Gemini Man 4K UHD 60fps (2019) - Page 4 - Blu-ray Forum

JEArgumedo · 10-09-2019, 01:39 AM

Happen to be close to a 120fps showing and I've got my ticket. Can't wait to check it out.

docmoejones · 10-09-2019, 02:17 AM

didn't like the trailers, didn't like HFR of Billy Lynn. I generally like Ang Lee and Will Smith...still a coin toss on seeing 3D HFR for me, and I still haven't tossed the damn coin yet.

bradnoyes · 10-09-2019, 07:07 PM

I'm going to try to see this with my wife but we will be avoiding HFR like the plague. If the UHD is 60fps it will have to be a pass for me.

Penton-Man · 10-10-2019, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

as I said, the list provided is not comprehensive (nor was meant to be), e.g. - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...e#post16911877

so, best check with your local theater(s) directly.

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Originally Posted by DapperDanMan

As far as I can tell, AMC is not differentiating between 60fps and 120fps showings, calling both 3D+HFR.

If you don’t believe that Puente Hills is showing the 3D 120fps iteration in their Dolby theatre, then I suggest you call (626) – 810- 7949 and speak to the manager Britney M. for confirmation. 3D+HFR will be 60fps in their IMAX theatre.

tcripe · 10-10-2019, 06:03 PM

Seeing this in HDR 3D tmrw night. Should be an interesting experience.

DapperDanMan · 10-10-2019, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

If you don’t believe that Puente Hills is showing the 3D 120fps iteration in their Dolby theatre, then I suggest you call (626) – 810- 7949 and speak to the manager Britney M. for confirmation. 3D+HFR will be 60fps in their IMAX theatre.

Hey dude, I believe you. Didn't mean to offend.

I actually think we're on the same page.

I was just trying to emphasize that it's hard to tell from AMC's website whether a show is 60fps or 120fps. Therefore, I agree with you that if the theater is not on that list, the best bet is to call directly. And probably talk to a manager or supervisor who is aware of the differences.

imsounoriginal · 10-11-2019, 01:07 PM

Saw it in 60fps HFR and it looked great. The 3D is pretty mild aside from the action sequences, so I doubt I'll miss it much. But I don't see myself running out to buy this day one, if at all. The action sequences and de-aging tech are really cool but beyond that, there isn't much of a movie here.

weberrygt · 10-11-2019, 01:12 PM

I do not anything about the technical aspects of this movie, but the discussion about how it was made and how it will look is enough to make me interested.

Is there a 'cliff notes' version for me to read about fps HFR or similar topics so at least have some clue what is going on? (Yes, I can google it, but I thought there might be some good recommendations from the experts.)

chip75 · 10-11-2019, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by weberrygt

I do not anything about the technical aspects of this movie, but the discussion about how it was made and how it will look is enough to make me interested.

Is there a 'cliff notes' version for me to read about fps HFR or similar topics so at least have some clue what is going on? (Yes, I can google it, but I thought there might be some good recommendations from the experts.)

Sorry to be pedantic, but it's Cliff's Notes (now CliffsNotes) not "Cliff Notes".

Generally speaking at 24fps fast moving objects have more motion-blur than stationary ones, as you increase the frame rate you decrease the motion blur and the video becomes more realistic. The downside is that some purists actually prefer the look of film over HFR as (HFR) is often comparable to Soap Opera Effect. It becomes more televisual than traditionally cinematic.

Reviews of Gemini Man have compared it to a nature documentary action thriller.

Some people like HFR some don't. I think there are some decent videos with regards to The Hobbit:

weberrygt · 10-11-2019, 06:33 PM

Awesome, thanks!! (and I have apparently been saying it wrong for the past 20+ years, which was maybe all of 3 times haha). Cliff's Notes just doesn't roll of the tongue as nicely...

Colson · 10-11-2019, 06:49 PM

I got super lucky, my primary theater is showing this in 3D 120fps (2K, though).

https://www.polygon.com/2019/10/8/20...movie-theaters

weberrygt · 10-11-2019, 06:51 PM

That was very interesting. Thanks again for sharing. I loved his one line about audiences seeing the Hobbit in 48 fps... "It was as if a hole was cut into the wall and people were looking into the real world." And that was how long ago? Wow.

How common is HFR nowadays? I remember hearing about it for Billy Lynn and now with Gemini Man. Is it becoming more common, or should I say more widely accessible and thus used by filmmakers? This is very cool!

weberrygt · 10-11-2019, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Colson

I got super lucky, my primary theater is showing this in 3D 120fps (2K, though).

https://www.polygon.com/2019/10/8/20...movie-theaters

120? That will be like the image being sent directly to your brain!

fighthefutureofhd · 10-11-2019, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Colson

I got super lucky, my primary theater is showing this in 3D 120fps (2K, though).

https://www.polygon.com/2019/10/8/20...movie-theaters

I got super lucky once. Then... Well, not a good story to tell.

fighthefutureofhd · 10-11-2019, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by weberrygt

120? That will be like the image being sent directly to your brain!

brainofj72 · 10-11-2019, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by weberrygt

That was very interesting. Thanks again for sharing. I loved his one line about audiences seeing the Hobbit in 48 fps... "It was as if a hole was cut into the wall and people were looking into the real world." And that was how long ago? Wow.

How common is HFR nowadays? I remember hearing about it for Billy Lynn and now with Gemini Man. Is it becoming more common, or should I say more widely accessible and thus used by filmmakers? This is very cool!

Unfortunately, it kinda seems like Ang Lee is the only major filmmaker who has embraced it right now.

Is James Cameron planning on using it for his new Avatar movies? If there’s anyone who could push the tech successfully, it’d be him.

Fang Zei · 10-11-2019, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brainofj72

Unfortunately, it kinda seems like Ang Lee is the only major filmmaker who has embraced it right now.

Is James Cameron planning on using it for his new Avatar movies? If there’s anyone who could push the tech successfully, it’d be him.

IIRC, what he was talking about doing for the sequels was having the hfr version change framerates depending on the scene. So the slower dramatic scenes would be 24 but the fast action would be 48 or 60 or 120.

Penton-Man · 10-13-2019, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DapperDanMan

Hey dude, I believe you. Didn't mean to offend.

I actually think we're on the same page.

I was just trying to emphasize that it's hard to tell from AMC's website whether a show is 60fps or 120fps. Therefore, I agree with you that if the theater is not on that list, the best bet is to call directly. And probably talk to a manager or supervisor who is aware of the differences.

No problem

….sleep deprived that day and rather impatient was I. And I agree with you that the local theatres showing the movie could provide more specific clarification as to the actual frame rate in their online showings.

leaveheronread · 10-14-2019, 03:41 AM

Movie was terrific, can't wait to own the 4k and with those specs

Colson · 10-14-2019, 06:27 PM

I got to see this in 3D 120fps, and it was glorious. The movie itself was all right, nothing amazing, but it was a technical showcase, for sure. Seriously awesome stuff. The high framerate was so effective for the action sequences that I wish every action film was shot that way - it really did lend a level of clarity to the whole affair. I think I remember someone commenting that it looked as if the screen were a giant hole in the wall, and I'd like to echo that sentiment. Everything looked very real.

Speaking of things that looked very real, young Will Smith was definitely the most impressive CGI human I've seen yet - much better than Tarkin, for example. There was only really one scene where he looked totally off (

[Show spoiler]

), but other than that I would say it was 95% convincing most of the time and 100% convincing often. Really incredible stuff, and I applaud the team that worked on it.

Part of me hopes they add a 12-fps spec to 4K Blu-ray by the time this is released, but either way, I hope we at least get a 60fps version, because WOW.

10-14-2019, 03:41 AM	#79
leaveheronread New Member Member since:Oct 2019	yes Movie was terrific, can't wait to own the 4k and with those specs

10-09-2019, 01:39 AM	#61
JEArgumedo Senior Member Member since:Sep 2013 Trading Score:1	Happen to be close to a 120fps showing and I've got my ticket. Can't wait to check it out.

10-09-2019, 02:17 AM	#62
docmoejones Active Member Member since:Jun 2018 Location:Virginia 4K collection:206 Blu-ray collection:246 Trading Score:2	didn't like the trailers, didn't like HFR of Billy Lynn. I generally like Ang Lee and Will Smith...still a coin toss on seeing 3D HFR for me, and I still haven't tossed the damn coin yet.

10-09-2019, 07:07 PM	#63
bradnoyes Blu-ray Knight Member since:Dec 2016 4K collection:775 Blu-ray collection:816 Trading Score:255	I'm going to try to see this with my wife but we will be avoiding HFR like the plague. If the UHD is 60fps it will have to be a pass for me.

10-10-2019, 06:03 PM	#65
tcripe Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2018 Location:Seattle	Seeing this in HDR 3D tmrw night. Should be an interesting experience.

10-11-2019, 01:07 PM	#67
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:946 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	Saw it in 60fps HFR and it looked great. The 3D is pretty mild aside from the action sequences, so I doubt I'll miss it much. But I don't see myself running out to buy this day one, if at all. The action sequences and de-aging tech are really cool but beyond that, there isn't much of a movie here.

10-11-2019, 01:12 PM	#68
weberrygt Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2013	I do not anything about the technical aspects of this movie, but the discussion about how it was made and how it will look is enough to make me interested. Is there a 'cliff notes' version for me to read about fps HFR or similar topics so at least have some clue what is going on? (Yes, I can google it, but I thought there might be some good recommendations from the experts.)

10-11-2019, 06:33 PM	#70
weberrygt Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2013	Awesome, thanks!! (and I have apparently been saying it wrong for the past 20+ years, which was maybe all of 3 times haha). Cliff's Notes just doesn't roll of the tongue as nicely...

10-11-2019, 06:49 PM	#71
Colson Power Member Member since:Apr 2016 4K collection:86 Blu-ray collection:407 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:40	I got super lucky, my primary theater is showing this in 3D 120fps (2K, though). https://www.polygon.com/2019/10/8/20...movie-theaters

10-11-2019, 06:51 PM	#72
weberrygt Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2013	That was very interesting. Thanks again for sharing. I loved his one line about audiences seeing the Hobbit in 48 fps... "It was as if a hole was cut into the wall and people were looking into the real world." And that was how long ago? Wow. How common is HFR nowadays? I remember hearing about it for Billy Lynn and now with Gemini Man. Is it becoming more common, or should I say more widely accessible and thus used by filmmakers? This is very cool!

10-14-2019, 06:27 PM	#80
Colson Power Member Member since:Apr 2016 4K collection:86 Blu-ray collection:407 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:40	I got to see this in 3D 120fps, and it was glorious. The movie itself was all right, nothing amazing, but it was a technical showcase, for sure. Seriously awesome stuff. The high framerate was so effective for the action sequences that I wish every action film was shot that way - it really did lend a level of clarity to the whole affair. I think I remember someone commenting that it looked as if the screen were a giant hole in the wall, and I'd like to echo that sentiment. Everything looked very real. Speaking of things that looked very real, young Will Smith was definitely the most impressive CGI human I've seen yet - much better than Tarkin, for example. There was only really one scene where he looked totally off ( [Show spoiler] ), but other than that I would say it was 95% convincing most of the time and 100% convincing often. Really incredible stuff, and I applaud the team that worked on it. Part of me hopes they add a 12-fps spec to 4K Blu-ray by the time this is released, but either way, I hope we at least get a 60fps version, because WOW.

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