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Old 04-03-2025, 12:04 AM   #15941
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Hello. I own the Spain ''Middle Earth'' boxset (for the BD). The one that has both trilogies and all extras, INCLUDING theatrical cut extras. (It's only missing the Theatrical Cut movies in BD, but I can get them separately anytime, or I have them with the UHD set) and the UHD Middle Earth set (the one with the book style packaging). So.. basically I own every TLOR extra, not counting separate ones.

I am interested in adquiring The Lord of the Rings Theatrical and Extended extras in NTSC form.. it's a personal pet peeve of mine; since Warner doesn't bother or care to add the extras on Blu-ray discs.. PAL is stuck with some overscan that bothers me, and the NTSC copies do have the proper thing. Plus, the Theatrical in Spain for the first movie has the extras dubbed.

But there's a problem. Considering I also want Theatrical extras .. and extended extras.. I feel like I'm gonna have to buy the movies at least two or three times. Does anyone have a recommendation on what is the best to get, that has everything at once if possible, to avoid repetition? Any NTSC options that may be cheaper than the US, as well? If not, US it is..

For the Extended I do believe there were 5-disc amaray sets for each movie. That has the Costa Bates doc as well (I think).. but it's missing the Theatrical. Seems like the only way to get the theatrical extras as well is buying the Theatrical cuts..

I'm attaching FOTR Appendices PAL DVD vs itunes comparison. I was meant to to this between my Italian 10th anniversary extended trilogy appendices and my US/Canadian OG Extended DVD appendices. The DVD's are at my parents and I keep forgetting them.

I recently acquired the Microsoft 4k Extended Trilogy MA codes as I have the Theatrical 4K discs and simply don't want to invest into another remastered extended BD trilogy. It costed like £11 from reddit.

Coming back to comparing the Italian PAL DVDs and the itunes ATV4K, these are my findings. PAL DVD plays at 50Hz and itunes plays @ 60Hz. The jagged lines you see of the book scenes is present in both presentations but it more pronounced in the itunes. When you pause the PAL DVD, the jagged lines are not there.

By observing these pictures, I can say that the appendices/all LOTR extras were filmed with 25fps ?hanycams/camcorders and then converted to 30fps for the NTSC market back in the day. The only reason they haven't been ported over to a blu ray is because it will probably be in 50i format and that will cause problems with 60hz screens in NA. Any professional videophile, please provide input. I'm simply an amateur in this.

After years of owning the 4K theatrical discs and reading the reviews, I simply lost the interest of watching the discs. It's just now I've got the digital MA 4K streams that I took interest in watching the extended movies on itunes and theatrical 4ks.

4K itunes and the theatrical 4K BDs are soft in the live action scenes. The VFX scenes look nice and punchy but the live action scenes with minimal VFX has been badly affected. I think PJ's AI machine spat out this masterpiece in 2K HDR. If someone could shed light or attach a past comment as to how the trilogy was created by AI, highly appreciated.

My pet peeve would be for an AI machine to merge my Fullscreen and Anamorphic DVD's and create a quasi Zack Snyder IMAX DVD like Batman V Superman. That would be nice but I will hurt a lot of fans sentiments.

Lets see what PJ gives us on the 30th anniversary.
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The thing I noticed the most between PAL and NTSC versions of the extras is that PAL discs have slight overscan and NTSC are complete full screen. Plus, the theatrical extras on Fellowship are dubbed in Spanish (for some reason)..
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The thing I noticed the most between PAL and NTSC versions of the extras is that PAL discs have slight overscan and NTSC are complete full screen. Plus, the theatrical extras on Fellowship are dubbed in Spanish (for some reason)..
I didn't see any overseas with the Italian PAL Appendices DVD on my UB820. It's in English with Italian subs. I didn't see much of a screen difference between the itunes 60hz vs the 50hz DVD. It might have been the case with CRTs. TVs nowadays can do a dot for dot scan for PAL discs.


The versions I have are as follows.

1. NTSC FULLSCREEN theatrical Trilogy DVD
2. NTSC WIDERCREEN EXTENDED TRILOGY DVD
3. 10th anniversary Extended Trilogy BD
4. 4k theatrical Trilogy 4K blu ray
5. 4k Extended Trilogy 4k MA digital

Now let's throw all these into the fires of Mordor and create the master disc format to rule them all with DV/Atmos, Easter eggs, the works, etc. LOL
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