxset ?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lord-of-th...=B007ZQAKHU&m=



My order hasn't arrived yet and now I am very worried.

I can't guarantee this is the reason but I ordered a set recently from wbshop.com and when I received it it was missing the fifth disc to Fellow Ship Of The Ring. After three replacement sets were sent with the same disc missing they finally just sent me a copy of the fifth disc in an envelope. Perhaps there is a run of these that are all missing the disc?

[r9800pro]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

I can't guarantee this is the reason but I ordered a set recently from wbshop.com and when I received it it was missing the fifth disc to Fellow Ship Of The Ring. After three replacement sets were sent with the same disc missing they finally just sent me a copy of the fifth disc in an envelope. Perhaps there is a run of these that are all missing the disc?

There is no mentioning of that in recent Amazon reviews.

I've placed my order in July when they had the boxset on Gold box sale for $38 and still haven't recieved it yet because delivery estimate is stupid with shipping to Egypt even with expedited international shipping.

Now I am really worried that I get a a box with missing disc(s).

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by r9800pro

Anybody knows why Amazon.com removed the LOTR EE Blu-ray Boxset ?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Lord-of-th...=B007ZQAKHU&m=

My order hasn't arrived yet and now I am very worried.

Call Amazon. Click Help, click Need More Help, click Contact Us, click on your order, pick reasons and then click "Call Me". It's better than asking us.

[BaerGriggs]

Lord of the Rings Trilogy in Concert coming to NYC in 2015!

‘Lord of the Rings’ Trilogy, With Live Orchestra, Coming to Lincoln Center

Until now, when someone mentioned going to see the “Ring” cycle at Lincoln Center, you knew what that meant: four nights of Wagner at the Metropolitan Opera, where a complicated tale of Norse gods and various mortal beings vying for control of the gold from the Rhine unfolds cataclysmically – lately, on an expensive and rather scary piece of stage machinery.

In April, 2015, the phrase will take on a new meaning. “The Lord of the Rings,” Peter Jackson’s film trilogy based on the J.R.R. Tolkien books, will be screened at the David H. Koch Theater, with Howard Shore’s scores for the films performed live by the 21st Century Symphony Orchestra and Chorus of Lucerne, Switzerland, conducted by Ludwig Wicki.

It will be the first time all three films – “The Fellowship of the Ring” (2001), “The Two Towers” (2002) and “The Return of the King” (2003) – will be shown together with live orchestral accompaniments in the United States. The first two films were shown individually, in a concert format, at Radio City Music Hall in 2009 and 2010. The full trilogy was first presented with orchestra in Lucerne in 2011.

The production promises to be suitably grandiose. The 21st Century Symphony Orchestra and Chorus is 250 players and singers strong and has made a specialty of performances with film. Besides the “Lord of the Rings” films, the orchestra’s repertory includes concert-with-film performances of several “Pirates of the Caribbean” films, “West Side Story” and “Fantasia,” as well as selected scenes from James Bond and “Star Trek” films.

The orchestra will play the trilogy, in order, twice between April 8 and 12, with one cycle on three consecutive nights, and one over a weekend, including afternoon and evening screenings.

[r9800pro]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

Call Amazon. Click Help, click Need More Help, click Contact Us, click on your order, pick reasons and then click "Call Me". It's better than asking us.

I had to wait till today because it was my estimated delivery time and I've just contacted them.

CS rep told me that the package may have been lost and they can send me a replacement or a refund but since LOTR is "not in stock" they can send a replacement for the other item (Saving Private Ryan) and refund LOTR.

I asked if I can get another disc set (Dark Knight Ultimate Trilogy which I really want), she said I can place a new order but I can also wait till Monday and maybe my package will arrive. I decided to wait.

I don't know what Amazon does in these situations but if they refunded me $38 (LOTR Goldbox sale price) and I placed a new order for Dark Knight Trilogy which is now $73.72 instead of the $37 sale price, wouldn't that be unfair ?

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by r9800pro

I had to wait till today because it was my estimated delivery time and I've just contacted them.

CS rep told me that the package may have been lost and they can send me a replacement or a refund but since LOTR is "not in stock" they can send a replacement for the other item (Saving Private Ryan) and refund LOTR.

I asked if I can get another disc set (Dark Knight Ultimate Trilogy which I really want), she said I can place a new order but I can also wait till Monday and maybe my package will arrive. I decided to wait.

I don't know what Amazon does in these situations but if they refunded me $38 (LOTR Goldbox sale price) and I placed a new order for Dark Knight Trilogy which is now $73.72 instead of the $37 sale price, wouldn't that be unfair ?

Yes, but usually they won't give you a sale price that's expired, just a refund. Ask and ... . Good luck, pardner.

[MifuneFan]

No, it really isn't appropriate.

[HarcourtMudd]

Reported.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by HarcourtMudd

Reported.

Deleted.