Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print

[iamsometal]

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

They aren't a "high priced label". $30 dollars is actually lower than allot of new releases MSRP. It's not TT fault we're all used to picking up movies at Walmarts Bargain Bin.

$30 for a bare-bones release is most definitely high priced, regardless of how many units are pressed.

[prozacnation1978]

Saw it last night. Wasn't as bad as I thought it would be
But for 35 bucks. Safe to say I won't get another twilight time release

If they do a recall. I will probably send it back. If not I am cool with it

The movie wasn't as good as I saw it last

[Tybo28]

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

They aren't a "high priced label". $30 dollars is actually lower than allot of new releases MSRP. It's not TT fault we're all used to picking up movies at Walmarts Bargain Bin.

Uh, $30 for a featureless blu ray is pretty expensive. Don't know where you're shopping? Ive never paid msrp in my life. Id think the majority of people who would buy movies that expensive would be...fans. the same people upset about this release. What exactly have we established here? TT is a company that charges top dollar, has no involvement in their releases or interest in the films they release, does no research, accepts whatever the studio gives them, but questions their customers? I can't believe the mega store hasn't opened yet... Personally, unlike this blu ray, I think they're showing their true colors. Don't have much else to say about the subject. We'll have to agree to disagree.

[thephantomcat]

Originally Posted by iamsometal

$30 for a bare-bones release is most definitely high priced, regardless of how many units are pressed.

You see, this is why people come off as whiners. You undestand that Units Sold x Price - Cost = Profit, right? So the number of units pressed is VERY important when it comes to detirmining cost.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

You see, this is why people come off as whiners. You undestand that Units Sold x Price - Cost = Profit, right? So the number of units pressed is VERY important when it comes to detirmining cost.

You might want to take a little break there. You're getting a little too defensive over a company you don't even work for.

[UNCMT9]

Have you guys solved the world's problems yet?

[metropolis]

Seems Twilight Time have a few plants in this thread. They know no logic other than defend at all costs!!

[UNCMT9]

Originally Posted by metropolis

Seems Twilight Time have a few plants in this thread. They know no logic other than defend at all costs!!

To be fair, what if it's Sony's fault? This isn't a witchhunt. People are so anxious to blame someone, they won't even wait until the truth is known.

[metropolis]

Originally Posted by UNCMT9

To be fair, what if it's Sony's fault? This isn't a witchhunt. People are so anxious to blame someone, they won't even wait until the truth is known.

Pretty clear that BOTH are responsible for the product, don't you think?

[Tybo28]

Originally Posted by metropolis

Pretty clear that BOTH are responsible for the product, don't you think?

Yes.

[iamsometal]

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

You see, this is why people come off as whiners. You undestand that Units Sold x Price - Cost = Profit, right? So the number of units pressed is VERY important when it comes to detirmining cost.

You're turning this into a completely different argument. We're not talking about cost of manufacturing and TT's profit. We're talking about the price they're charging collectors for a bare-bones release. The fact is, TT charges a premium for a collectible disc. End of story.

By chance do you work for TT, or are friends with someone that does? Just wondering.

[UNCMT9]

Originally Posted by metropolis

Pretty clear that BOTH are responsible for the product, don't you think?

Probably. Who knows. Only time will tell.

[thephantomcat]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

You might want to take a little break there. You're getting a little too defensive over a company you don't even work for.

Oh, I'm the one that needs to take a break? There are people who've been on here complaining about the same exact thing non-stop for 24 hours even though they've already been told that Sony is being contacted as soon as possible and an answer will be forth coming, but I'm the one who needs to take a break? And from what? I'd say the people throwing around words like butt kisser and plants are the one's who need to calm down. Cause if someone has an opinion different than their's, they are disingeniolus.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

You see, this is why people come off as whiners. You undestand that Units Sold x Price - Cost = Profit, right? So the number of units pressed is VERY important when it comes to detirmining cost.

Ah, finally I understand why Troma had such an astronomically high list price of $29.99 for their limited 1 blu, 2 DVD, 1 CD release of Father's Day. Sure they had 2000 extra to make a profit on, but that super expensive individual numbering must have eaten into that.

[Ill_Be_Back]

I can't believe how many pages have spawned since I have been away about 30 pages have been added since last night...

[Cortiz]

I have an idea....why don't we stop making assumptions and wait until there's ACTUALLY AN OFFICIAL WORD?

[UNCMT9]

Originally Posted by Cortiz

I have an idea....what don't we stop making assumptions and wait until there's ACTUALLY AN OFFICIAL WORD?

That means that all those placing blame on someone would actually have to eat crow.

[AgentOrange]

Originally Posted by UNCMT9

Probably. Who knows. Only time will tell.

The point is even if it is Sony's fault, that is not really an excuse for Twilight Time to not fix it. I don't think people care who's 'fault' it is, if there's a problem they just want it corrected to the way the film should appear. It's irrelevant whether it was introduced in the "telecine process" or during the authoring/duplication of the discs. Unless it was a change absolutely approved by the director/cinematographer, which is hard to believe at this point, then it needs to be corrected.

Sony and Twilight Time can fight with each internally as far as recouping their contract costs (i.e. if it's Sony's mistake they should cover some of Twilight Time's lost expenses), but at the end of the day it's up to Twilight Time to please it's customers who are essentially "special ordering" items from the directly. Even understanding they are a small operation, it's too bad. They don't get to just retain the profits off a faulty disc and do nothing about it. They still have an obligation to "make things right" with their product.

[MifuneFan]

I found this apologist review quite amusing

Night Of The Living Dead - Twilight Time Blu Ray Review!

Night Of The Living Dead (1990) sure does bring back a lot of memories for me. It was this very film that firmly implanted my love of horror. This was also the first film that I was allowed to stay up past my 8PM bedtime to see. (Awwww) This mark on the timeline of my life, turned me into the horror-loving night-owl that I am today.

When I learned that ‘Twilight Time’ were planning a limited Blu Ray release of this film, I knew I HAD to own it! Being the proud owner of two other TT titles, I knew they would use an amazing print, as they have a reputation for obtaining the best available prints for their releases. I’m proud to say that they did just that....kinda. The print is amazing, with its clean picture and beautiful film grain. HOWEVER, If you compare it to the 1999 DVD print, you will notice that there are some differences. Yes, the Print used for the Blu Ray release is cleaner than that used for the DVD. You no longer see all the dirt, and film-gunk. But the print is also significantly darker, and the color is all wrong. This really isn’t a huge deal for me. I mean I'm not going to lose sleep over it. But it would have been nice had the color been corrected to the way it was presented on the DVD.
I’ve included two comparison stills below, as well as some other BR stills that give you an idea of the quality of the BR.

n conclusion, I am glad that I get to add the Blu Ray of this film to my collection. Even with the darker picture and oh-so-wrong color. It is absolutely one of my favorite films. A "Thank You" goes out to the people at Twilight Time / Screen Archives Entertainment for giving us this film in Blu Ray format. They may not have gotten it right this time, but they DID try. I know a lot of people are angry about this release, and it's completely understandable. Hopefully this will be a lesson-learned for T.T. I don't know if anything will be done to correct this issue, but hopefully the future titles that are to be released will not disappoint as this one apparently has.

Thanks Twilight Time, next time for sure you'll get it right!

[thephantomcat]

Originally Posted by iamsometal

You're turning this into a completely different argument. We're not talking about cost of manufacturing and TT's profit. We're talking about the price they're charging collectors for a bare-bones release. The fact is, TT charges a premium for a collectible disc. End of story.

By chance do you work for TT, or are friends with someone that does? Just wondering.

No. Oh, my God....

And it doesn't matter if it comes with no special features or 20 hours of special features. They have to keep the lights on and that what detirmines the price. Special features are extras and were first intended to attract consumers to make the switch to a new format. Why do you think they are removing special features from DVDs and only including them on the Blu-rays? To entice people to switch. Twilight Time isn't trying to convert anyone. Besides, you were the one that brought up the issue of price.