Poll: DC vs. Marvel - Page 4 - Blu-ray Forum

Beast · 07-31-2008, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonbird

Ahem.

To answer the OP's questions: 1) Tie. 2) Marvel.

The Dark Knight was great. Superman was great. That's about it so far. There will be much more on the DC front. They are turning the ship around. But Marvel Studios so far has made two movies. Both were outstanding. Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk. They also have a great plan.

All of DC's movies are made by their parent company WB. I don't think DC has had a lot of input in their past movies. From what I've read that's going to change.

As far as the characters go. Marvel might have the edge because they can use the excuse of 'mutants' for any super being they don't have yet. There's an equal on both sides. If DC has a great hero, Marvel will have one very similar. If Marvel has a great one, DC will come up with one similar (For every Green Arrow, there's a Hawkeye). This may not be quite so with the principles as it is for the B listers. Marvel probably has more A listers known by John Q Public than DC. But DC's characters are more Iconic.

We'll see if DC actually gets more say. And if anything really changes. Or if they continue to be jerked around by WB so that nothing but movies featuring Batman and Superman get made. Look at Wonder Woman, things were kicking fine and then WB was dragging their feet, ticked off Whedon, and he left. It's gonna keep happening cause WB gets first pass on any DC movie. And they're not going to pass, they'd rather see the film die.

Having more Iconic characters actually works against them. If you think about it. They're less free to really play with the characters because they're not allowed to grow beyond the little box that they're placed in. Superman changes very little, and any attempt to change is met with a royal freakout from the fanbase. Hell, look at Captan America. They killed him and now have Bucky/Winter Soldier as the new Captain America.

Kal-El27 · 07-31-2008, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Beast

Lightspeed wasn't Marvel. It was a Stan Lee Production.

Ok then how about Fantastic Four (Roger Corman Version),Howard the Duck,and of course lets not forget Generation X

GreenScar · 07-31-2008, 04:21 AM

We'll have to wait and see. I know that they have some pretty good Ideas coming up (SuperMax). And Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were really good. Personally I thought both Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk were better comic book movies.

BirdManJr · 07-31-2008, 04:21 AM

Doomsday killed superman.
And would destroy any of the marvel characters!
mwhahahahaha

GreenScar · 07-31-2008, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Kal-El27

Ok then how about Fantastic Four (Roger Corman Version),Howard the Duck,and of course lets not forget Generation X

You need to chill a bit. None of those movies were made by Marvel. They were made by studios who bought the rights to the characters. Marvel has made two movies. Two.

Beast · 07-31-2008, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Canada

DC has the 2 most iconic superheroes of all time the light (Superman) The Dark Knight (Batman).

Plus on the whole DC makes better movies
Good DC movies: Superman and Superman 2, Batman Begins and the Dark Knight (the best super hero movie ever)

Bad DC movies: Batman and Robin, Superman III, IV

Good Marvel Spiderman 2, X Men, X2
Bad Marvel: Fantastic 4 both, and The Punisher.

Over all the winner is: DC

DC does not make better movies. They barely even can get movies off the ground. Superman Retreads was horrible and almost killed the possibility of a follow-up Superman film. Seems you left a lot of titles off your list.

What about Blade, the movie that rekindled the Superhero Franchise?
Where's Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2? Hell, even Spider-Man 3 wasn't awful.
You even left Iron Man and Incredible Hulk off your list. Biased much?

I for one enjoyed both of the Fantastic Four movies a hell of a lot more than Batman Begins or Superman Retreads. Batman Begins was slow and boring, give me Burton's rich Batman anyday.

Beast · 07-31-2008, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kal-El27

Ok then how about Fantastic Four (Roger Corman Version),Howard the Duck,and of course lets not forget Generation X

The Roger Corman FF movie was only made because Corman's studios threw it together in order to try to extend their licensing of the characters. It was never meant to be released in any way, shape, or form.

Howard the Duck is still a huge cult classic. Why do you think you see people asking for it to be released on DVD and Blu-Ray all the time. Hell, I used to watch my warn out VHS all the time years ago.

Beast · 07-31-2008, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BirdManJr

Doomsday killed superman.
And would destroy any of the marvel characters!
mwhahahahaha

Sentry would have just thrown Doomsday into the Sun.

Something the boyscout wouldn't do.

Then there's folks like Dr. Strange, Scarlet Witch, Magneto, Phoenix. So no...

Blufury · 07-31-2008, 04:35 AM

The Dark Knight cut the gap. But one awesome movie isn't enough to top a handful of great movies.

Clark Kent · 07-31-2008, 04:49 AM

DC obviously, though I do like certain Marvel stuff. I think a lot of people gravitate toward Marvel because they've always done edgier characters like the Punisher and Wolverine. I think Marvel made way too many X-Men and mutant spin-offs which diluted the brand. Fans have also forgiven Marvel too easily for making way too many major mistakes like the Spider-man clone saga.

Blufury · 07-31-2008, 04:54 AM

nvm see post below

Blu-Malibu2009 · 07-31-2008, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfury82

The Dark Knight cut the gap. But one awesome movie isn't enough to top a handful of great movies.

Marvel doesn't have a handful of great movies. They have like 2 (X2 and Iron Man). DC has at least 3 by my count: Superman, Batman Begins, and TDK. Marvel has a far stronger stable of characters overall, but Batman kicks the crap out of every comic book character IMHO so that gives DC the edge even though I can't stand Superman and they really don't have any other great characters.

Beast · 07-31-2008, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TTUBatfan2008

Marvel doesn't have a handful of great movies. They have like 2 (X2 and Iron Man). DC has at least 3 by my count: Superman, Batman Begins, and TDK. Marvel has a far stronger stable of characters overall, but Batman kicks the crap out of every comic book character IMHO so that gives DC the edge even though I can't stand Superman and they really don't have any other great characters.

Marvel has more than a handful of great movies.

I don't think Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are all that and a bag of chips either.

Give me Batman and Batman Returns over both of those. Hell, give me Batman: The Movie.

Blufury · 07-31-2008, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TTUBatfan2008

Marvel doesn't have a handful of great movies. They have like 2 (X2 and Iron Man). DC has at least 3 by my count: Superman, Batman Begins, and TDK. Marvel has a far stronger stable of characters overall, but Batman kicks the crap out of every comic book character IMHO so that gives DC the edge even though I can't stand Superman and they really don't have any other great characters.

I disagree. Iron Man, X2, X-men, Spidey, Spidey 2, Blade 2.

From DC I consider Superman, Superman 2, Batman, and Batman Begins as great movies.

The Dark Knight is the best though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._Marvel_Comics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...d_on_DC_Comics

Blufury · 07-31-2008, 05:06 AM

Oh, DC has Steel. They win! lol

Blu-Malibu2009 · 07-31-2008, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Beast

Marvel has more than a handful of great movies.

I don't think Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are all that and a bag of chips either.

Give me Batman and Batman Returns over both of those. Hell, give me Batman: The Movie.

Typical. By the way, you like those penguins with rocket launchers? You'd think that came out of Batman & Robin...oops, it's in Batman Returns. Oh wait, let me guess. You like Batman & Robin just as much as Batman: The Movie, right?

Blu-Malibu2009 · 07-31-2008, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfury82

Oh, DC has Steel. They win! lol

Only comic book movie worse than that one is B&R. Elektra, Catwoman, and the Dudtastic Four movies are also up there.

GreenScar · 07-31-2008, 05:20 AM

You can't have an intelligent discussion on this topic here. (IMO after reading the posts)

BStecke · 07-31-2008, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jasonbird

You can't have an intelligent discussion on this topic here. (IMO after reading the posts)

Just this topic?

GreenScar · 07-31-2008, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

Just this topic?

touche

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07-31-2008, 04:54 AM	#71
Blufury Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Texas 4K collection:408 Blu-ray collection:1668 Trading Score:36	nvm see post below Last edited by Blufury; 07-31-2008 at 05:07 AM.

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07-31-2008, 04:21 AM	#63
GreenScar Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:2	We'll have to wait and see. I know that they have some pretty good Ideas coming up (SuperMax). And Batman Begins and The Dark Knight were really good. Personally I thought both Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk were better comic book movies.

07-31-2008, 04:21 AM	#64
BirdManJr Power Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews:3	Doomsday killed superman. And would destroy any of the marvel characters! mwhahahahaha

07-31-2008, 04:35 AM	#69
Blufury Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Texas 4K collection:408 Blu-ray collection:1668 Trading Score:36	The Dark Knight cut the gap. But one awesome movie isn't enough to top a handful of great movies.

07-31-2008, 04:49 AM	#70
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	DC obviously, though I do like certain Marvel stuff. I think a lot of people gravitate toward Marvel because they've always done edgier characters like the Punisher and Wolverine. I think Marvel made way too many X-Men and mutant spin-offs which diluted the brand. Fans have also forgiven Marvel too easily for making way too many major mistakes like the Spider-man clone saga.

07-31-2008, 05:06 AM	#75
Blufury Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Texas 4K collection:408 Blu-ray collection:1668 Trading Score:36	Oh, DC has Steel. They win! lol

07-31-2008, 05:20 AM	#78
GreenScar Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:2	You can't have an intelligent discussion on this topic here. (IMO after reading the posts)

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