Gemini Man 4K UHD 60fps (2019)

[emailking]

I thought the CI was really good! Anyway, my steelbook 4K/3D combo from Amazon Germany came so I will plan to watch this on my vacation. Looking forward to checking out the 60 fps. I streamed HD before but I liked it enough that I wanted to buy it.

[Phreakuency]

Watched this today.

Absolutely incredible image quality. The extra frames make everything crystal clear. This is as good, if not better than any of the 400 UHD discs I've watched. What a stunner!

I love the 60fps. Like 3D, I wouldn't want it with every movie but it's great that it's trying something different, giving a unique look and overall experience. I don't and never have bought the soap opera talk. Once you're used to it, it quickly looks like the norm and is beautiful to watch.

I hope more filmmakers experiment with high frame rates.

The CG was distractingly floaty at times, which took away the believability of the stunts and the younger Will Smith but the closeup, dialog scenes were amazing.

Visually, the film has almost everything to show off a 4K disc. Gorgeous night scenes with realistically lit locations, none of the fake colour filters over a daytime set. Beautiful looking beaches, water, colourful streets and the most detailed and sharp looking textures on skin and fabric I've ever seen.

And credit to the makeup team for not over doing it. With such detail on display it would be obvious and a bad look to see caked on makeup in the actors but that was never the case whatsover.

And my god, the scene with the rocket launcher, chain gun and following shootout was just insane in 60fps.

What a visual masterpiece.

[TXMoviebuff77]

Originally Posted by Phreakuency

Watched this today.

Absolutely incredible image quality. The extra frames make everything crystal clear. This is as good, if not better than any of the 400 UHD discs I've watched. What a stunner!

I love the 60fps. Like 3D, I wouldn't want it with every movie but it's great that it's trying something different, giving a unique look and overall experience. I don't and never have bought the soap opera talk. Once you're used to it, it quickly looks like the norm and is beautiful to watch.

I hope more filmmakers experiment with high frame rates.

The CG was distractingly floaty at times, which took away the believability of the stunts and the younger Will Smith but the closeup, dialog scenes were amazing.

Visually, the film has almost everything to show off a 4K disc. Gorgeous night scenes with realistically lit locations, none of the fake colour filters over a daytime set. Beautiful looking beaches, water, colourful streets and the most detailed and sharp looking textures on skin and fabric I've ever seen.

And credit to the makeup team for not over doing it. With such detail on display it would be obvious and a bad look to see caked on makeup in the actors but that was never the case whatsover.

And my god, the scene with the rocket launcher, chain gun and following shootout was just insane in 60fps.

What a visual masterpiece.

Spot on description.

[MarshallFaulk28]

Originally Posted by Phreakuency

Watched this today.

Absolutely incredible image quality. The extra frames make everything crystal clear. This is as good, if not better than any of the 400 UHD discs I've watched. What a stunner!

I love the 60fps. Like 3D, I wouldn't want it with every movie but it's great that it's trying something different, giving a unique look and overall experience. I don't and never have bought the soap opera talk. Once you're used to it, it quickly looks like the norm and is beautiful to watch.

I hope more filmmakers experiment with high frame rates.

The CG was distractingly floaty at times, which took away the believability of the stunts and the younger Will Smith but the closeup, dialog scenes were amazing.

Visually, the film has almost everything to show off a 4K disc. Gorgeous night scenes with realistically lit locations, none of the fake colour filters over a daytime set. Beautiful looking beaches, water, colourful streets and the most detailed and sharp looking textures on skin and fabric I've ever seen.

And credit to the makeup team for not over doing it. With such detail on display it would be obvious and a bad look to see caked on makeup in the actors but that was never the case whatsover.

And my god, the scene with the rocket launcher, chain gun and following shootout was just insane in 60fps.

What a visual masterpiece.

I watched yesterday as well. I couldn't agree more with every point you've made. I'm curious to watch in 3D too, but the 4K HFR version is stunning. I totally enjoyed the movie as well. I read nothing about the story in advance, so I went in fresh. It's a movie I can totally watch again.

[Eschenpod]

Count me in as another big fan of this movie and the HFR technology.
Stunning demo disk.

[jgcarugati]

Has anyone had issues playing this disc?

I’ve got LG OLED C8 and a Sony UBPX700.

The disc starts to play, I choose my language, it tells me this is a 4K movie and then my signal goes out. I press PLAY and then the Rights Reserved page comes up...then it loses signal again and I can’t watch anything.

Anyone know what this might be? Thanks!

[wildphantom]

Originally Posted by jgcarugati

Has anyone had issues playing this disc?

I’ve got LG OLED C8 and a Sony UBPX700.

The disc starts to play, I choose my language, it tells me this is a 4K movie and then my signal goes out. I press PLAY and then the Rights Reserved page comes up...then it loses signal again and I can’t watch anything.

Anyone know what this might be? Thanks!

Hmmm, not sure. Possibly your HDMI cable?

[wildphantom]

I too was knocked out by a ton of the disc in HFR.

Can’t say it looked like a ‘film’ but that’s kind of the point as it’s not what we’re conditioned to. I felt the production was lit and produced for a 24fps movie, but the HFR just exposed how fake that all actually is. It’s like you’re on set seeing them film it.
Having said that, the natural scenes with no effects or assisted lighting etc (most of the daylight scenes) really do look astonishing.

Not how I want my movies to look if I’m honest - but as an experiment and a demo disc this is pretty essential stuff.

[jgcarugati]

Originally Posted by wildphantom

Hmmm, not sure. Possibly your HDMI cable?

Possibly, but I’m now watching Pacific Rim 4K and it’s working like a charm.

Am I supposed to be setting up TV a certain way and it’s not letting it play back?

[steelman1991]

Originally Posted by jgcarugati

Possibly, but I’m now watching Pacific Rim 4K and it’s working like a charm.

Am I supposed to be setting up TV a certain way and it’s not letting it play back?

4K60fps requires a suitable cable to transmit the signal at 18gbs. Presume you're watching Pacific Rim 4K at 23.976fps and therefore requires less bandwidth and can be transmitted along cables that have less bandwidth.

Check for a "Premium Certified" cable - you don't have to spend a load of money on it Monoprice do a range of cables at reasonable prices.

Menu's etc may be encoded at and play at a rate less than 4k60fps- hence why you see them, but when you attempt to play the actual film, the cable doesn't have the bandwidth and chokes.

[jgcarugati]

Originally Posted by steelman1991

4K60fps requires a suitable cable to transmit the signal at 18gbs. Presume you're watching Pacific Rim 4K at 23.976fps and therefore requires less bandwidth and can be transmitted along cables that have less bandwidth.

Check for a "Premium Certified" cable - you don't have to spend a load of money on it Monoprice do a range of cables at reasonable prices.

Menu's etc may be encoded at and play at a rate less than 4k60fps- hence why you see them, but when you attempt to play the actual film, the cable doesn't have the bandwidth and chokes.

Well now I feel dumb, I’ve just been using my old Blu Ray hdmi cable with my 4K player. With one of these premium certified cables, will all of my 4K play a bit better now?

Thinking of buying iBirdie... thank you for this info!!

[steelman1991]

Originally Posted by jgcarugati

Well now I feel dumb, I’ve just been using my old Blu Ray hdmi cable with my 4K player. With one of these premium certified cables, will all of my 4K play a bit better now?

Thinking of buying iBirdie... thank you for this info!!

All your 4K titles won't play any better - they will just play. Cables either work or they don't.

I don't have much experience of "iBirdie" cables but providing their cables carry the certified premium label they should be fine.

I'm not saying that cables that don't carry the certification won't work, but their claims to do so, carry much less weight.

Have a look here https://hdmi.org/spec/premiumcable

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Eschenpod

Count me in as another big fan of this movie and the HFR technology.
Stunning demo disk.

Well said and I am still waiting for 28 Days Later UHD lol.

[aiman04]

LG C9 has HDMI 2.1 that supports 4k at 120Hz. This was shot at 120 fps, I wonder how it will look at that frame rate. Even at 60 fps it already looks stunning, just looking out the window (that has been said too many times but this time it's true).

Originally Posted by jgcarugati

Well now I feel dumb, I’ve just been using my old Blu Ray hdmi cable with my 4K player. With one of these premium certified cables, will all of my 4K play a bit better now?

Thinking of buying iBirdie... thank you for this info!!

If it's from your old blu-ray player then it's likely built for HDMI 1.4 specs. Look for HDMI 2.0 or if it says 18Gbps and you should be good to go.

[jgcarugati]

Originally Posted by aiman04

LG C9 has HDMI 2.1 that supports 4k at 120Hz. This was shot at 120 fps, I wonder how it will look at that frame rate. Even at 60 fps it already looks stunning, just looking out the window (that has been said too many times but this time it's true).



If it's from your old blu-ray player then it's likely built for HDMI 1.4 specs. Look for HDMI 2.0 or if it says 18Gbps and you should be good to go.

And that did it! I needed a new cable and now I'm watching it full steam ahead!

[apac69]

My copy of this arrived today, finally, with a slip from hmv online. I'm hoping my cables are good enough now after reading a few comments here

[thepotentone]

I just never got around to picking this up.

If it drops to $10.00 or so then maybe, but the story just left me cold as the blood running through Junior.

[Archivy]

I watched this on 4K UHD BD last night. It's quite simply the best picture quality for a home video release of a feature film I've ever seen. Not that I've seen everything, mind you, but this one has it all. Spatial resolution, temporal resolution, lifelike coloration, and those specular highlights in the catacombs...my goodness. "Blinding" is right. I think that might've been the first time I've actually squinted watching a movie at home on my Sony 900F.

I got used to the HFR after two or three minutes. What's interesting is that the HFR kind of strips away all the movie star apparatus from the actors. It made Will Smith look like a regular guy on the street rather than a Hollywood star. It was a neat effect in that regard. That is to say, the picture quality is so lifelike that the actors themselves look real lifelike rather than movie star-like. I was looking at Clive Owen's normality and chuckling that at one point during his Croupier days I thought he would have been a good James Bond, looks-wise. Here he looks like an average dude. So that was the biggest surprise (and thus takeaway) from the HFR for me.

Really enjoyed the VFX progression featurette, but it's far too short. Still, it's amazing how much CGI is employed in action scenes these days. The car(s) were CGI? Mind = blown. I know they've been doing that for a while (I think back to Bad Boys II's CGI cars during the signature highway car chase all those years ago), but it's still always impressive to re-learn. The best effects really are those that you don't realize are effects to begin with.

It's just a shame, then, that the film itself is so nondescript and uninvolving, a bland made-for-TV movie spruced up with big budget effects, HFR, and Will Smith. It is completely understandable that the screenplay floated around Hollywood for a long time, struggling to find a taker.

[Archivy]

Originally Posted by Phreakuency

Watched this today.

Absolutely incredible image quality. The extra frames make everything crystal clear. This is as good, if not better than any of the 400 UHD discs I've watched. What a stunner!

I love the 60fps. Like 3D, I wouldn't want it with every movie but it's great that it's trying something different, giving a unique look and overall experience. I don't and never have bought the soap opera talk. Once you're used to it, it quickly looks like the norm and is beautiful to watch.

I hope more filmmakers experiment with high frame rates.

The CG was distractingly floaty at times, which took away the believability of the stunts and the younger Will Smith but the closeup, dialog scenes were amazing.

Visually, the film has almost everything to show off a 4K disc. Gorgeous night scenes with realistically lit locations, none of the fake colour filters over a daytime set. Beautiful looking beaches, water, colourful streets and the most detailed and sharp looking textures on skin and fabric I've ever seen.

And credit to the makeup team for not over doing it. With such detail on display it would be obvious and a bad look to see caked on makeup in the actors but that was never the case whatsover.

And my god, the scene with the rocket launcher, chain gun and following shootout was just insane in 60fps.

What a visual masterpiece.

I agree with most of this. Good post.

[jeffm2016]

Is the 3d from germany the only 3d? Will it playback in all regions? Will all region 3d disks be fake if not?