Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print - Page 170 - Blu-ray Forum

EddieLarkin · 09-30-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by #Darren

The argument with Bram Stoker's Dracula was that the DVD's had had the wrong coloring, and that the BD release fixed it.

Really? Not heard that before. I believe promotional booklets and such from the time of release were put forward as proof that the DVD had the theatrical colors.

Not to mention that the Blu-ray was so one note color wise that the optical "diary text" that appears when Keanu Reeves is wandering the castle, is now completely invisible.

Troy73 · 09-30-2012, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by #Darren

The argument with Bram Stoker's Dracula was that the DVD's had had the wrong coloring, and that the BD release fixed it.

The coloring present on the Blu for BSD was never representative of any previous release though. Not VHS or Laserdisc, so how did the Blu-ray restore a color error from DVD when no other release looks anything like the Blu-ray?

#Darren · 09-30-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

Really? Not heard that before. I believe promotional booklets and such from the time of release were put forward as proof that the DVD had the theatrical colors.

Not to mention that the Blu-ray was so one note color wise that the optical "diary text" that appears when Keanu Reeves is wandering the castle, is now completely invisible.

I read it here and there but it was so far back I can't source it. I'm pretty sure it was supposed to have come via statements from Coppola's film company. It may have been incorrect though..

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Originally Posted by Troy73

The coloring present on the Blu for BSD was never representative of any previous release though. Not VHS or Laserdisc, so how did the Blu-ray restore a color error from DVD when no other release looks anything like the Blu-ray?

Sorry, I should of said all home video releases (that is what they were arguing). Again, it may have been misinformation.

Ill_Be_Back · 09-30-2012, 09:01 AM

Sorry I have only started to read through the pages. Is the blue tint really that strong?

HyperRealist · 09-30-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ill_Be_Back

Sorry I have only started to read through the pages. Is the blue tint really that strong?

What do you think?

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Russhole · 09-30-2012, 09:05 AM

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Sorry I have only started to read through the pages. Is the blue tint really that strong?

I honestly didn't think so. It is a little darker but not as bad as those screen caps suggest.

Troy73 · 09-30-2012, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ill_Be_Back

Sorry I have only started to read through the pages. Is the blue tint really that strong?

You will notice it. To what degree will vary. I have a display that is ISF calibrated by LionAV. It doesn't look bad and detail is there in spades. I just don't feel the color changes/darkening are correct. Also, the screen caps I've seen are not a good representation of what I see on my display. The ones posted here are extreme cases to be sure.

Kentai · 09-30-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent

People keep saying there is an added blue push, but that is probably not correct. The white balance would be different in the credits if that had been significantly altered...

Not necessarily! It surprisingly easy to push the midtones to one color (say, blue) while keeping the highlights perfectly neutral. You can actually tweak color correction software to zap the highlights of any color information just so the brightest part in any given scene doesn't have an obvious color cast.

(Besides, according to several posters the first five minutes don't have an obvious blue push... I wonder how long the opening credits last?

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I have neither the time nor the energy to repeat myself on BSD... short version is the transfer's a modern looking mess, and while the previous HD master and subsequent DVDs made from it likely wasn't perfect, I'm convinced that the version without crushed blacks, green torches, and scene-specific, clearly digital desaturation is how the film looked when it was released twenty years ago.

Does an Answer Print with funky color timing exist? Maybe, but without anyone ever having seen it before or FFC ever having mentioned that he was unhappy with the multitude of previous home video masters made over the years, I have my doubts...

Ill_Be_Back · 09-30-2012, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HyperRealist

What do you think?

[Show spoiler]

Ahhh, that doesn't look good... That blue tint is pretty strong... That scene when Ben drives in doesn't even look like it is set during the daytime!

blureviewobscura · 09-30-2012, 09:17 AM

If the screen caps and especially the Youtube video are an accurate representation of the actual transfer as far as this blu-ray is concerned....

well to quote the film itself, "That's another one for the fire!"

rafaelsalguero · 09-30-2012, 09:18 AM

omg that youtube video comparation its SHOCKING
The bluray sucks !!! the DVD looks a lot better

Ill_Be_Back · 09-30-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rafaelsalguero

omg that youtube video comparation its SHOCKING
The bluray sucks !!! the DVD looks a lot better

That YouTube comparison looks blown out of proportion the screenshots look more accurate...

Troy73 · 09-30-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ill_Be_Back

That YouTube comparison looks blown out of proportion the screenshots look more accurate...

You are right in that regard...but how do you know that to be the case? Just curious since I thought based on your inquiry you had not seen the blu.

Ill_Be_Back · 09-30-2012, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Troy73

You are right in that regard...but how do you know that to be the case? Just curious since I thought based on your inquiry you had not seen the blu.

I have not seen the Blu-Ray yet, though the screenshots have a lot more detail and the blue is no where as intense as seen on that YouTube video. I hope and pray that when i watch it, that those screenshots are accurate to some degree...

Troy73 · 09-30-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ill_Be_Back

I have not seen the Blu-Ray yet, though the screenshots have a lot more detail and the blue is no where as intense as seen on that YouTube video. I hope and pray that when i watch it, that those screenshots are accurate to some degree...

Okay, I gotcha now. Yes the screens are closer and I believe still a bit extreme in regard to what I'm seeing on the disc on my display.

Kryptonic · 09-30-2012, 09:35 AM

Wow. They really f'd this one up big time.

Ill_Be_Back · 09-30-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Troy73

Okay, I gotcha now. Yes the screens are closer and I believe still a bit extreme in regard to what I'm seeing on the disc on my display.

I just don't understand why they did this. The film looked perfectly fine before, there was no need for the blue tint in the first place. I will have to wait until I watch my copy until I can pass more judgment.

Mr Kite · 09-30-2012, 09:47 AM

We only have the screen grabs and the dodgy Youtube video to go off but i have asked a couple of people i know to take a look and maybe shed some light (excuse the pun) on what has been done to the transfer.

EffenBlue · 09-30-2012, 09:51 AM

Wow! You go away for a day and a freakin' war breaks out, it got extremely intense in here. After I ripped it to my computer I put it in my PS3 and was switching back and forth between it and the DVD and noticed the difference in the brightness but didn't think it would turn into this.

Mr Kite · 09-30-2012, 09:56 AM

Can anyone tell me if TT provide any information regarding the transfer/restoration and who authorised it?

Do they have a point of contact where someone can find out?

09-30-2012, 09:01 AM	#3384
Ill_Be_Back Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:Northern Ireland Trading Score:35	Sorry I have only started to read through the pages. Is the blue tint really that strong?

09-30-2012, 09:17 AM	#3390
blureviewobscura Active Member Member since:Jun 2010 Trading Score:3	If the screen caps and especially the Youtube video are an accurate representation of the actual transfer as far as this blu-ray is concerned.... well to quote the film itself, "That's another one for the fire!"

09-30-2012, 09:18 AM	#3391
rafaelsalguero Special Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Mexico Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:117 Blu-ray collection:1358 DVD collection:8 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:12	omg that youtube video comparation its SHOCKING The bluray sucks !!! the DVD looks a lot better

09-30-2012, 09:35 AM	#3396
Kryptonic Suspended Member since:Jul 2009 Trading Score:45	Wow. They really f'd this one up big time.

09-30-2012, 09:47 AM	#3398
Mr Kite Banned Member since:Jun 2012 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:367 Trading Score:5	We only have the screen grabs and the dodgy Youtube video to go off but i have asked a couple of people i know to take a look and maybe shed some light (excuse the pun) on what has been done to the transfer.

09-30-2012, 09:51 AM	#3399
EffenBlue Active Member Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Maryland Blu-ray collection:261 DVD collection:117 Digital collection:17 iTunes collection:228 Trading Score:34	Wow! You go away for a day and a freakin' war breaks out, it got extremely intense in here. After I ripped it to my computer I put it in my PS3 and was switching back and forth between it and the DVD and noticed the difference in the brightness but didn't think it would turn into this.

09-30-2012, 09:56 AM	#3400
Mr Kite Banned Member since:Jun 2012 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:367 Trading Score:5	Can anyone tell me if TT provide any information regarding the transfer/restoration and who authorised it? Do they have a point of contact where someone can find out?

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