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Old 09-25-2018, 04:24 AM   #15001
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Yes, I do believe it's the exact same set, minus all the bells and whistles of the box, the book, etc. So what's on the extra discs and why don't the individual sets include them?

Maybe it was the Theatrical Special Features. Are those really that different from the Extended features?
Yeah, that’s it. The supplements from the theatrical releases were unique to those releases and not duplicated on the extended releases.

I’m not sure what the “Chronicles of the Hobbit” parts 1, 2, and 3 are. Presumably the special feature blu-ray discs from the theatrical cuts?

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Old 09-25-2018, 05:11 AM   #15002
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Yeah, that’s it. The supplements from the theatrical releases were unique to those releases and not duplicated on the extended releases.

I’m not sure what the “Chronicles of the Hobbit” parts 1, 2, and 3 are. Presumably the special feature blu-ray discs from the theatrical cuts?
They are the Theatrical cut features disks yes.
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Old 09-25-2018, 06:03 AM   #15003
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The 30 disc set seemingly has all Extended Edition bonus discs as well theatrical edition bonus discs, at least if it's the same as the UCE. Pretty cool.



Although it does not have the bonus DVDs from the Extended statue editions. They had some documentaries.

Would be cool to have the theatrical cuts as well!
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Old 09-25-2018, 08:21 AM   #15004
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But oh, how I still loathe what they did to the EE bluray. The color timing isn’t bad, per se, but it’s blatantly inaccurate and evidence supports it wasn’t the intent.
On the contrary, all evidence supports that it is intentional, and therefore accurate to the director's wishes.
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Old 09-25-2018, 11:36 AM   #15005
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That’s really cool that the big giftset includes ALL the bonus features from the theatrical and extended editions (probably excluding the Target-exclusive LEGO features for the Hobbit movies though).

The completionist in me kind of wishes they included the theatrical cuts just to have (even though I’d honestly probably never pick them to watch lol).

That big set IS nice, I just wish they had given us some NEW material that apparently exists that WB didn’t want to pay for.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:16 PM   #15006
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The big set is great but the price they were asking for it was excessive.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:19 PM   #15007
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I do wish Warner put all the sd content on a single bonus blu ray for each film, it can all fit there no problem. instead of having FOUR dvds with special features. It's just tedious.
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Old 09-25-2018, 12:57 PM   #15008
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I do wish Warner put all the sd content on a single bonus blu ray for each film, it can all fit there no problem. instead of having FOUR dvds with special features. It's just tedious.
Gotta squeeze that high list price for everything it’s got.
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Old 09-26-2018, 10:11 AM   #15009
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I intensely dislike the Hobbit adaptations, yet I bought them for the bonus features. Whatever. I have far worse films on my shelf. I think the problem is that they get a lot of things right, so when the fims step wrong, it makes the false steps appear really, really, really wrong. That happens. I was surprised by how dry the bonus content was, like people were biting their tongue.
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:09 PM   #15010
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I intensely dislike the Hobbit adaptations, yet I bought them for the bonus features. Whatever. I have far worse films on my shelf. I think the problem is that they get a lot of things right, so when the fims step wrong, it makes the false steps appear really, really, really wrong. That happens. I was surprised by how dry the bonus content was, like people were biting their tongue.
Yeah i have no interest in watching that. Meanwhile the Lord of the Rings Appendices were full of humor, honesty, passion and emotion...
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Old 09-26-2018, 12:14 PM   #15011
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The Hobbit movies were awesome and I love the VFX and production design. The action sequences are epic too.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:00 PM   #15012
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I intensely dislike the Hobbit adaptations, yet I bought them for the bonus features. Whatever. I have far worse films on my shelf. I think the problem is that they get a lot of things right, so when the fims step wrong, it makes the false steps appear really, really, really wrong. That happens. I was surprised by how dry the bonus content was, like people were biting their tongue.
I'm sure somewhere in those 10 hours of bloated & extended footage, there is a lean single 3-hour Hobbit movie that PJ could cobble together.

It would a smart and relatively inexpensive investment to capitalize on whenever the LOTR show launches on Amazon.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:11 PM   #15013
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Just editing out all the extraneous Alfrid bullshit would work wonders.
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Old 09-26-2018, 01:16 PM   #15014
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The Hobbits have their many issues and are far from perfect, but I never got the impression from the bonus features that cast and crew didn't like what they were doing- except of course for Ian Mckellen 's frustration with the sightlines in the first one.
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Old 09-26-2018, 04:41 PM   #15015
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I keep the Hobbit BR's just for the extra's, its basicly a 500 million dollar vacation video of Peter Jackson and friends.
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Old 09-26-2018, 04:59 PM   #15016
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I do wish Warner put all the sd content on a single bonus blu ray for each film, it can all fit there no problem. instead of having FOUR dvds with special features. It's just tedious.
While I don't know what all would be involved, my understanding is that each of the current Appendices are "laid out" across the 2-4 discs in their "movie", and to put them all on one disc would require extensive "reworking" so that the "disc bridging" recognizes that they are now on one disc instead of spread out across 2-6.
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Old 09-27-2018, 09:47 AM   #15017
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I intensely dislike the Hobbit adaptations, yet I bought them for the bonus features. Whatever. I have far worse films on my shelf. I think the problem is that they get a lot of things right, so when the fims step wrong, it makes the false steps appear really, really, really wrong. That happens. I was surprised by how dry the bonus content was, like people were biting their tongue.
I find the Hobbit films horribly frustrating. On the one hand, there’s a lot of good design work and they did a good job of differentiating the thirteen Dwarves, giving each one their own individual look and personality. And I liked some of the added stuff like Tauriel, Radagast, the Rock Giants, and the White Council.

But on the other hand, it didn’t hold together well as a story. There were too many CGI action sequences. And Alfrid... oh God... Alfrid.

It sounds to me like Jackson got thrown to the wolves and had to start filming before he was prepared, and filmed what he could and then had to tie the whole thing up in post, which is how we got so mant overwrought action pieces, and why so much of the film felt thin.
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Old 09-27-2018, 12:21 PM   #15018
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I think Jackson did an astonishing job considering how the ball was already rolling on the movies when he had to step and take over. I mean when you see how quick they had to put together a big action finale for Desolation of Smaug at the last minute, the end result is absolutely amazing. The sheer scale of those three movies, to dive in and be completely under prepared yet deliver something so massive and coherent with such excellent visual fx work (well I think it is at least) is one hell of an achievement IMO.
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I find the Hobbit films horribly frustrating. On the one hand, there’s a lot of good design work and they did a good job of differentiating the thirteen Dwarves, giving each one their own individual look and personality. And I liked some of the added stuff like Tauriel, Radagast, the Rock Giants, and the White Council.

But on the other hand, it didn’t hold together well as a story. There were too many CGI action sequences. And Alfrid... oh God... Alfrid.

It sounds to me like Jackson got thrown to the wolves and had to start filming before he was prepared, and filmed what he could and then had to tie the whole thing up in post, which is how we got so mant overwrought action pieces, and why so much of the film felt thin.
I haven't watched the blu-special features (because I did not like the movies enough to buy them), but, I do recall Jackson himself admitting that many days, they didn't even have a script for filming to the very last minute.

From what I remember even leading up to production actually starting was some situation along the lines of "Oh, we're gonna lose the rights to this SOON, so we need you to crank these out fast."

Which, the end product definitely feels like to me. Outside of the new elf/dwarf love story, I mostly had issues with the shoddy CGI vs practical makeup/sets of the LOTR trilogy. It all definitely felt like something that was much more rushed to meet a deadline.
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The Hobbit movies were awesome and I love the VFX and production design. The action sequences are epic too.
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