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Old 01-26-2018, 11:41 AM   #14901
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My 2 cents: that scene definitely has noticeably awkward CGI. Frodo’s movement seems to stutter as he runs, superimposed, into the CGI mountain. Hard to see on a small screen perhaps. Very obvious though, when I watched on my large LED TV.

Agree with the comment that the LOTR trilogy has some CGi scenes that are not aging well.
Please note: I adore these films. But while the practical effects will probably still look great in the year 2118, some of the CGI is already looking cartoony in 2018.
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Old 01-26-2018, 11:44 AM   #14902
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^ I'm really not seeing the bad CGI there at all
Agreed
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Old 01-26-2018, 11:55 AM   #14903
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The CGI in The Lord of the Rings is still nop-notch IMO
For the most part, I agree. But there are still some shots that are pretty iffy.

As I said in the other thread, most of the complaints I’ve seen about The Hobbit can easily be applied to LotR. I think LotR just gets a pass because it’s older and came first. That’s just my opinion though.
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Old 01-26-2018, 12:45 PM   #14904
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My Best Man at my wedding was raising one teen and one pre-teen, and he's as big of a cinema fan as I am. We'd have to grit our teeth watching classic f/x in acclaimed films like War of the Worlds, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, King Kong '33, Harryhausen films, etc., because the kids would start laughing..."That's so fake! Ha! Ha! Ha!" Point is, if you fail to place achievements in film craft in their historical context, then no film is safe from the mockery and scorn of pre-teens living in a new world built on the hard work and breakthroughs of the old. The argument isn't, "this old movie is fake, the f/x don't hold up, ha ha ha!" The argument is, "Wow, look at what these people achieved twenty, thirty, even ninety years ago. That's so impressive."

Metropolis turns 90 this year. It's so fake.
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Old 01-26-2018, 04:46 PM   #14905
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My Best Man at my wedding was raising one teen and one pre-teen, and he's as big of a cinema fan as I am. We'd have to grit our teeth watching classic f/x in acclaimed films like War of the Worlds, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, King Kong '33, Harryhausen films, etc., because the kids would start laughing..."That's so fake! Ha! Ha! Ha!" Point is, if you fail to place achievements in film craft in their historical context, then no film is safe from the mockery and scorn of pre-teens living in a new world built on the hard work and breakthroughs of the old. The argument isn't, "this old movie is fake, the f/x don't hold up, ha ha ha!" The argument is, "Wow, look at what these people achieved twenty, thirty, even ninety years ago. That's so impressive."

Metropolis turns 90 this year. It's so fake.
Well said.
I contend it’s all about what age/where you were in life when you saw a given film. People change over the years, as do their likes/dislikes. It’s almost as if you’re encapsulated in ranging time era that can be influenced by so many external things: family, friends, school, career, kids etc.
Also surrounding memories associated with said film viewing plays a role for some. Pretty interesting stuff when you start to flip the pages if life backwards as you...*sniff*...*sniff*...*sigh*...get older.
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:33 AM   #14906
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SEVEN HUNDRED and FORTY SEVEN.

That's how many pages this thread has now. I'm here to ask about news of this trilogy coming out in 4K UHD, but I don't see any in the last few pages and there is no way I'm going to read 747 pages. So I ask:

What news of a 4K UHD release of this trilogy? (Hopefully the extended versions.)

I did see this in a thread on Fellowship color timing from not to long back and found this encouraging clip from it:

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I imagine, if WHV is going to remaster the films for 4K (if they haven’t done so already) they will have no choice but to go back to original elements to do a proper restoration for the higher resolution format. And I am sure if this comes to pass, Wingnut and Peter Jackson will be given the opportunity to review the new masters, so the public will see exactly what was intended in terms of the image and audio of the films.
Yes please!

For those of us that saw these films in the theater in all their glory, please release 4K UHD versions of these from the original elements!

Chris
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:55 AM   #14907
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SEVEN HUNDRED and FORTY SEVEN.

That's how many pages this thread has now. I'm here to ask about news of this trilogy coming out in 4K UHD, but I don't see any in the last few pages and there is no way I'm going to read 747 pages. So I ask:

What news of a 4K UHD release of this trilogy? (Hopefully the extended versions.)

I did see this in a thread on Fellowship color timing from not to long back and found this encouraging clip from it:



Yes please!

For those of us that saw these films in the theater in all their glory, please release 4K UHD versions of these from the original elements!

Chris
The problem is the overabundance of visual effects shot that are locked into 2K. IMHO, the overall films would still benefit from 4K scans and HDR, but the those VFX shots are really going to stand out like a sore thumb.
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Old 02-04-2018, 03:00 AM   #14908
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The problem is the overabundance of visual effects shot that are locked into 2K. IMHO, the overall films would still benefit from 4K scans and HDR, but the those VFX shots are really going to stand out like a sore thumb.
I just revisited them last week.....the VFX already stick out like a sore thumb just from my 4KUHD player and 4K OLED upscaling them. I'm reasonably sure WB is not going to spend the mountain of cash it would take to remaster the VFX....right?
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Old 02-04-2018, 04:16 AM   #14909
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I just revisited them last week.....the VFX already stick out like a sore thumb just from my 4KUHD player and 4K OLED upscaling them. I'm reasonably sure WB is not going to spend the mountain of cash it would take to remaster the VFX....right?
I wouldn't bet they would. However, we might see upscales.
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Old 02-04-2018, 04:28 AM   #14910
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No way the VFX are getting redone in any way, and frankly I wouldn't want them to be. Good or bad, they are what they are and I don't like the idea of revising them, or we're in LucasLand. I just hope the UHD theatrical cuts are treated with as much love as the extendeds were on BD.
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:37 PM   #14911
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What is the difference between the extended edition trilogy set released in 2011 vs the 2012 set, were there any new transfers or new masters used?
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:38 PM   #14912
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What is the difference between the extended edition trilogy set released in 2011 vs the 2012 set, were there any new transfers or new masters used?
Different packaging.
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:57 PM   #14913
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Ok because I just saw the Return of the King solo release review and they mentioned it uses a new master from the 2011 version, is there any truth to that?
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Old 02-04-2018, 09:58 PM   #14914
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Ok because I just saw the Return of the King solo release review and they mentioned it uses a new master from the 2011 version, is there any truth to that?
I highly doubt it. Can you link the review?
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Old 02-16-2018, 03:32 AM   #14915
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It might be better to ask this in the music section, but does anyone know why the soundtracks(Complete Recordings) of the extended cuts of FOTR and TTT aren't available anywhere digitally? You can get ROTK digitally and listen to it on Spotify but I can't find the other two anywhere but some youtube videos. They are my favorite film scores ever and I want to add them to my music collection without having to pay 300 dollars each for the out of print physical copies. As popular as these films are I'm confused and frustrated by the lack of availability.
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^this

It really annoys me how only The Return Of The King is available but not the others. There’s so much missing on the normal soundtrack releases.
Looks like your wish may be coming true- the FOTR Complete Recordings are getting reissued as a 3CD+BR set as well as on vinyl! Hopefully TTT and ROTK may come soon after.

Preorder here: https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Complete-Recordings/dp/B079PTDW74/
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Old 02-16-2018, 03:29 PM   #14916
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Looks like your wish may be coming true- the FOTR Complete Recordings are getting reissued as a 3CD+BR set as well as on vinyl! Hopefully TTT and ROTK may come soon after.

Preorder here: https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Complete-Recordings/dp/B079PTDW74/
I would sure like the vinyl releases if they are not expensive.
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Old 02-16-2018, 04:15 PM   #14917
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Would love the vinyl edition but think I'd need the Blu-ray as well. So I'm probably gonna go for the CD+BD edition.
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Old 02-16-2018, 05:47 PM   #14918
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I would sure like the vinyl releases if they are not expensive.
Holy crap I need that record set.
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:08 PM   #14919
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At the current price of $80 per title for the Blu-ray-audio discs, that's just $240 for all of them. A mere pittance to most of the video and audiophiles on these forums.

I have the first one on CD and the other two as 320 kbps mp3s, so I could skimp and just spend $160 to upgrade those two, but then it would not look "complete", so I guess I will have to get them all.
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Old 02-16-2018, 06:09 PM   #14920
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I would sure like the vinyl releases if they are not expensive.
Looks like MSRP is $120 here: https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fellowship-Complete-Recordings/dp/B079PDFGZK

Not exactly cheap, but a pretty typical price for a 5LP set. The packaging looks beautiful as well. I'm going to have a hard time convincing myself not to pick this up.
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