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Old 09-30-2012, 11:25 PM   #3741
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That's called "passing the buck" and that's some BS right there. Own up to the mistake.
What mistake do you think TT themselves have actually made? Do you expect them to completely alter a Sony approved transfer before putting it on their discs?
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:26 PM   #3742
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What mistake do you think TT themselves have actually made? Do you expect them to completely alter a Sony approved transfer before putting it on their discs?
Their mistake was that they do the same thing as Image and Mill Creek do on Sony titles, yet charge 3 times as much.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:27 PM   #3743
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All of this news has been really overwhelming. I certainly hope more questions are answered tomorrow as Twilight Time proposed. If Sony did indeed sign off on this transfer then I'll have no issue excepting the look of the film as it is. I'm just hoping that after the dust settles on this title, Twilight Time goes into future titles, especially "Christine", with way more research done on them before releasing them to the lucky 3,000. Mistakes/errors like this are good wake-up calls to companies and those that take them seriously and correct the issue for the better in the future is like a blessing in disguise. Here's hoping for the best!
or they could decide that the horror crowd is too much of a pain in the ass to deal with and go back to other niche titles.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:27 PM   #3744
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Info from TT over at HTF.
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Well they're right. Most comparisons don't look like the few accurate caps posted here. Note their use of the word "most"
the few accurate caps posted here? accurate as compared to what? the bluray isn't accurate by any means. it's pretty well established that they decided to change day to night which is pretty inaccurate to the original.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:27 PM   #3745
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What mistake do you think TT themselves have actually made? Do you expect them to completely alter a Sony approved transfer before putting it on their discs?
Did they not watch the disc before distributing it? Is there no QC? They didn't say "Hey, this looks drastically different than all previous versions, including film prints. Maybe there's something a bit wrong here."
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:28 PM   #3746
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TT are two people, and cult horror is not their forte.
While, this is true, Twilight Time certainly offers a variety of film genres in their catalog but based on this title, "Fright Night" and the upcoming "Christine", horror seems to be the one that's really bringing them quick and steady profit. It would be wise for them to continue digging into more horror films since they are the ones selling best for them.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:28 PM   #3747
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Their mistake was that they do the same thing as Image and Mill Creek do on Sony titles, yet charge 3 times as much.
Apparently so.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:29 PM   #3748
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or they could decide that the horror crowd is too much of a pain in the ass to deal with and go back to other niche titles.
Haha that's always true too!
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:30 PM   #3749
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or they could decide that the horror crowd is too much of a pain in the ass to deal with and go back to other niche titles.
That's what I fear. If they offer refunds, then people should just be forgiving. Twilight Time has a pretty good track record to my knowledge, and this is their only screw up. There are bigger companies that screw up transfers often and aren't getting as much crap as TT is getting for one release.
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or they could decide that the horror crowd is too much of a pain in the ass to deal with and go back to other niche titles.
That would be fantastic. Hopefully Sony can revoke their agreement with TT with regards to Christine and Sony can release a proper version at an affordable price.
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Twilight Time established a different report with their customers than any other studio.
But then again, TT is not the culprit. Sony should be liable for the color timing of this movie because, they maintain all the masters of their films.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:31 PM   #3752
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That's what I fear. If they offer refunds, then people should just be forgiving. Twilight Time has a pretty good track record to my knowledge, and this is their only screw up. There are bigger companies that screw up transfers often and aren't getting as much crap as TT is getting for one release.
Their track record is great - no one else would have released The Big Heat or Rapture and those are stellar pic/audio quality.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:32 PM   #3753
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or they could decide that the horror crowd is too much of a pain in the ass to deal with and go back to other niche titles.

Oh, I wish they would turn to peplum/epic/religious/roman/egyptian films if that's the case.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:34 PM   #3754
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Twilight Time has a pretty good track record to my knowledge, and this is their only screw up.
there is also Demetrius and the Gladiators.
Not very good picture (of course not their fault), and audio sync issues in many (including myself)
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:34 PM   #3755
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Their track record is great - no one else would have released The Big Heat or Rapture and those are stellar pic/audio quality.
That again is down to the supplier, TT just distribute and make magnets
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:34 PM   #3756
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Did they not watch the disc before distributing it? Is there no QC? They didn't say "Hey, this looks drastically different than all previous versions, including film prints. Maybe there's something a bit wrong here."
I'm sure they did watch it, but you're assuming their own past familiarity with the film. The comment from them just posted shows they are indeed unfamiliar with previous iterations. I don't think it's wrong for them to presume Sony, one of the best in the industry when it comes to catalogue transfers, with some of the most stringent QC, have given them a quality transfer.

I'm confident the reply from Sony to TT will be "Yes, the film is supposed to be like that, we decided to make it darker".

A completely bogus reply? Yes, but one TT will be able to do little about.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:35 PM   #3757
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If only Sony allowed special features to be made for the films... The possibilities of what Scream Factory could do with a title like "Christine" would be endless. Does anybody know exactly why Sony doesn't allow them to be made? Other than to piss off loyal fans of these films
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But then again, TT is not the culprit. Sony should be liable for the color timing of this movie because, they maintain all the masters of their films.
It's Sony's fault, the same thing was done to Dracula.
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If only Sony allowed special features to be made for the films... The possibilities of what Scream Factory could do with a title like "Christine" would be endless. Does anybody know exactly why Sony doesn't allow them to be made? Other than to piss off loyal fans of these films
Honestly, with Christine, I'm not sure what else they could included that wasn't included on the DVD - Carpenter/Gordon commentary and over an hour of documentary footage.
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