Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print

[dantexaiver]

not to thread jack but any Home Discs to use to help Calibrate your tv? which one is best

[AndrewFM]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

The exact date they sold is to the right of the ending price.

I know, but I'm too lazy to count, especially since I don't know when the first reviews came on (I think it was September 27th or 28th) and some of those BDs listed are different Nights of the Living Dead - the 68 one or the REANIMATION one.

[HyperRealist]

Originally Posted by dantexaiver

not to thread jack but any Home Discs to use to help Calibrate your tv? which one is best

imo this one
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Spear...-Blu-ray/4831/

[BJQ1972]

Originally Posted by HyperRealist

imo this one
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Spear...-Blu-ray/4831/

Disney WOW is very good too.

[PuppetMasterBlu]

Originally Posted by Whirlygig

I hear that, but I believe time will equalize much of that. It's going to have some value in the short term while this all settles out, but in the long run I'm going to be surprised if copies continue demanding much more than its initial price, or anywhere near the other sold-out TT titles. Especially after the 3-year contract when someone else releases it. If I end up being wrong about that, it may be time to sell my copy, assuming nobody takes me up on trading Fright Night for it.

Well right now the market is flooded but once things dry up a little you will see them either staying around 70-80 or actually going up a bit. Will it ever go up to 150 like Fright Night? Doubtful simply because Fright Night was a much better film. I don't think some blur tint(who for some bizarre reason is loved by the director) is going to put off some rabid fan.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by dantexaiver

not to thread jack but any Home Discs to use to help Calibrate your tv? which one is best

There are some things involving the Service Menu and professional equipment that only a certified ISF'er should do, but for home-calibration I've used both the DVE and the Spears and Munsil calibration BD's across several sets and they work fine. I'd go with the Spears and Munsil BD personally.

Also, it hugely helps to find the specific calibration thread for your make and model over at AVSforum and read up on the experiences others are having with your set. There are some things you'll learn over there (specifics regarding how your set treats and adjusts refresh rates, etc.) that you would not be able to discover or understand from the basic home calibration discs.

[Whirlygig]

Originally Posted by PuppetMasterBlu

Well right now the market is flooded but once things dry up a little you will see them either staying around 70-80 or actually going up a bit. Will it ever go up to 150 like Fright Night? Doubtful simply because Fright Night was a much better film. I don't think some blur tint(who for some bizarre reason is loved by the director) is going to put off some rabid fan.

$70 or so is about twice original value, I guess I don't see that as being abnormal for an OOP item just because of the fact that it's OOP. But yes, to reach $150 there will have to be a lot of fans, with that kind of money, who want it just for the sake that it's on Blu-ray or that it's NOTLD or TT. Criterion's Third Man obviously has so many fans, and that was pressed in way larger numbers I imagine -- but then again that is a cinematic classic regarded as a masterpiece and a must-own by almost every serious film collector on the planet, had an acclaimed transfer, and there are apparently many more CC than TT collectors.

[BJQ1972]

Originally Posted by AndrewFM

That's what I said. Crybabies exaggerating for a replacement they knew wasn't going to come unless it was truly "defective".

It IS very different to the DVD but it is also fairly obvious that it is not an error, and that someone decided to make these changes. I think it looks fine.

[RogerMathus]

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

For many films, I believe that's plausible.

However, this is a different case altogether. There are portions of this film that clearly take place under a blazing sun and are intended to be bright and sunny. This hasn't been just "slightly" tweaked here; it has been changed so greatly that it now appears to take place at dusk. This makes absolutely no sense... the sun is in the sky and the birds are chirping away during these portions. Then, many shadow detail that were once so clearly visible in other places have now been crushed away almost entirely.

It isn't a slight differentiation. It is a night and day difference.

Pun wicked intended.

If you examine the sky it seems to be cloudy bright with varying shades of grey and little to no blue. This type of sky can cause shadows to be cast. Upon close examination of the first 12 minutes the picture seems to darken gradually after about the five minute mark. If dusk is approaching this can be believable but I feel that the scenes after the five minute mark were likely darkened in the mastering process. My impression was that the sun was filtered by clouds. I could not believe "blazing sun" given the grey sky even in the opening minutes as the car drives up to the cemetery.

[Blu Titan]

Please do not call each other names. Present your opinion in a polite manner, respond to other's views likewise. If you want to disagree with Twilight Time...fine as it is a company, but do not personally attack the owners of Twilight Time. Make your point and move on...no further warnings as short suspensions wil be issued.

Believe me when I post that none of the moderators enjoy reviewing page after page of back and forth bickering. Thank you.

[wormraper]

this thread keeps returning from the dead

[kinggoji]

Is it wrong for me to say that I get perverse sense of enjoyment seeing all this bickering back and forth? Some of these discussion threads here at Blu Ray.com never fail to amuse me and are always good for a laugh.

[psicon]

Originally Posted by kinkyqueen

Did everyone who did not notice all the 'darkness' and 'Smurfs' see it on a Panasonic plasma?

I got a Panasonic plasma and did not see it. Who's with me?

you have the capability to make an animated gif. Is it safe to assume you have the capability to take uncompressed screenshots. Much has been made of inaccuracies in previously posted shots. It'd be nice to have some from a source that refutes the accuracy.

[Daemonia]

Savini approves. So what? Whoop-de-doo. He's fundamentally wrong, as he's always talked about how he actually liked the bright, daylight look of the opening act. Why is he changing his opinion now? Beats me. I stand by what I say, to introduce darkness before the sun actually sets in the film is idiotic.

We'll be seeing this released in other territories at some point, of this I have no doubt. A demand has now been created for the original film -as it always has been- on BD that wasn't there before. Distributors in other territories will catch wind of this and if they pony up the money and ask for the 'original' version, Sony will happily hand it over. Their only contractual obligation is not to release in North America for 3 years - the rest of the world is fair game, and it's a BIG market out there outside the USA.

As I say, a demand has now been created for the original on BD that wasn't there previously. And I can't believe that this is yet another film where we have to talk about 'old' and 'new' versions. It's crazy. Revisionism should be illegal. So is Savini saying his film was never good enough until Sony meddled with it? Thanks, Tom, but we all liked it just the way it was.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by mzupeman

Director of photography was involved and Savini loves it. Im good.

Yeah, those statements pretty much end the speculation. This is the way they want it, and there will be no exchange program.

To continue to visit this thread and complain about it is the equivalent of going to the Star Wars thread and complaining about the changes George made to the SW films.

It's pointless to keep arguing about it.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by BJQ1972

I believe that many of the screen caps and photos on this thread have been doctored in an attempt to discredit TT. Quite frankly what some people have been posting here is an absolute disgrace.

Sorry but I don't believe this is true at all. Some of the screen caps are taken directly off of the disc and thus accurately represent what's actually on the blu-ray. The way you see the images can be affected by the settings on your display or a multitude of other external factors. That doesn't make the images inaccurate or doctored.

The pictures posted where people used cameras to capture an image from their display could be an inaccurate representation of the blu-ray. The color in those images can be affected by a multitude of external factors including the camera itself and the settings on the individual's display. However, I don't think people are intentionally doctoring photos as you suggest.

Why you you feel this is the case and why do people keep posting these false accusations? Do you have evidence that people have purposefully doctored images or is this solely based on your assumption because you don't agree with their opinion? These false accusations can also be considered a disgrace; food for thought.

[Captain Mal]

Just watched the first 20 minutes and I'm not liking this bd at all. The "new look" is so unnaturally dark ... looks like someone turned down the brightness setting on my TV. Definitely do not agree with Tom Savini. Vudu's HDX version will be what I watch from now on. Leaning towards putting this disc on e-bay eventually, but not while the market is flooded with them.

[John D.]

Well, after reading page after page of bad reviews I was almost afraid to watch this Blu-ray. Last night I did watch it myself to see what all the negativity was all about. First of all, I have never seen the original dvd of this, so I had no comparison expectations. After seeing this for the first time, I agree there were some dark scenes, but being a first time viewer, I was not offended by this release. I will keep mine.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Please do not call each other names. Present your opinion in a polite manner, respond to other's views likewise. If you want to disagree with Twilight Time...fine as it is a company, but do not personally attack the owners of Twilight Time. Make your point and move on...no further warnings as short suspensions wil be issued.

Believe me when I post that none of the moderators enjoy reviewing page after page of back and forth bickering. Thank you.

Very level headed and agree that there is no need to call any one names even if someone disagrees with another persons opinion.

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Yeah, those statements pretty much end the speculation. This is the way they want it, and there will be no exchange program.

To continue to visit this thread and complain about it is the equivalent of going to the Star Wars thread and complaining about the changes George made to the SW films.

It's pointless to keep arguing about it.

It's definitely clear that there won't be a recall and this is as intended. Atleast people now have an answer whether they agree with it or not. I've tried to read all of the posts but didn't see this posted here but here is TT's latest post on the situation.

Twilight Time DVD Label
UPDATE: As promised, we have discussed NOTLD at the studio and are able to verify via SPE's Mastering Department, that our Blu-ray is indeed the approved transfer from 2010, generated for the film's 20th anniversary, and done in consultation with the film's director of photography. As you will have also seen on this page and elsewhere on the internet, director Tom Savini has now had a chance to vi...ew the end product and declared it "fantastic." As we are aware that some fans of the film will remain disappointed, our offer of a full refund still stands if you wish to return your copy. However, we would caution you with this thought: this is a limited edition run of 3,000 copies, and the title is sold out. Right or wrong, it is a collector's item, and there are no guarantees this title will ever be repressed. Going forward, if TT encounters another situation where the new transfer differs greatly from the old, we will bring that to collectors' attention prior to the disc being offered so that you may know of the changes beforehand. Thanks for all your support.

Best,

Nick Redman and Brian Jamieson.

It appears atleast something good came out of this. According to TT they will now inform customers in advance if similar changes have occured before the item becomes available.

I would still love to see a separate TT web site that lists all of the titles they have released with specs and advance screen shots (and back cover art). I think this would help alleviate some of the issues about TT, the confusion of SAE and TT, and where their titles can be obtained from.

Any chance TT's FB response I quoted above can be posted to the OP of this thread?

[Monroville]

But it's our God-given right to complain!

Daemonia: just let us know in the thread when you're ready to start work on an alternative.