Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print

[zafisher94]

I really wanted to eventually get this, but considering its not one of my favorites, that $30 tag is very tough lol and the limited time makes it tougher. I really resent Twilight Time, which sucks because I love supporting smaller companies (Blue Underground, Shout! Factory, Synapse, Criterion, ect.)

[Leterface]

Not paying 30€ for any remakes (though I have to admit I've never seen this film )

But as someone said, if it would contain both the original and the remake with good PQ I would order it in a heartbeat.

[#Darren]

I wonder if this (TT's high pricing) is some sort of ploy by Sony to try to boost the cost of catalogue BD?

[HDMe]

Originally Posted by #Darren

I wonder if this (TT's high pricing) is some sort of ploy by Sony to try to boost the cost of catalogue BD?

That's an interesting thought... the more movies that Twilight Time releases of higher quality that sell out quickly, the more fuel Sony has to price their own catalog releases higher.

I never thought about that before. I don't think it will actually work, but you never know what they might be thinking.

[Arkadin]

why would Sony care about the price of catalog when they are DONE with catalog?
(except for LOA)
I mean people just cannot accept the obvious--
SONY is DONE with catalog.
Sony is DONE with catalog.
Sony is DONE with catalog.

[BasicGreatGuy]

Originally Posted by zafisher94

I really wanted to eventually get this, but considering its not one of my favorites, that $30 tag is very tough lol and the limited time makes it tougher. I really resent Twilight Time, which sucks because I love supporting smaller companies (Blue Underground, Shout! Factory, Synapse, Criterion, ect.)

Why do you resent them? They are small business at work.

[HorrorBlu]

Originally Posted by #Darren

I wonder if this (TT's high pricing) is some sort of ploy by Sony to try to boost the cost of catalogue BD?

There are several interviews with the company out there that explain how it all works, including the cost.

It basically has to do with the fact that their releases are limited to 3,000 copies. If they were to press more than that, and were guaranteed to sell them all, then they could afford to sell at a lower cost.

But the licensing deal with Sony only allows them to release 3,000 copies, because that was the number set by Twilight Time (and it probably got them a reduced rate on licensing fees). It all comes down to supply and demand.

Twilight Time also insists on a three-year moratorium on the rights to ensure that their releases are truly a limited edition, keeping any other company from touching it for that time.

The problem is that Twilight Time doesn't have the money to do anything, even create or buy the rights to special features. They take the HD master they are given by the studio and simply put it on the disc.


This model actually can work well for consumers, considering that a lot of the films they release are pretty obscure and not necessarily in high demand. It kind of works in the same way MODs work, getting the films out there for those who want them.

But when it comes to bigger titles that actually have a high demand (like Fright Night or Night Of The Living Dead), then it is a horrible business model that basically buries these films in the ground for another three + years.


I often see comments comparing Twilight Time to companies like Synapse, Shout Factory, even Criterion, and... no. Just no. Not even close.

[Leterface]

I agree 100% with HorrorBlu. But I'd say the situation with these titles is created by the bad economy of Sony (and perhaps others too). It is Sony who is afraid to make long time business risks with BDs, because they have much debts and bills. These titles are a quick money grab for Sony and other companies. Perhaps not so much for TT, since it costs much more to produce only 3000 copies than it does with normal runs of tens or hundreds of thousand copies.

[hudakj]

Yeah, more than most multimedia film companies, Sony just doesn't give a hoot about getting its back catalog on blu-ray and is licensing out all but the biggest cash cows.

Regarding the films Twilight Time gets vs. other companies such as Criterion, I wonder if they end up in bidding wars over certain titles such as The Big Heat, Anatomy of a Murder or On the Waterfront or if its up to Sony to decide who gets what?

[antimatter]

I haven't checked but did AGAIG sell out? So far I though only fright night has sold out. Now Night of the Living Dead(RR) maybe the 2nd title.
I know I am in for NOLD I grew up watching that one as it was on TV all the time I have seen the original few times. I own that version done by that guy from Michigan. I think it is Forgotten Films.

[BasicGreatGuy]

Originally Posted by antimatter

I haven't checked but did AGAIG sell out? So far I though only fright night has sold out. Now Night of the Living Dead(RR) maybe the 2nd title.

Thus far, Fright Night is the only one to sell out.

[brian9229]

I honestly dont give half a crap what the price ends up being, watching this on blu will be worth it. I remember renting this on vhs when it came out in 89 i believe, i couldnt think of anyone better to direct this other than george himself! I never upgraded to the dvd, i still have a battered vhs copy of this that i copied off the rental version. This will be a great halloween season purchase my kids will be psyched!!

[Majin Blu]

Maybe Savini would record a new commentary, maybe?
Eh, regardless....I'll try to get this one. I felt bad a bit missing out on Fright Night.

[Majin Blu]

Originally Posted by brian9229

I honestly dont give half a crap what the price ends up being, watching this on blu will be worth it. I remember renting this on vhs when it came out in 89 i believe, i couldnt think of anyone better to direct this than george himself! I never upgraded to the dvd, i still have a battered vhs copy of this that i copied off the rental version. This will be a great halloween season purchase my kids will be psyched!!

YEAH!!!

[brian9229]

Originally Posted by reelgeek

YEAH!!!

HELLS YEA

[HorrorBlu]

Originally Posted by hudakj

Regarding the films Twilight Time gets vs. other companies such as Criterion, I wonder if they end up in bidding wars over certain titles such as The Big Heat, Anatomy of a Murder or On the Waterfront or if its up to Sony to decide who gets what?

I imagine Criterion would be willing to pay more, so they'd get it first. I think the reason Twilight Time is able to even get a hold of these films is because the limited printing most likely allows them a reduced rate. It doesn't sound like they really have the money to compete in a bidding war.

They kind of explain how it all works in the interviews with Twilight Time. There are a couple of different interviews out there, and they are a pretty interesting read for anyone who is interested, or anyone who wants to know exactly how licensing works.


In a nutshell, Sony and Fox have HD masters ready to go for many of their titles, but aren't sure if they will sell well enough to justify putting them onto blu-ray. Twilight Time sends them a list of 100 titles or so, and Sony / Fox whittles the list down to the titles they are willing to part with and what they have available HD masters for. It seems like Twilight Time pretty much takes what they can get.

The Twilight Time licensing deal was pitched to Fox and Sony as an experimental project to gauge the interest in these titles. The flaw here is that even if the titles do sell well, not even Fox or Sony can touch them until the moratorium expires, regardless of the fact that the title is out-of-print.


With a company like Criterion, I imagine they would come in and specifically request Anatomy Of A Murder, and if it is available then licensing negotiations would begin.

[HorrorBlu]

Originally Posted by brian9229

i couldnt think of anyone better to direct this than george himself!

Didn't Savini direct this one?

[dsman71]

Originally Posted by HorrorBlu

Didn't Savini direct this one?

Yes

[Dark Hueso]

missed out on fright night, not sure about this one yet

[brian9229]

Originally Posted by HorrorBlu

Didn't Savini direct this one?

yes he did i think i left a word out that made it sound like george directed it.sorry!