Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print - Page 257 - Blu-ray Forum

EddieLarkin · 10-03-2012, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by UNCMT9

I see a significance. If one has never seen it in theater or a different format, it may not look bad to them. Once again, some casual fans of the film have made it clear that they didn't experience a whole lot of blue. If they are viewing for the first time and/or have no other benchmark for comparison, they're not going to be as dissatisfied.

Although I'm not a huge fan of the film itself, I am very familiar with it and its old colour timing and brightness. I've seen it on DVD and television countless times.

Yet my experience of the Blu-ray wasn't a blue one, or a particularly dark one. Altered from the DVD sure, but nothing major as some would make out.

UNCMT9 · 10-03-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bboisvert

But my point was specifically for whitesheik. It seems like he has the same response either way...

"You didn't see it theatrically? Then you don't know what it looked like!"

"You did see it theatrically? Well, that was 22 years ago and you've seen it at home much more. You don't remember what it looked like!"

If he's going to have the same reaction either way, the question isn't relevant.

Got ya.

EddieLarkin · 10-03-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperRealist

I want to know how the audio experts at TT let a film pass with missing sound effects.

It's not up to them to do QC on a Sony-approved remix, which will have already gone through countless QC checks.

The fact is there are hundreds of films out there with missing or altered sound effects when they've been remixed to 5.1. It happens all the time and is not an unusual occurrence.

Most of the time it goes unnoticed. The Terminator and Conan the Barbarian Blu-rays have completely f***ed 5.1 remixes, yet this sites reviews make no mention of the numerous revisions, alterations and mistakes made on them. It's a little unfair I think that they've singled out the NOLTD remix for criticism, whilst ignoring much worse examples.

Chloenator · 10-03-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

Although I'm not a huge fan of the film itself, I am very familiar with it and its old colour timing and brightness. I've seen it on DVD and television countless times.

Yet my experience of the Blu-ray wasn't a blue one, or a particularly dark one. Altered from the DVD sure, but nothing major as some would make out.

Yeah, I don't think this transfer is as bad as a lot of people are making it out to be. Sure, it is much darker than the previous DVD release, but I don't really mind it, to be honest. I'm going to keep my copy. People are making a HUGE fuss over this release and acting like babies that I have to laugh at them. There are quite a few drama queens on this forum. lol

whitesheik · 10-03-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bboisvert

But my point was specifically for whitesheik. It seems like he has the same response either way...

"You didn't see it theatrically? Then you don't know what it looked like!"

"You did see it theatrically? Well, that was 22 years ago and you've seen it at home much more. You don't remember what it looked like!"

If he's going to have the same reaction either way, the question isn't relevant.

I asked because it's relevant when someone is stating that this differs from the theatrical version, which the review states, if I'm remembering it correctly.

There's only one way any of this will get settled and I posted that pages and pages ago: I would like to see a release print now. That's the only way anyone would know, to see a release print now. Not a DVD, not a VHS, not Vudu - a release print. Then a statement can be made. As it stands, that statement (that this transfer differs from the release prints), has not been made by either the director or the cameraman.

mayorofsmpleton · 10-03-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fragile Line

Yeah, I don't think this transfer is as bad as a lot of people are making it out to be. Sure, it is much darker than the previous DVD release, but I don't really mind it, to be honest. I'm going to keep my copy. People are making a HUGE fuss over this release and acting like babies that I have to laugh at them. There are quite a few drama queens on this forum. lol

It's more about respect for the art of film-making and messing with the integrity of a film as it was meant to be seen.

I'm keeping mine because Savini approved of the changes -- but it bothers me it was done. He didn't MAKE those changes and just like the notes on the release stated... the intended effect was originally to have the bright and sunny opening CONTRAST the horror later... also missing is the intended 'yellow' look they were going for. Again, a contrast to the typically 'grey' 'blue' look of zombies in most horror films.

The film isn't as it was originally made and while I'm bothered by that it's still a decent transfer and likely the best we'll get for the next decade. I'll keep my DVD as a purist and my copy but I reserve the right to be bothered. I'm just glad it isn't one of my favorite films. That complaint is reserved for THE TERMINATOR which has yet to get a decent release with the original mono track (or a 5.1 with the correct sound effects...).

bboisvert · 10-03-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by whitesheik

I asked because it's relevant when someone is stating that this differs from the theatrical version, which the review states, if I'm remembering it correctly.

There's only one way any of this will get settled and I posted that pages and pages ago: I would like to see a release print now. That's the only way anyone would know, to see a release print now. Not a DVD, not a VHS, not Vudu - a release print. Then a statement can be made. As it stands, that statement (that this transfer differs from the release prints), has not been made by either the director or the cameraman.

Again, I mentioned that I had seen it theatrically this presentation differs. And you dismissed my observations. I don't see why you now think that his are relevant.

But, you apparently do think it's possible that the theatrical presentation matches this blu. That defies all logic, plain and simple. That would mean that every other previous video release has been radically different (not this single one)... and that no one in the world remembers that or has ever mentioned it for the past 2 decades. There were still obsessive video folks in the early 90s. And Usenet discussion groups that tore these things apart. And Video Watchdog. And the Laserdisc newsletter. And...

I'll go with Occam's razor on this one and just acknowledge that the color timing has been radically altered. But if you want to go in a different direction, have at it.

Whirlygig · 10-03-2012, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bboisvert

Again, I mentioned that I had seen it theatrically this presentation differs. And you dismissed my observations. I don't see why you now think that his are relevant.

By the time he said this:

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Originally Posted by whitesheik

I asked because it's relevant when someone is stating that this differs from the theatrical version, which the review states, if I'm remembering it correctly.

I figured his MO was basically to attempt to attack the reviewer's credibility for making a statement that makes it sound like he saw it, and may not have. Not that he was actually interested in the subject, just in catching a "lie".

Of course, a person doesn't have to have seen it with their own eyes in order to make the statement that it differs and not be lying, but apparently that's neither here nor there?

thephantomcat · 10-03-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mayorofsmpleton

It's more about respect for the art of film-making and messing with the integrity of a film as it was meant to be seen.

I'm keeping mine because Savini approved of the changes -- but it bothers me it was done. He didn't MAKE those changes and just like the notes on the release stated...

But Frank Prinzi the direcor of photography did since he was consulted on the transfer for a 20th Anniverary release. Gald you're keeping your copy though. Also we'll always have the DVD.

HyperRealist · 10-03-2012, 11:11 PM

Everyone should buy The First Nudie Musical and Junior High School.

odriley · 10-03-2012, 11:11 PM

Just took my copy to walmart and got the vudu hd version for 2 bucks. Pretty damn good deal. Beats the 13 dollar full price on vudu. Im glad this walmart deal was mentioned. Thanks whoever that was.

Uncontrol · 10-03-2012, 11:12 PM

Can we all stop pretending we remember the color tinting of a movie we saw in theaters over 20 years ago?

It's really ridiculous.

HyperRealist · 10-03-2012, 11:13 PM

I don't think it'd too hard to remember if it was night or day.

Kryptonic · 10-03-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncontrol

Can we all stop pretending we remember the color tinting of a movie we saw in theaters over 20 years ago?

It's really ridiculous.

We remember the color timing of the VHS, DVD, and recently screened original film print - all of which have the same color timing and appearance.

I watched the DVD today. It looks fine upconverted.

thephantomcat · 10-03-2012, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncontrol

Can we all stop pretending we remember the color tinting of a movie we saw in theaters over 20 years ago?

It's really ridiculous.

Lemmy Lugosi · 10-03-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thephantomcat

But Frank Prinzi the direcor of photography did since he was consulted on the transfer for a 20th Anniverary release. Gald you're keeping your copy though. Also we'll always have the DVD.

Ah, thank you. Finally....a scapegoat for my wrath. I'm off to track him down.

Whirlygig · 10-03-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperRealist

I don't think it'd too hard to remember if it was night or day.

Especially when there is a commentary track in which the director discusses the fact that it is day, and explains why.

odriley · 10-03-2012, 11:18 PM

If you arent happy with people having memories, there was someone in this thread who mentioned many many pages ago that he saw a print of it in the theaters withim the last 5 years at a midnight show. Not sure who that was but they even said it waa the same coloring as the dvd, etc... releases. But im sure you guys will find a way to discredit that person too. Also hasnt it pretty much been confirmed that there was indeed a change to this version? Why are people trying to say it was once this way? All that matters anymore is that some people like it...some people hate it. Why attack anymore at this point?

Lemmy Lugosi · 10-03-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncontrol

Can we all stop pretending we remember the color tinting of a movie we saw in theaters over 20 years ago?

It's really ridiculous.

No, it's not. I recall it vividly. Especially the time I watched it with Savini (late 90's, Louisville, KY).

thephantomcat · 10-03-2012, 11:19 PM

par·am·ne·sia n.
1. A distortion of memory in which fantasy and objective experience are confused.

10-03-2012, 11:11 PM	#5130
HyperRealist Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:PA Blu-ray collection:110 DVD collection:96 Trading Score:48	Everyone should buy The First Nudie Musical and Junior High School.

10-03-2012, 11:11 PM	#5131
odriley Special Member Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:1126 Blu-ray collection:5723	Just took my copy to walmart and got the vudu hd version for 2 bucks. Pretty damn good deal. Beats the 13 dollar full price on vudu. Im glad this walmart deal was mentioned. Thanks whoever that was.

10-03-2012, 11:12 PM	#5132
Uncontrol Expert Member Member since:Nov 2009 Blu-ray collection:3	Can we all stop pretending we remember the color tinting of a movie we saw in theaters over 20 years ago? It's really ridiculous.

10-03-2012, 11:13 PM	#5133
HyperRealist Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:PA Blu-ray collection:110 DVD collection:96 Trading Score:48	I don't think it'd too hard to remember if it was night or day.

10-03-2012, 11:18 PM	#5138
odriley Special Member Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:1126 Blu-ray collection:5723	If you arent happy with people having memories, there was someone in this thread who mentioned many many pages ago that he saw a print of it in the theaters withim the last 5 years at a midnight show. Not sure who that was but they even said it waa the same coloring as the dvd, etc... releases. But im sure you guys will find a way to discredit that person too. Also hasnt it pretty much been confirmed that there was indeed a change to this version? Why are people trying to say it was once this way? All that matters anymore is that some people like it...some people hate it. Why attack anymore at this point?

10-03-2012, 11:19 PM	#5140
thephantomcat Expert Member Member since:Jul 2011 Blu-ray collection:445 DVD collection:302	par·am·ne·sia n. 1. A distortion of memory in which fantasy and objective experience are confused.

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