The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003) - Page 99 - Blu-ray Forum

frogmort · 06-10-2011, 05:21 PM

I don't understand the people on here telling everyone to shut up about this. The only reason that this forum exists, is to discuss The Lord of the Rings extended edition blu-ray. I am a very easy going person, and I'm not all that overly picky about most things, but I love these movies, as I'm sure most of you do too.

I think the detail in most of the screenshots is better than I ever expected, but the green tint is something I've never seen in these movies before, and it bothers me. Snow and clouds should be white, not green, I would think.

I didn't come in here armed for attack, and looking for something to complain about, I pretty much blindly assumed that this transfer would be awesome. If the green tint doesn't bother you, then that's great! I really wish it didn't bother me, but it does. All of you do actually see it though, don't you? I also realize that all of the complaining and moaning isn't going to change the transfers, but I do have an opinion of them.

Does anyone really know who posted these screenshots, and how true to the source they really are? I don't think so, and I really hope that the blu-rays are going to make us all very, very happy.

radagast · 06-10-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

I seriously think there would be complaints if these movies were packaged with freshly minted $100 bills. I for one am just happy these films are coming to blu-ray...

They may not be perfect, but I'm certainly not going to take screenshots on the internet as reference for whether I will like it or not. I'm still going to buy these day 1, and I'm going to enjoy the $hit out of them every time I watch them...

Why don't we all wait and see the review on this site before anyone soils themselves?

threefiftyrocket · 06-10-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

Thanks for the clarification, mang.

Sorry, I didn't mean to go off and start saying inaccurate stuff, I just wanted to make sure whoever said that these were new scans realizes that they are NOT... PJ made some changes and alterations to the picture when he added is Visual Effects, so there are some things that will never look better than they do. And to rescan everything means WB would have to spend a TON of money on recreating all of the visual effects in the movie.

I guess thats what I was interpreting as a "new master" was rescanning everything into a new digital file, and by saying they used the "original master" I meant the original digital files. So a lot of the color correcting that PJ did on this film in post production will be absent here. We will get an updated release once The Hobbit is finished, and he has time to work on these films. PJ said he has a bunch of other material that he wants to include in the release, but with The Hobbit, he does not have time now.

KubrickFan · 06-10-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by frogmort

I don't understand the people on here telling everyone to shut up about this. The only reason that this forum exists, is to discuss The Lord of the Rings extended edition blu-ray. I am a very easy going person, and I'm not all that overly picky about most things, but I love these movies, as I'm sure most of you do too.

I think the detail in most of the screenshots is better than I ever expected, but the green tint is something I've never seen in these movies before, and it bothers me. Snow and clouds should be white, not green, I would think.

I didn't come in here armed for attack, and looking for something to complain about, I pretty much blindly assumed that this transfer would be awesome. If the green tint doesn't bother you, then that's great! I really wish it didn't bother me, but it does. All of you do actually see it though, don't you? I also realize that all of the complaining and moaning isn't going to change the transfers, but I do have an opinion of them.

Does anyone really know who posted these screenshots, and how true to the source they really are? I don't think so, and I really hope that the blu-rays are going to make us all very, very happy.

I think people tell others to be quiet because, first of all, the Blu-rays haven't even been released, or any reviews has been published. The guy who posted the shots supposedly found a Blu-ray rip, but who's to say the colors are accurate to what's on the disc? Second, the whole conjecture that it's either not a new master/a new master without PJ's approval/a conspiracy theory is just pointless.

Also, we've seen this type of nonsense where the screenshots turned out to be wrong several times. So let's just wait for reviews to be released, and then everyone can throw hyperbole at everything, if they want. Preferably not, obviously, but some people can't be helped.

Strevlac · 06-10-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bookcase

People are sucking all the joy out of this release.

And that's really the crux of the matter for you isn't it? Nevermind that the shots we are seeing have an ugly green pall cast over the entire image. Just be happy with what you get and post as many

as we can.

Stinky-Dinkins · 06-10-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mrpink134

Todd is good at complaining about theses movies, he complained so much on the last ones he got a vacation from the forums. Pay him no mind he will never be happy with these releases.

Then again you said they looked fantastic and didn't have any DNR problems.

frogmort · 06-10-2011, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

Why don't we all wait and see the review on this site before anyone soils themselves?

OOPS! Too late.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-10-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickFan

The guy who posted the shots supposedly found a Blu-ray rip, but who's to say the colors are accurate to what's on the disc?

It must be a private rip job, because all of my sources don't turn up a Blu-ray rip of the EE.

radagast · 06-10-2011, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mredman

some people actually complain about these here. I am baffled that really leads me to think no matter what they had done they would have complained.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58252
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58250
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58223
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58228
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58229
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58226

I mean the detail in these in just incredible

Go back and read the posts. It isn't the detail they are complaining about.

Grand Bob · 06-10-2011, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

Why don't we all wait and see the review on this site before anyone soils themselves?

Good advice, we'll just have to wait and see. I plan on enjoying this release, as it is something for which I have waited a long time. Regarding the screenshots, I am pleased by the extra detail, but I would be lying if I said the heavy green tint was not a distraction. I can't imagine that Jackson would be happy looking at green snow either - unless he is Irish - but it is what it is. We'll just have to live with it.

42041 · 06-10-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

It must be a private rip job, because all of my sources don't turn up a Blu-ray rip of the EE.

You need better sources

The rips have been available on various trackers since Wednesday night.

KrugerIndustrial · 06-10-2011, 05:44 PM

Oh dear...yes there is some green tint definitely. It has been said before multiple times. Let's just wait and see how it'll turn out okay? No need to complain about it on every single post. Where are all the slipcover nuts when they're needed?

radagast · 06-10-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 42041

You need better sources

The rips have been available on various trackers since Wednesday night.

If these screenshots are based on rips on the internet, then I am going out on a limb and predicting that they will not be representative of what we will get on the 28th.

Someone I met several months ago did a Blu-ray rip. I asked for a copy because I wanted to see how well it turned out. It was a rip of the Inception BD. I compared it to my BD copy of Inception and it was definitely inferior.

Andrewtst · 06-10-2011, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

It must be a private rip job, because all of my sources don't turn up a Blu-ray rip of the EE.

The rip is on the net already, your sources not up to date enough yet

frezaina · 06-10-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

If these screenshots are based on rips on the internet, then I am going out on a limb and predicting that they will not be representative of what we will get on the 28th.

Someone I met several months ago did a Blu-ray rip. I asked for a copy because I wanted to see how well it turned out. It was a rip of the Inception BD. I compared it to my BD copy of Inception and it was definitely inferior.

well a lot of times that is true but i guarantee you that this 1080p rip that is "in the wild" is very accurare and true to the souce and so represents the final product. what you have been seeing in the screenshots is what you're gonna get!

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-10-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrewtst

The rip is on the net already, your sources not up to date enough.

It's not a scene release, therefore it's meaningless to me and inferior. The bit rate for one I found at 720p is at a measly 2000kbps and the file size is 4gb. The 1080p rip will probably look even worse.

42041 · 06-10-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

If these screenshots are based on rips on the internet, then I am going out on a limb and predicting that they will not be representative of what we will get on the 28th.

Someone I met several months ago did a Blu-ray rip. I asked for a copy because I wanted to see how well it turned out. It was a rip of the Inception BD. I compared it to my BD copy of Inception and it was definitely inferior.

It would be inferior of course, since you're heavily compressing an already heavily compressed source, but it'd be hard to accidentally introduce a color shift like this. I suppose it's possible if their video card drivers are applying some kind of screwy color correction, but pretty unlikely.

frezaina · 06-10-2011, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

It's not a scene release, therefore it's meaningless to me and inferior. The bit rate for one I found at 720p is at a measly 2000kbps and the file size is 4gb. The 1080p rip will probably look even worse.

the release i have is a p2p release, which is miles ahead of the scene quality. Well wait until the 28 and you'll see for yourself.

threefiftyrocket · 06-10-2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Good advice, we'll just have to wait and see. I plan on enjoying this release, as it is something for which I have waited a long time. Regarding the screenshots, I am pleased by the extra detail, but I would be lying if I said the heavy green tint was not a distraction. I can't imagine that Jackson would be happy looking at green snow either - unless he is Irish - but it is what it is. We'll just have to live with it.

I never said I was going to soil myself, I just said that I would enjoy the $hit out of this release as it is. Whether its got a color issue or not, I don't care. I'm going to buy it regardless because it looks a hell of a lot better than my EE DVD's. I'm pretty anxious to retire those badboys to bookends.

And one of these days, good ol PJ will have the time to redo these right, so they look absolutely pristine. But until then, which is a couple years away, I'm going to really enjoy the set I buy in a couple weeks.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-10-2011, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by frezaina

the release i have is a p2p release, which is miles ahead of the scene quality. Well wait until the 28 and you'll see for yourself.

What's the file size and average bit rate?

06-10-2011, 05:21 PM	#1961
frogmort Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Frogmorton Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:27	I don't understand the people on here telling everyone to shut up about this. The only reason that this forum exists, is to discuss The Lord of the Rings extended edition blu-ray. I am a very easy going person, and I'm not all that overly picky about most things, but I love these movies, as I'm sure most of you do too. I think the detail in most of the screenshots is better than I ever expected, but the green tint is something I've never seen in these movies before, and it bothers me. Snow and clouds should be white, not green, I would think. I didn't come in here armed for attack, and looking for something to complain about, I pretty much blindly assumed that this transfer would be awesome. If the green tint doesn't bother you, then that's great! I really wish it didn't bother me, but it does. All of you do actually see it though, don't you? I also realize that all of the complaining and moaning isn't going to change the transfers, but I do have an opinion of them. Does anyone really know who posted these screenshots, and how true to the source they really are? I don't think so, and I really hope that the blu-rays are going to make us all very, very happy.

06-10-2011, 05:44 PM	#1972
KrugerIndustrial Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 4K collection:200 Blu-ray collection:1361 DVD collection:34 Trading Score:16	Oh dear...yes there is some green tint definitely. It has been said before multiple times. Let's just wait and see how it'll turn out okay? No need to complain about it on every single post. Where are all the slipcover nuts when they're needed?

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