The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003) - Page 85 - Blu-ray Forum

Rik1138 · 06-02-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavrick

Is this a good enough reason for the films being on 2 discs?

Another thing he's forgetting with regards to audio:
DTS is 1.5MB, not 756kb (it _can_ be 756kb, but the studios all use 1.5MB). And that's just the core stream. There's lossless audio on it as well, which usually averages in 2-3MB range, at least (I've seen it peak over 7MB...). So, not only does that take up a HUGE amount of the bandwidth, it also physically ties up a lot of space on the disc. DTS-HD MA for an average 2-hour feature is usually somewhere around 3-4GB in size. And there's _two_ DTS lossless tracks on LOTR EE.

Bottom line though: They did try to make it fit on one disc, but the video quality did not meet their expectations, and the idea was scrapped. They didn't just arbitrarily make it two discs for the hell of it, they did it because it was the only way to make it look as good as Jackson wants it to look. Yeah, it comes with a built-in pee break, but trust me, you will appreciate the picture quality.

DaViD Boulet · 06-02-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rik1138

Um, VC-1 and AVC are both Mpeg-4, just different types.

I thought that AVC was just another name for MPEG4 but that VC-1 was Microsoft's sponsored CODEC that wasn't part of the MPEG family. (?)

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AVC is getting more popular these days since it seems VC-1 is no longer being developed, and 3D is AVC only it seems (VC-1 can do it I'm pretty sure, but no one is making an encoder that I know of)... The new AVC encoders are a little more 'idiot proof' as the built-in features get refined. Sort of like how DTS is winning over TrueHD. No real reason to use one over the other for the most part, but the DTS encoder is _much_ easier and faster to use/work with, and for a long time it was nearly impossible to do seamless branching with TrueHD... It's simply convenience that really helped it win out.

Interesting.

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FOTR EE is definitely a new master, and looks worlds better than the TE did... The color is slightly different (little less red), no idea of that's exactly how it's supposed to look or not, but unless you are comparing side-by-side, it's not noticeable (I only compared one scene- the 'waxy Gandalf beard', definitely not waxy any more...). I don't think discs have gotten out to reviewers yet, but I suspect they will be very soon...

can't wait!

Constitution 101 · 06-03-2011, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by radagast

Meanwhile, while those people are hoping the vaporware appears sometime in the future, the rest of us will enjoy actually watching it.

No kidding. Wait 3yrs for the next version? 4get that crap, those people will probably spend more at Starbucks during that time.

dcowboy7 · 06-03-2011, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bookcase

I just don't understand why someone would wait until the year 2014 to possibly own these on the off chance a better release might come along.

Im waiting for black friday 2011....hey you never know.

frogmort · 06-03-2011, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dcowboy7

Im waiting for black friday 2011....hey you never know.

I'm sure it will be cheaper by then, but I don't think I can wait that long. I have the TE blu-ray boxset in mint condition, and I'll be selling it and putting the money towards this set.

I just really hope that the Fellowship remaster is not just them adding edge enhancement and noise reduction.

Rik1138 · 06-03-2011, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by frogmort

I just really hope that the Fellowship remaster is not just them adding edge enhancement and noise reduction.

Heh, it's not, it's a new proper transfer.

frogmort · 06-03-2011, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rik1138

Heh, it's not, it's a new proper transfer.

Sources?

Rik1138 · 06-03-2011, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by frogmort

Sources?

Insider info? Shhh...

JamesKurtovich · 06-03-2011, 04:36 AM

So glad I decided not to pick up the theatricals.

Funny because I posted in the LOTR forum, laughing at those skipping the first releases. When it came time to order, I couldn't do it. I had to wait for the superior editions.

BillieCassin · 06-03-2011, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rik1138

Would have been nice if they just packed all the SD bonus stuff on one or two BDs instead of 9 DVDs though.

I just think it's funny- They release the movies with all the bonus content from the DVD set, and people complain... If they just released the movies by themselves, people would have complained...

They are just re-packaging the 9 DVDs of extra content from the DVD set, and people are complaining. If they put it all on a blu-ray disc, people would complain that it was only SD...

The studios really can't win, can they?

People may have complained that they were in SD, but as you say - you can't win, at least with everyone.

That said, totally skipping this release. I'm barely a casual fan of the films (only really seen them all the way through once). I refused to buy the incomplete versions, and this time around I'm skipping it because I simply don't need 9 DVDs of crap I don't want and wouldn't watch anyway.

If they had just been on a Blu or two, I may have bitten, but I'll just Netflix or borrow the films should I want to watch them again. I just refuse to spend that much for a big box of crap DVDs that I will never watch and don't want. It's odd that I might have paid it had they scrunched them onto a Blu or two, but I just can't justify buying this for the once or twice I'll probably watch them with all those extra useless discs.

Strange, but true.

Brightstar · 06-03-2011, 01:13 PM

Are we getting brand new extres just for this blu ray release ?

frogmort · 06-03-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by joliefan

Are we getting brand new extras just for this blu-ray release ?

It will have a newly remastered version of 'The Fellowship of the Ring', all of the original bonus stuff from the extended edition DVD set, plus the Costa Botes documentaries.

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=6045

Stinky-Dinkins · 06-04-2011, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rik1138

Um, VC-1 and AVC are both Mpeg-4, just different types.

Not true.

FrankV · 06-04-2011, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by frogmort

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Originally Posted by joliefan

Are we getting brand new extres just for this blu ray release ?

It will have a newly remastered version of 'The Fellowship of the Ring', all of the original bonus stuff from the extended edition DVD set, plus the Costa Botes documentaries.

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=6045

In other words, no.

radagast · 06-04-2011, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Not true.

Stinky - where are your screencaps and opinion about the PQ of the EE release?

Stinky-Dinkins · 06-04-2011, 03:41 PM

Still on preorder, I don't have any special way to get it early.

BillieCassin · 06-05-2011, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by joliefan

Are we getting brand new extres just for this blu ray release ?

No, they are literally putting the same extras DVDs into a Blu-ray set that came out already. They are so lazy they aren't even transferring the content to one or two Blu's, they are including NINE DVDS in this set.

Crazy.

nathan_393 · 06-05-2011, 02:48 AM

And here we go again...

No offense guys. I'm just figuring that because half of this thread so far has been whining about the 9 DVD's, then people might know by now. It's kind of like Star Wars only being the Special Editions.

Anyways - anybody seen any reviews yet for FOTR? (Or the whole set really, but that's the one I'm curious about).

nametag · 06-05-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by nathan_393

And here we go again...

No offense guys. I'm just figuring that because half of this thread so far has been whining about the 9 DVD's, then people might know by now.

Clearly somebody didn't know, that's why they asked and got a response...

radagast · 06-05-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

Still on preorder, I don't have any special way to get it early.

Where did you get them last time?

06-03-2011, 04:36 AM	#1689
JamesKurtovich Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Alaska Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:229 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:2	So glad I decided not to pick up the theatricals. Funny because I posted in the LOTR forum, laughing at those skipping the first releases. When it came time to order, I couldn't do it. I had to wait for the superior editions.

06-03-2011, 01:13 PM	#1691
Brightstar Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2011 Blu-ray collection:39 Blu-ray reviews:4	Are we getting brand new extres just for this blu ray release ?

06-04-2011, 03:41 PM	#1696
Stinky-Dinkins Power Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:USA Blu-ray collection:1	Still on preorder, I don't have any special way to get it early.

06-05-2011, 02:48 AM	#1698
nathan_393 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2010 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:274 DVD collection:11 Trading Score:2	And here we go again... No offense guys. I'm just figuring that because half of this thread so far has been whining about the 9 DVD's, then people might know by now. It's kind of like Star Wars only being the Special Editions. Anyways - anybody seen any reviews yet for FOTR? (Or the whole set really, but that's the one I'm curious about).

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