Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print

[Tybo28]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Thank you! I don't know why they're continuing on arguing back and forth because, it's NOT going to resolve the matter. Twilight Time has already made an announcement to return the blu-rays for a full refund, or to keep it ( if they choose.) and move on. It's not the end of the world.....Yet! Some people just goes to the extremes! It's only a blu-ray movie. This isn't the first blu-ray release that was defected! There are more important issues that need to be addressed, and to be concerned about in the world than the NOTLD blu-ray.

Have to say...isn't this the "Night of the living dead 90" blu-ray forum?

[SilentNight]

Originally Posted by Tybo28

First of all, i think if you're going to be a high priced label, 5 minutes of research isn't gonna kill you... and it goes both ways. They deserve no credit for any decent release they've had. Everyone should be thanking the studios. Twilight time had nothing to do with it. Too bad Echo bridge couldn't have released this at 1/6 of the price, cause it seems both labels have about the same level of involvement and added features.

I couldn't agree more with this. Hell, I watched Phantoms on Blu-Ray last night on the same disc as Darkness and Venom and to my eyes on a 120" screen, it looked good. Echo Bridge gets a bad rap but I must say, for more "bargain" titles I don't mind only dropping $6 to $10. Night of the Living Dead falls into this category as well but unfortunately the only way to get this was through TT limited Edition. Which most of us did and now we have a messed up $35 investment.

I just hope there is an exchange program at some point in the near future.

[KrugStillo]

I'm just curious how TT will even be able to afford a full scale recall/remaster on one of their titles. I'd be willing to bet Sony's contract with them has an "as is" clause somewhere. You know a big studio is gonna protect themselves from that sort of thing. Honesly though if I have to live with it I guess I can. I didn't even realise anything was wrong with it until I read this thread. I did notice that it was a bit dark but that happens to plenty of other reissues so what can you do. I won't be returning it though (unless there is a replacement). I'd rather have a retimed blu-ray than a crappy DVD anyday. Especially considering I never owned the DVD. Oh well I guess we wait and see what happens. Plus regardless of the fact that Tom Savini directed it I really see this as a job for hire for him. I doubt, sadly, that his opinion will matter much to Sony. I'm sure they hold all the cards in this matter.

[xiaNaix]

Originally Posted by Yankees0222

A "shitty" transfer that they are willing to take back for a full refund (aka a "shitty" transfer you can also put up on eBay and double what you spent on it). It's not like you're stuck with the movie. If you are unhappy with the changes, get rid of it. No harm no foul. I just don't get all this anger towards the situation. Sure there's a letdown since many people were excited for this release. But to go on page after page fighting about it is pointless at this point.

If you want to keep it, keep it. If you don't, send it back or sell it. Complaining about it on a forum board isn't going to do a whole lot.

Yeah, that's a great attitude. Let's look at the facts here.

1. Twilight time announces an expensive "limited edition" Blu-Ray of Tom Savini's 1990 Night of the Living Dead.

2. 3000 copies of the disc sell out quickly.

3. Copies begin to ship and word spreads that the film has been altered with new color correction. Most scenes look entirely different than every version released in the last 22 years, including the original theatrical print approved by the filmmakers.

4. Twilight Time dismisses the situation, saying the version released was given to them by Sony and was "obviously" signed off by the director.

5. Tom Savini is confirmed to have been unaware of the situation by Don May Jr. of Synapse Films after reading complaints on various forums.

6. Twilight Time promises refunds to anyone who is not satisfied with their purchase but does not seem to think there is anything wrong with the print and a recall or re-release does not seem likely.

The disc was marketed directly to fans of the film as a limited edition. First Twilight Time denied there was anything wrong with the disc. Then more screenshots were posted by fans of the film and they announced there would be an investigation but the director must have signed off on these changes. Then fans contacted Tom Savini, who knew nothing about it. Fans then noticed that even the trailer on Twilight Time's own disc does not have the modified color palette. The fact is that, all the while, Twilight Time has only been reacting to what the fans have uncovered. I think fans have every right to be angry here.

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by SilentNight

I couldn't agree more with this. Hell, I watched Phantoms on Blu-Ray last night on the same disc as Darkness and Venom and to my eyes on a 120" screen, it looked good. Echo Bridge gets a bad rap but I must say, for more "bargain" titles I don't mind only dropping $6 to $10. Night of the Living Dead falls into this category as well but unfortunately the only way to get this was through TT limited Edition. Which most of us did and now we have a messed up $35 investment.

I just hope there is an exchange program at some point in the near future.

Also, at least Echo Bridge fixes their mistakes, like re-releasing 2.35:1 films that were originally released by them on BD in 1.78:1 in their proper aspect ratios. Granted, they don't do recalls or anything like that, but their titles are so cheap, it's not really a big deal. TT is a huge rip-off company built for suckers who want anything "limited" no matter the quality of the product.

[thephantomcat]

Originally Posted by xiaNaix

5. Tom Savini is confirmed to have been unaware of the situation by Don May Jr. of Synapse Films after reading complaints on various forums.

I haven't seen any official statement from Tom Savini. Don't present hearsay as "facts".

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by xiaNaix

Yeah, that's a great attitude. Let's look at the facts here.

1. Twilight time announces an expensive "limited edition" Blu-Ray of Tom Savini's 1990 Night of the Living Dead.

2. 3000 copies of the disc sell out quickly.

3. Copies begin to ship and word spreads that the film has been altered with new color correction. Most scenes look entirely different than every version released in the last 22 years, including the original theatrical print approved by the filmmakers.

4. Twilight Time dismisses the situation, saying the version released was given to them by Sony and was "obviously" signed off by the director.

5. Tom Savini is confirmed to have been unaware of the situation by Don May Jr. of Synapse Films after reading complaints on various forums.

6. Twilight Time promises refunds to anyone who is not satisfied with their purchase but does not seem to think there is anything wrong with the print and a recall or re-release does not seem likely.

And????? People make mistakes, nobody is perfect (including you) because we don't live in a perfect world. Periodically, there are going to be imperfections made in all professional walks of life, and it's time to start realizing it.

[xiaNaix]

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

I haven't seen any official statement from Tom Savini. Don't present hearsay as "facts".

I never said Tom Savini made a statement, did I? I said he was contact by Don May Jr of Synapse Films, who is a very reliable source, and was unaware of the situation. Unless, of course, you're insinuating that Don May is not reliable and is lying about calling Tom.

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by KrugStillo

I'm just curious how TT will even be able to afford a full scale recall/remaster on one of their titles.

They won't.

[Yankees0222]

Originally Posted by xiaNaix

Yeah, that's a great attitude. Let's look at the facts here.

1. Twilight time announces an expensive "limited edition" Blu-Ray of Tom Savini's 1990 Night of the Living Dead.

2. 3000 copies of the disc sell out quickly.

3. Copies begin to ship and word spreads that the film has been altered with new color correction. Most scenes look entirely different than every version released in the last 22 years, including the original theatrical print approved by the filmmakers.

4. Twilight Time dismisses the situation, saying the version released was given to them by Sony and was "obviously" signed off by the director.

5. Tom Savini is confirmed to have been unaware of the situation by Don May Jr. of Synapse Films after reading complaints on various forums.

6. Twilight Time promises refunds to anyone who is not satisfied with their purchase but does not seem to think there is anything wrong with the print and a recall or re-release does not seem likely.

The disc was marketed directly to fans of the film as a limited edition. First Twilight Time denied there was anything wrong with the disc. Then more screenshots were posted by fans of the film and they announced there would be an investigation but the director must have signed off on these changes. Then fans contacted Tom Savini, who knew nothing about it. Fans then noticed that even the trailer on Twilight Time's own disc does not have the modified color palette. The fact is that, all the while, Twilight Time has only been reacting to what the fans have uncovered. I think fans have every right to be angry here.

If you looked at my other post, I never said people don't have the right to be angry. And going to the source of the release was the right and appropriate call. Since TT and/or Sony are the only ones that can rectify the problem.

My point was that complaining about it on this forum for 100 pages is kid of a waste of time.... And to make the argument personal (which many on here have) is completely uncalled for.

The point of it all is that TT is willing to give a refund (regardless of what they said minutes after the complaints started coming in). If you don't like their solution, that's one thing.... But a lot of people are saying "we spent $35 on a shitty transfer" but you can easily get that money back. That's where my post was mainly directed towards.

[Ill_Be_Back]

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

I haven't seen any official statement from Tom Savini. Don't present hearsay as "facts".

Please.....

[thephantomcat]

Originally Posted by xiaNaix

I never said Tom Savini made a statement, did I? I said he was contact by Don May Jr of Synapse Films, who is a very reliable source, and was unaware of the situation. Unless, of course, you're insinuating that Don May is not reliable and is lying about calling Tom.

So Don May Jr is his spokeperson? He represents Mr. Savini?

[therock666]

should be getting my copy today it says it departed usps sort facilty sept 30th which was a sunday in a city two hours away but no new tracking info but there scanners probably havent updated for this morning yet.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

So Don May Jr is his spokeperson? He represents Mr. Savini?

[Jompa]

This is not the first time the colours have been changed on a film on Blu-ray. Aliens and the newly released restored version The Terminator comes to mind.

[thephantomcat]

Originally Posted by Ill_Be_Back

Please.....

Earlier someone was claiming that Twilight Time was recalling the movie and exchaning it for corrected copies. And that guy was joking, but we're supposed to take the word of some guy who talked to a guy who read a forum and said "Blue" as a "confirmed he was unaware." Journalists need at least two confirmed sources before they can run a story, but this guy gets a pass cause of what a friend of a friend said after reading a forum?

[Ill_Be_Back]

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

So Don May Jr is his spokeperson? He represents Mr. Savini?

Please......Stop

[KrugStillo]

Originally Posted by PuppetMasterBlu

They won't.

That seems to be the consensus around here. To bad really but what are my options really. I can get rid of it and then not have it at all (DVD doesn't count) or keep it and just live with it. It's kind of awful to say that at least it isn't a sync problem. I tend to be bothered more by movies being out of sync than some alterations to the image (not that I want them just that the sync thing takes away from the movie more for me). I do think it's pretty apparent though that this was not a "mistake'. This was definitely deliberate on someone's part during the transfer. It's not that easy to completely alter the color scheme of a master. That takes time and energy so someone at Sony either just did what they were told or went George Lucas on us.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by thephantomcat

I haven't seen any official statement from Tom Savini. Don't present hearsay as "facts".

Tt present the fact that comparisons and screenshots are inaccurate. Based on actually having the disc and the DVD I can say their fact is less factual than Don May speaking to SavinI about it.

[thephantomcat]

Originally Posted by Ill_Be_Back

......Stop

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