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Old 09-22-2017, 12:40 AM   #14761
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So kidglov3s, hundreds of people, spread over dozens of companies, convened to make these Hobbit movies costing millions of dollars, and agreed they were not there to make good movies, and just phoned it in? Wow..........
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Old 09-22-2017, 02:17 AM   #14762
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wow man, it's a fantasy film that offers awesome action. sorry you didn't like it but it's really fun and probably the only adaption we'll get. is it perfect no but what film is especially fantasy. You have my blessing to go and make your own film...
The Rankin-Bass adaptation is better.
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Old 09-22-2017, 02:33 AM   #14763
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Jackson didn't learn from the lapses in taste in his Lord of the Rings adaptation.
Well he is known for Bad Taste.
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Old 09-22-2017, 02:40 AM   #14764
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So kidglov3s, hundreds of people, spread over dozens of companies, convened to make these Hobbit movies costing millions of dollars, and agreed they were not there to make good movies, and just phoned it in? Wow..........
I think to say those movies were phoned in is giving them a bit too much credit. They made money, beyond that yikes.
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Old 09-22-2017, 02:50 AM   #14765
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I wonder how long from now before we get this trilogy and the Hobbit trilogy on UHD with DV/ATMOS; anyone hear anything?
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Old 09-22-2017, 03:33 AM   #14766
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I was angry walking out of Desolation of Smaug.
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They set up this fire breathing menace that can decimate entire cities...to be done in by 5 four foot dwarves doing a Three Stooges routine.
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Old 09-22-2017, 03:37 AM   #14767
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Lol first world problems eh
On a website dedicated to discussing such issues? Yes.
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Old 09-22-2017, 03:39 AM   #14768
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That quote was taken wildly out of context
Not really. He had no time or a plan. It was a mess on set during the production and a mess in the final film. It shows.
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Old 09-22-2017, 04:07 AM   #14769
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The Rankin-Bass adaptation is better.




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Old 09-22-2017, 07:52 AM   #14770
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On a website dedicated to discussing such issues? Yes.
glad you agree
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:25 AM   #14771
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The BBC radio adaptation is the best non print version of The Hobbit
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:46 AM   #14772
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The BBC radio adaptation is the best non print version of The Hobbit
Except the mispronunciation of various names which annoys my inner Tolkien.
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:51 AM   #14773
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Except the mispronunciation of various names which annoys my inner Tolkien.
Good point; I seem to remember the same problem with name pronunciations being rife in the animated LOTR too. Missing the S from Saruman being the one that stuck out most.
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Old 09-22-2017, 09:53 AM   #14774
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Good point; I seem to remember the same problem with name pronunciations being rife in the animated LOTR too. Missing the S from Saruman being the one that stuck out most.
The BBC adaptation of LOTR and the Jackson movies are pretty good in this respect.
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Old 09-22-2017, 01:30 PM   #14775
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The BBC adaptation of LOTR and the Jackson movies are pretty good in this respect.
I remember listening to some of the BBC version of LOTR - in what is a kind of nice symmetry with the films, Ian Holm played Frodo in the radio version.
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Old 09-22-2017, 11:23 PM   #14776
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In time I kind of think the world will collectively agree that The Hobbit never happened
See, I think that in time, people will come to realize that the Hobbit movies are just fine.

I think a lot of people don't understand that this wasn't supposed to be a straight-up adaptation of the book. And thank goodness for that.

There are so many points in the book where things are just glossed over. Which is fine for a "children's novel", but in a set of movies that are supposed to tie into LotR, it just wouldn't work.

We're lucky that we've got all this great material that Tolkien wrote about (White Council stuff, Legolas being Thranduil's son, Thranduil being named lol, etc.) that Peter Jackson and Co. were able to incorporate into this "Middle-earth cinematic universe".

They're not perfect movies of course (I hate the chase scene when they're going to Rivendell.. way too long, the "out of the frying pan" scene is also way too long especially after the awesome Goblin Town sequence... I also think there should have been more Beorn carnage in BotFA), but they do a good job of telling the whole story from the book, plus other material that Tolkien wrote. Of course there's a little artistic license involved, but that goes for every movie based on a book ever but that just means we get to spend more time in Lake Town and get to actually care about it when Smaug attacks. And we get a more fleshed out Thranduil character.
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Old 09-23-2017, 01:15 AM   #14777
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You know, ive been thinking about the lotr ee's lately with all the news from Korea, and Kim Jong Un calling our president a Dotard. Lol, that's exactly what Saruman calls Theoden when he's trapped on top of the tower in the beginning of ROTK. It's always cracked me up, but seeing it in the news lately really made me chuckle.
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Old 09-23-2017, 01:58 AM   #14778
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Talking about The Hobbit films again has made me want to watch the extended trilogy again followed by the extended LotR trilogy. I'll probably do that over the weekend.
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Old 09-23-2017, 02:59 AM   #14779
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See, I think that in time, people will come to realize that the Hobbit movies are just fine.

I think a lot of people don't understand that this wasn't supposed to be a straight-up adaptation of the book. And thank goodness for that.

There are so many points in the book where things are just glossed over. Which is fine for a "children's novel", but in a set of movies that are supposed to tie into LotR, it just wouldn't work.
Oh, sure it could work. It's worked for 80 years. Want a simple way of doing that? Just have Bilbo telling the story to kids, just as he's seen doing in Fellowship of the Ring. Maybe even to a young Frodo. Even Samwise knows the story in Jackson's film. Don't force The Hobbit into being Lord of the Rings. Allow The Hobbit to be The Hobbit.
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Old 09-23-2017, 03:03 AM   #14780
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Yup, follow up arguably the most epic movie trilogy of all time with a trite little kiddie's fairy tale that takes up one movie. Might as well follow up the Star Wars saga with a one-movie epilogue instead of a new trilogy and infinite spinoffs.
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