Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print

[Kryptonic]

Originally Posted by Lyris

If there is any error, it's during grading, and that's almost impossible given the QC steps. The real truth will be that they've applied a new look which people aren't accepting. If discussions about it revolve around "is this a mistake or not", well, there's people's opinion of the new look right there.

Gladiator.

[duggie walker]

Originally Posted by Flex Mentallo

Finally got a chance to watch this. Yes it is dark and yes it intentional. The caps however don't give a true representation of the film in motion. This isn't a horrible image at all and I'm sure we've all seen worse. With a 3000 disc run this blu ray is as good as it's gonna get so we either accept it or return it for a refund. Frankly that's more than fair.

3.5 stars for pq
3.5 stars for audio

Totally agree with this. It's a decision someone's made. The various levels of tint differ depending on the scenes. In motion - as is virtually always the case - it doesn't look anywhere near as bad as the screenshots, which are frozen frames with no motion to distract you from the grading.

That being said, applying the tint to the earlier scenes doesn't really work as it's clearly a sunny day. The effect is actually rather old-fashioned, like many a low-budget horror film. It isn't unbearable, just a bit unnecessary. Once the moon comes out, everything works fine.

I'd be very surprised if there was a recall on this and I'll be happy enough to keep mine. Still, I lament the ease with which films can now be re-graded. We'll see a lot more of this and worse, I fear.

[Kryptonic]

This is basically just as bad as Ted Turner colorizing Casablanca. People with no real knowledge of the particular film "modernizing" it for no good reason that only serves to piss off the real fans of the film.

[antmumford]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

This is basically just as bad as Ted Turner colorizing Casablanca. People with no real knowledge of the particular film "modernizing" it for no good reason that only serves to piss off the real fans of the film.

Hear hear. Wish Blu-ray.com had a "like" button cos after all these posts it would be a hell of a lot easier to see how many people agree with certain posts people write.

[AndrewFM]

Guys why do you think they're called Twilight Time???

The response to this whole affair has been embaressing. I'm guessing no one will be putting out Christine or The Blob after this.

[Ill_Be_Back]

I hope we hear something back today....

[David M]

Originally Posted by tele1962

So David it looks like this was done purposely, is it ever the case where film transfers/Authoring to Blu Ray are done without the consultation of the Director/Cinematographer?

Yes, that can happen. But it's been my experience that, if nobody who worked on the film is present, the colorist will generally not do anything radical to the footage. So, I would assume this new look has been asked for by someone.

Gladiator.

Not sure what's meant by your post, but yes, the first BD of Gladiator looked like ass. It wasn't a mistake though. It was just an underwhelming master being served up.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by retablo

I don't mind the Children of Paradise disc. I think it looks quite lovely, and some reviews have been unjustly harsh. It's not perfect, but its still the best it's ever looked.

I agree to an extent, that the restoration took every nick, scoff and every imperfection away, but the black levels are no where, the entire movie looks like it was shot in murky mud teal. compare that to say the 4K restoration of 'In Which We Serve' and it makes the 'Children of Paradise' restoration look lackluster at best.

[Dickieduvet]

Holy shizzle!!

Mine just popped through my letter box, Not bad since it wasn't shipped till Thursday evening..My orders from the UK don't arrive that quick and I'm in the UK!!!!

Gonna go spin this now.......

[Arkadin]

Originally Posted by tele1962

is it ever the case where film transfers/Authoring to Blu Ray are done without the consultation of the Director/Cinematographer?

you mean like all the time, except in very special circumstances--Spielberg, Cameron, etc. etc.

[Ill_Be_Back]

Both finally shipped, can't wait to see if NOTLD really looks that dark. I hope not...

[AndrewFM]

Originally Posted by Dickieduvet

Holy shizzle!!

Mine just popped through my letter box, Not bad since it wasn't shipped till Thursday evening..My orders from the UK don't arrive that quick and I'm in the UK!!!!

Gonna go spin this now.......

Was that just your ordinary postal delivery? Or was it UPS? And did you pay for quick delivery or just standard? Mine also shipped on thursday and has yet to arrive.

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by AndrewFM

Was that just your ordinary postal delivery? Or was it UPS? And did you pay for quick delivery or just standard? Mine also shipped on thursday and has yet to arrive.

Mine shipped Thursday, normal delivery, and it arrived this morning from the normal RM fella.

[UNCMT9]

Originally Posted by AndrewFM

Guys why do you think they're called Twilight Time???

The response to this whole affair has been embaressing. I'm guessing no one will be putting out Christine or The Blob after this.

Agreed on that account, but I still believe all future horror titles will sell out considering they're at 3,000 units. Problem is, with all this sink, they may opt out of the horror genre.

[Ill_Be_Back]

Originally Posted by Dickieduvet

Holy shizzle!!

Mine just popped through my letter box, Not bad since it wasn't shipped till Thursday evening..My orders from the UK don't arrive that quick and I'm in the UK!!!!

Gonna go spin this now.......

Would like to hear what you think about the filter. Is it strong?

[Dickieduvet]

Yep, Normal delivery, The type where you had to agree that if it went missing it was tough shat!!!

Watched the first 25 Mins and skipped through the rest, It is way too dark from all previous versions but it's hardly dark blue like some of the caps I've seen, Checked it on all my TV settings (60" THX Plasma) none of them come close to correcting the brightness. Even the interiors when they switch the lights on it's still way, Way too dark

I'll be keeping it but hopefully 3 years down the road someone else might put it out or we might get a release from another territory, Germany put out a huge amount of genre titles, So fingers crossed we will eventually get it as intended and as we are used to.

[Whirlygig]

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

I also take issue with goofnuts caps. I have this one in particular:

http://postimage.org/image/nj7fbcznl/

displayed side by side with the disc itself (both displaying on my calibrated Panasonic GT30), and the image on the disc is not as dark. In the cap, it's almost impossible to pick out detail and colour in Barbara's cheek or hair, whilst on the disc both are clear. The filter is still obvious, but the disc is much brighter than that cap suggests

Can you explain how you are displaying them side by side simultaneously, on your TV?

The only way I know of to achieve this would be to use a PC connected to the TV, and open the frame grab in one window and your Blu-ray playback software in another and line them up. Is that what you're doing? If so, I suggest you look in your Blu-ray playback software, and graphics card configuration control panel, for ALL color/brightness settings. Playback software can have its own internal adjustments which apply only to it, and believe it or not video cards also can have separate adjustments for video, which they can apply only to chunks of the screen that are displaying video layers, while displaying surrounding static screen contents with another set of settings.

Or if by side-by-side you just mean you have the JPG loaded on one source (ie, computer) and the disc on another source (Blu-ray player) and are flipping back and forth, then surely you are aware that each source to your TV requires its own calibration profile on your TV (or on itself; a computer usually allows you to do this more flexibly than an optical disc player) if they are to match one another.

[Ill_Be_Back]

Originally Posted by Dickieduvet

Watched the first 25 Mins and skipped through the rest, It is way too dark from all previous versions but it's hardly dark blue like some of the caps I've seen, Checked it on all my TV settings (60" THX Plasma) none of them come close to correcting the brightness. Even the interiors when they switch the lights on it's still way, Way too dark

I'll be keeping it but hopefully 3 years down the road someone else might put it out or we might get a release from another territory, Germany put out a huge amount of genre titles, So fingers crossed we will eventually get it as intended and as we are used to.

Damn wasn't what I wanted to hear. Thanks anyway, glad I kept the DVD now...

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by Whirlygig

Can you explain how you are displaying them side by side simultaneously, on your TV?

The only way I know of to achieve this would be to use a PC connected to the TV, and open the frame grab in one window and your Blu-ray playback software in another and line them up. Is that what you're doing? If so, I suggest you look in your Blu-ray playback software, and graphics card configuration control panel, for ALL color/brightness settings. Playback software can have its own internal adjustments which apply only to it, and believe it or not video cards also can have separate adjustments for video, which they can apply only to chunks of the screen that are displaying video layers, while displaying surrounding static screen contents with another set of settings.

Or if by side-by-side you just mean you have the JPG loaded on one source (ie, computer) and the disc on another source (Blu-ray player) and are flipping back and forth, then surely you are aware that each source to your TV requires its own calibration profile on your TV if they are to match one another.

I was using the first method you described. I understand your points, and reassess my comments to acknowledge that there may very well be nothing wrong with goofnuts caps.

I'll say instead that for the reasons you detailed above, using ANY caps for comparison, even when they are captured faithfully, is utterly pointless if there is such an extreme level of difference between how a graphics card, and Blu-ray software, render an image. I'm sure they can be calibrated to be the same, but I doubt many people here bother.

[#Darren]

Originally Posted by UNCMT9

Agreed on that account, but I still believe all future horror titles will sell out considering they're at 3,000 units. Problem is, with all this sink, they may opt out of the horror genre.

I doubt it, it has been their bread and butter thus far.