Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print

[HyperRealist]

waiting for whitesheik to chime in....

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by Irrob

I agree with this assessment based on what I saw on my display.

I'm curious how much did your TV cost and what is it?

[BluRayFiend]

Irrob not to get off topic but nice setup, an the question people should be trying to find out is what master did they use for this release it all hinges on that

[EddieLarkin]

Surely some of this bile should be directed at Sony? I know we can't be sure where this problem originated but TT seem to think it was Sony, so presumably if Sony put this out themselves we'd have the same issue.

So what are TT to do? If both the guys who run it are unfamiliar with the film, and have no reason to think Sony would muck something up like this due to the reputation they have regarding catalogue transfers, it's not fair to assume they would notice the problem during the encoding stage.

And if Sony could care so little about this film to not release it themselves, it's entirely possible they'll make no effort to correct it. TT can't correct it themselves, so what level of anger should really be directed at them?

I agree they need to address this issue a little more frankly, but they should be given at least a week to do so.

[Clark Kent]

People do realize the events preceding Barbara entering the house are supposed to occur at dusk? Without going into filming specifics, there is a process called day-for-night shooting. You film the scene in the day with full light, but the final product is intended to be seen by the viewer as a shot taking place in the night. Hollywood has been doing it that way for decades.

It looks to me like the color timing changes got a little too aggressive in properly correcting the day-for-night shots, when they weren't corrected at all for the original DVD transfer. That leads to the massive differences in available light to the image. The Blu-ray would be the more correct transfer if my guess is right, though it does look like it could have been handled smoother by the technician.

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

The darker push really only affects the first thirty minutes or so, until the setting moves primarily indoors to the house. It's still dark inside the house, but not that unusual looking.

Just finished watching the film, and I agree with you.

The beginning and final scenes look well enough - It's clear that someone was attempting to emulate the scenes as 'late' and 'early' in the day. This theory can be backed up by the fact that the outdoors get continually darker in the shots that lead up to Barbara finding the house.

This is where the film appears to look the worst, as the tint that was utilized to emulate the early evening makes the picture look unnatural. But, it does appear they were going for a 'day to night' transition here.

Inside the house is dark, yet, but as you've previously said, shadows are resolved quite well more often than not. Also, if this was a blue tint across the board as some others seem to think, the white text would have been affected... and it isn't.

Honestly, I really don't think TT are at fault here. A change was made somewhere down the line... I don't know by WHO, but a change WAS made, and it looks to be very much intentional. I don't know if Savini ever signed off on it or what, but SOMEBODY made these changes intentionally. Once we're inside the house with the lights on at night, things look alright. Certainly a bit darker than what we're used to, but it does look alright.

What does bother me by this change, is that it seems to mess with skin tones through and through.

I wouldn't exactly say it's a tragedy for me... I enjoyed watching this version of Night of the Living Dead. I had this and have seen it on DVD before, but it's been YEAAARS since I've seen it, so I have nothing in mind to compare this Blu-ray to. I just know that I wasn't AS disappointed as I thought I was going to be by reading this thread. But, I can also see why so many people are upset.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

People do realize the events preceding Barbara entering the house are supposed to occur at dusk? Without going into filming specifics, there is a process called day-for-night shooting. You film the scene in the day with full light, but the final product is intended to be seen by the viewer as a shot taking place in the night. Hollywood has been doing it that way for decades.

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I'm sure many of us are aware of the incredibly lazy and never convincing use of "day for night" in films. It only works if you do inside shots.

[HyperRealist]

you gotta love the guys trying to cover their asses. Rush out to be the first person to review it. Give it a glowing review. Find out it is a pos.

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by Irrob

Took a few shots with my camera. Yes it's very different from the DVD. The blue tint/hue is very noticeable in some scenes. But it isn't pervasive in the whole film.

[Show spoiler]

You see, this is why such methods of capping are really pointless. Colour wise that looks entirely different to the previous cap someone else did of the same scene (obviously it still looks wrong, but it doesn't look half as bad)

I'll decide if I'm going to open my copy (it'll take a while to get here) once I've seen some proper caps.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by wormraper

we're talking a full on recall, re=do and re-print of all released copies

I don't think Sony, nor Twilight Time is going to invest a lot of money do a complete HD restoration of this film. If that was the case, Sony would've released it themselves.

[Chef_Boy-RT]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

The darker push really only affects the first thirty minutes or so, until the setting moves primarily indoors to the house. It's still dark inside the house, but not that unusual looking.

Yea, that is exactly what I noticed also! The first five minutes looked pretty good, then that dark blue tint was present until exactly the 27:50 mark

[urbanchaos]

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

People do realize the events preceding Barbara entering the house are supposed to occur at dusk? Without going into filming specifics, there is a process called day-for-night shooting. You film the scene in the day with full light, but the final product is intended to be seen by the viewer as a shot taking place in the night. Hollywood has been doing it that way for decades.

It looks to me like the color timing changes got a little too aggressive in properly correcting the day-for-night shots, when they weren't corrected at all for the original DVD transfer. That leads to the massive differences in available light to the image. The Blu-ray would be the more correct transfer if my guess is right, though it does look like it could have been handled smoother by the technician.

I agree that after the first 25 minutes the colors stabilize. However, it is obvious that there's an error in this transfer. If the blue tint was supposed to be there, it would be there for the entire film.

Originally Posted by Chef_Boy-RT

Yea, that is exactly what I noticed also! The first five minutes looked pretty good, then that dark blue tint was present until exactly the 27:50

Also agree.

[BluRayFiend]

On the bright side at least its not like a lord of the rings green tint through the hole film

[dsman71]

I thought Bruce was the only TT butt kisser but there looks like there is someone named Justin who defends like he owns stock with the company or gets a commission on all of this

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by BluRayFiend

On the bright side at least its not like a lord of the rings green tint through the hole film

This is worse, its affecting the whole picture because most of the film is at night and it ruins the good F/X work.

[Clownunderthebed]

Another alteration noticed.... kinda nitpicky.... during the still photo montage at the beginning of the end credits, the camera clicking sounds between each image shown has been removed. Saw this in theater and I have owned every home format release so the audio change definitely jumped out at me.

[BluRayFiend]

That I have to agree it def does ruin the majority of the F/X

[ChristmasFnatic]

Originally Posted by urbanchaos

I hope youre not trolling. If this is serious... wow.

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