Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print

[therock666]

the transfer on the sony hd channel is pretty good i still have it on my dvr from last halloween when it aired

[zafisher94]

Conflicted if I should buy this or not. I always enjoyed this film, but the $30 price tag is nuts. As much as I would love to have this in my collection, I think I must show restraint and won't comply with TT for offering such a subpar product at such a high cost. oh well, maybe when the deal expires

[HyperRealist]

subpar product?

[zafisher94]

Originally Posted by HyperRealist

subpar product?

Not the movie itself, but to charge more than a Criterion bd for less than 1/2 the effort the Criterion puts in. I know this has been discussed numerous times, so I wont get too into it. This film could've easily been released by Sony for a reasonable price. But I respect people's decisions to purchase from them, I just cant simply justify it for myself.

[balthazar_bee]

Originally Posted by zafisher94

Conflicted if I should buy this or not. I always enjoyed this film, but the $30 price tag is nuts.

I think I sense another "back in the days of laserdisc" rant in the offing.

Hardly nuts. Seriously, I happily paid something like $100 for Elite's awesome NOTLD68 release. Remember the one, with that lovely colour photo of Ben holding a torch on the porch on the cover? Of course you don't. Thirty for a blu-ray quality NOTLD90 isn't an agonizing decision.

[ParticleDan]

Join the campaign on Twilight Time's Facebook page to limit the number of copies of a particular title that customers can purchase!

(not really a campaign - yet - just a damn good idea that needs more support!)

[UNCMT9]

Yeah, I can't fathom paying more than about $9.99 for this. As one poster said, Criterion puts in a lot more work for the same price and yields consistency every time. With Twilight Time, I've heard it's a mixed bag.

[jebhdb]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

I think I sense another "back in the days of laserdisc" rant in the offing.

Hardly nuts. Seriously, I happily paid something like $100 for Elite's awesome NOTLD68 release. Remember the one, with that lovely colour photo of Ben holding a torch on the porch on the cover? Of course you don't. Thirty for a blu-ray quality NOTLD90 isn't an agonizing decision.

The price of laser disc is completely irrelevant to what dvd's/blu rays cost today and hasn't been relevant for a long time. Movies have since become a mass market item and have been priced accordingly. While $30 might have been cheap for a laser disc, it is expensive for what is basically a bare bones blu ray.

[zafisher94]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

I think I sense another "back in the days of laserdisc" rant in the offing.

Hardly nuts. Seriously, I happily paid something like $100 for Elite's awesome NOTLD68 release. Remember the one, with that lovely colour photo of Ben holding a torch on the porch on the cover? Of course you don't. Thirty for a blu-ray quality NOTLD90 isn't an agonizing decision.

Perhaps because I was a toddler when DVD's came out, I can't fully appreciate the value of certain releases. But none the less, in our economy of 2012, it is very hard for me to be ok with spending $30 on a film I consider average, with hardly any bonus material, or even a nice packaging. I'm not trying to bash or even complain about TT, im simply expressing my disappointment at not being able to add this movie to my collection.

[Blu Titan]

Please lets not make this another 1,000 post thread discussing TT's business model . The chances of TT limiting purchases of this title are minus infinity. It is what it is, let's discuss the actual release. Buy or not...a.personal decision.

[#Darren]

You need not apologize. The laser-disk analogy is inappropriate, as jebhdb explains in the post above yours. Collecting media was a "specialty" hobby back then (hardly anybody did it), and so the pricing was justified. Collecting media is as common as mud today, almost everybody has a DVD in their house, and todays media prices reflect that change.

Originally Posted by zafisher94

Perhaps because I was a toddler when DVD's came out, I can't fully appreciate the value of certain releases. But none the less, in our economy of 2012, it is very hard for me to be ok with spending $30 on a film I consider average, with hardly any bonus material, or even a nice packaging. I'm not trying to bash or even complain about TT, im simply expressing my disappointment at not being able to add this movie to my collection.

[UNCMT9]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Please lets not make this another 1,000 post thread discussing TT's business model . The chances of TT limiting purchases of this title are minus infinity. It is what it is, let's discuss the actual release. Buy or not...a.personal decision.

The cult status of the movie, for many, is not worth this price. While the film itself is very enjoyable, there's not much to say. Features look limited and the packaging is basic. Unfortunately for a movie like this, price will be brought up quite a bit.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by SpartanIre

That is not going to happen. The TT model is setup that they will eat what they do not sell. If they lower the price of their movies later all that will encourage is for people to wait for the price drop... Essentially, they would cause the demise of their own business model...

Indeed SpartanIre.

But the problem here is many posters routinely mention TT and SAE in the same breath as if they are the same company. They are not. TT authors, manufactures, and packages. SAE promotes, processes payment, and ships. So it's SAE's policies regarding multiple unit orders that some are really decrying here, and to understand why SAE does it this way, you have to look at how they handle other media, specifically limited edition soundtrack CDs.

SAE is a collector-focused venue with a steady, longstanding, and trusting customer base, most of whom know by now that when they see a CD soundtrack limited to 3000, 2000, or even 1000, then pre-order date (or soon thereafter) is their time to act, because they will be up against not only other enthusiastic collectors but also a handful of deep-pocket speculators. Some of these limited edition CD soundtracks have been total MIAs from the market, and with such a pent up customer demand over decades, they occasionally sell like hotcakes immediately, and sell out very quickly. Other titles linger in stock for years. But with a limited release model, you have little or no wiggle-room on price, your fixed costs will kill you otherwise, so both TT and SAE need those occasional 'barnstorming' titles that turn a profit and sellout quickly. Why would either company implement a maximum unit per customer policy that could sabotage that? For all they know, a particular movie might turn out to be of little interest domestically, but is the hottest thing ever in Oz and somebody down under is group buying multiple Blu-rays for friends and fans to save on shipping. The producer did the title, they did it as well as the surviving materials would allow, their distributor made as many folks aware of the release as possible via their available means, so the rest is up to customers...who have either been waiting for it and want it, or decide they didn't want it that badly after all.

Night of the Living Dead 1990 was just such an opportunity - and challenge - for both companies. A solid HD transfer was available from Sony, which the studio made clear they had no intention of taking to Blu-ray themselves. If you listen only to the 'core geeks, this title will be a slam dunk and early sellout. But there's no guarantee of that - look what happened after similarly high expectations and predictions for As Good As It Gets - and yet it's still there, no 500 remaining emails sent. NOTLD90 could turn out to be another "must have" title that fewer than expected actually buy. 'Net buzz is unreliable for stuff like this...it tends to be from a small 'tight' pool...which might only translate into a few hundred extra day one pre-orders. I mean, how many forum posters - not only here but elsewhere - who shout "Day One", are in reality saying "Day Maybe" "Day Eventually" or "Day Never at That Price"?

So if a speculator is willing to buy 10 of these Blu-rays hoping to flip them for a profit downstream, then why wouldn't both TT and SAE be glad to shift their own hard dollar risk to those willing to take an equally uncertain gamble? Their bottom line looks the same either way.

[balthazar_bee]

Originally Posted by #Darren

You need not apologize. The laser-disk analogy is inappropriate, as jebhdb explains in the post above yours. Collecting media was a "specialty" hobby back then (hardly anybody did it), and so the pricing was justified. Collecting media is as common as mud today, almost everybody has a DVD in their house, and todays media prices reflect that change.

I guess I just figured that people who post on blu-ray.com were..."enthusiastic" (if not passionate) about movies.

I've made this mistake before. Packaging and bargain hunting seem to be top dogs now.

In the nineties, laserdiscs were head and shoulders above the alternative, and the alternative -- VHS -- could sometimes reach $20-30. Was buying VHS a "specialty" hobby as well?

In fact, I have to disagree with the assertion that collecting media is common as mud. Maybe five to ten years ago. If anything, I'd say culture is moving in the opposite direction. "Why take up space in my home with a physical copy when I can just watch it online?"

As for pricing, well, I can't help it if people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. It's not like I'm talking about the dark ages here. I'd save up and buy the films I wanted in the best format available; I do the same today. $30 is too much? One is free not to buy. But to say thirty dollars is a "nuts" price to spend for a physical copy of a film in a top-tier presentation, well, it wasn't that long ago that a blu-ray under twenty dollars felt like a miracle. I just think it helps to have a sense of history.

[Cahleb]

wooooooo!!!!!! Super excited for this!!

where will this be available at?

[UNCMT9]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

I guess I just figured that people who post on blu-ray.com were..."enthusiastic" (if not passionate) about movies.

I've made this mistake before. Packaging and bargain hunting seem to be top dogs now.

In the nineties, laserdiscs were head and shoulders above the alternative, and the alternative -- VHS -- could sometimes reach $20-30. Was buying VHS a "specialty" hobby as well?

In fact, I have to disagree with the assertion that collecting media is common as mud. Maybe five to ten years ago. If anything, I'd say culture is moving in the opposite direction. "Why take up space in my home with a physical copy when I can just watch it online?"

As for pricing, well, I can't help it if people know the price of everything and the value of nothing. It's not like I'm talking about the dark ages here. I'd save up and buy the films I wanted in the best format available; I do the same today. $30 is too much? One is free not to buy. But to say thirty dollars is a "nuts" price to spend for a physical copy of a film in a top-tier presentation, well, it wasn't that long ago that a blu-ray under twenty dollars felt like a miracle. I just think it helps to have a sense of history.

Key word, top notch. While I don't own any TT titles, I have heard very mixed reviews of different features. I'm kind of kicking myself for not picking up Journey to the Center of the Earth but you live and you learn. I ultimately held off because of the mixed reviews. I think a lot of casual people are turned off because with TT you don't necessarily get the quality a $30 title may deserve.

[#Darren]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

I guess I just figured that people who post on blu-ray.com were..."enthusiastic" (if not passionate) about movies.

And what's to say they are not? Because they know the going rate of good films on BD?

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

I've made this mistake before. Packaging and bargain hunting seem to be top dogs now.

Do you think Criterion collectors are nickle counters? You assume people are just bargain hunters because they have a sense of the worth of their money?

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

In the nineties, laserdiscs were head and shoulders above the alternative, and the alternative -- VHS -- could sometimes reach $20-30. Was buying VHS a "specialty" hobby as well?

Yes buying VHS films was somewhat of a hobby then, in fact I collected on VHS before I bought my first laserdisk, so I would know.

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

In fact, I have to disagree with the assertion that collecting media is common as mud. Maybe five to ten years ago. If anything, I'd say culture is moving in the opposite direction. "Why take up space in my home with a physical copy when I can just watch it online?"

Feel free to disagree. It is common nonetheless.

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

But to say thirty dollars is a "nuts" price to spend for a physical copy of a film in a top-tier presentation, well, it wasn't that long ago that a blu-ray under twenty dollars felt like a miracle. I just think it helps to have a sense of history.

I have been collecting BD since it's inception, and commonly paid around 16.00 a film back then. I paid over 30.00 for my first ever DVD in the late 90's but do I pay that for a average DVD today?

[MrClarke]

I don't think this NotlD is a super great movie, but I enjoyed it. And I'm trying to slowly upgrade my DVDs, and this is one I have on DVD. If $30 was the norm for catalog prices, I'd probably *****, but occasionally? If I want it bad enough, I'll get it. If not, I won't... I don't get TT titles simply for the purpose of having them. I've only bought two of them. Fright Night and As Good as it Gets. I'll be getting this one too. There's a lot of people saying they won't get it cos of the price (same thing they say every time TT releases a Blu). It's simple really. That means its not worth it to you so don't get it... I'm going to preorder it because they called a lot of people's bluff. People thought others would never pay $30 for Fright night to the point that it sold out. Then they complained about it being on eBay for $150... I'd rather pay the $30 and have it, then not and my only option being some creep on eBay who bought a ton to sell at five times the cost.

[wicky_J]

Originally Posted by Cahleb

wooooooo!!!!!! Super excited for this!!

where will this be available at?

http://www.screenarchives.com/displa...m?category=546

[#Darren]

Originally Posted by MrClarke

I don't think this NotlD is a super great movie, but I enjoyed it. And I'm trying to slowly upgrade my DVDs, and this is one I have on DVD. If $30 was the norm for catalog prices, I'd probably *****, but occasionally? If I want it bad enough, I'll get it. If not, I won't... I don't get TT titles simply for the purpose of having them. I've only bought two of them. Fright Night and As Good as it Gets. I'll be getting this one too. There's a lot of people saying they won't get it cos of the price (same thing they say every time TT releases a Blu). It's simple really. That means its not worth it to you so don't get it... I'm going to preorder it because they called a lot of people's bluff. People thought others would never pay $30 for Fright night to the point that it sold out. Then they complained about it being on eBay for $150... I'd rather pay the $30 and have it, then not and my only option being some creep on eBay who bought a ton to sell at five times the cost.

Of course, if you want it get it. I have done the same with several TT titles. I don't think anyone is saying don't get it if you are willing to spend the money.