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Old 10-04-2012, 06:38 PM   #5361
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As someone who used to collect movie soundtracks a few years back, I'd buy stuff all the time as soon as it went up for presale from sites like Intrada and Varese Sarabande because I was afraid it would sell out. In some cases it would, but at least they always gave you some sound samples ahead of time so first of all you could sample what it sounded like if you were unfamiliar with it, but also if you were familiar with it but were curious about the audio quality. That's why I'm not a fan of Twilight Time doing this limited release presale stuff without any kind of indication to what the visual quality is. You have no clue. If a transfer has just been sitting around and all Twilight Time does is plop it on a disc, there's no reason they could'nt give a preview of what it looks like. It's not like it's not done. Luckily for me my first probable Twilight Time pick-up will be Major Dundee (of course that's dependant on if it contains the original score, the DVD had both the original score, and a newly composed one), a title that probably won't sell very well, at least to start out with, so I'll have a preaty good idea of what it''ll look like before getting it.

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Old 10-04-2012, 06:50 PM   #5362
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Yeah, I completely agree with you Klaus, and I've said it too somewhere..
It would be great if we got screenshots in each release!
I want to buy too eg. Christine, and will hurry in the first hour of pre-order, but what if it's messed up like this one?
(of course, even if they did put screenshots, they could avoid putting the controversial ones, se we're back to zero)

I always wait for reviews and screenshots of the Blurays I'm buying. I never buy them on "day 1" ( i see it's a regular expression here in this forum).
But with these limited editions you can't just wait for reviews..

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Old 10-04-2012, 06:56 PM   #5363
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Yeah, I completely agree with you Klaus, and I've said it too somewhere..
It would be great if we got screenshots in each release!
I want to buy too eg. Christine, and will hurry in the first hour of pre-order, but what about if it's messed up like this one?
(of course, even if they did put screenshots, they could avoid putting the controversial ones, se we're back to zero)

I always wait for reviews and screenshots of the Blurays I'm buying. I never buy them on "day 1" ( i see it's a regular expression here in this forum).
But with these limited editions you can't just wait for reviews..
I guess if your heart is set on buying it and you have the disposable income you should probably buy it. The hope would be that with all the negative feedback from the NOTLD blu ray, Twilight Time at the very least offers up a few screen caps from throughout the movie to give consumers an idea of what it will probably look like. If they wanted to go one step further maybe they could actually post an HD clip, or even give out some review copies before things go on presale so people can make an informed decision before buying something that will probalby sell out in a day or two.
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:08 PM   #5364
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Thanks for that review! Those blu ray screenshots makes me even more excited to see the blu ray!
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Old 10-04-2012, 07:46 PM   #5365
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Yeah, I completely agree with you Klaus, and I've said it too somewhere..
It would be great if we got screenshots in each release!
I want to buy too eg. Christine, and will hurry in the first hour of pre-order, but what if it's messed up like this one?
(of course, even if they did put screenshots, they could avoid putting the controversial ones, se we're back to zero)

I always wait for reviews and screenshots of the Blurays I'm buying. I never buy them on "day 1" ( i see it's a regular expression here in this forum).
But with these limited editions you can't just wait for reviews..
Nope, after this fiasco, I won't touch Christine with a ten-foot pole. You don't know what you're going to end up with.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:00 PM   #5366
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Nope, after this fiasco, I won't touch Christine with a ten-foot pole. You don't know what you're going to end up with.
well, this fiasco was kind of an exception. (along with a couple of others from Twilight time, but those were only because they didn't have a good master to begin with)

I have 4 Twilight time releases and all - except for Demetrius and the gladiators which falls in the above categoty i mentioned - are exceptional!!


but I think that, after this, maybe many will demand to see screenshots of Christine before the preorder..
Well, i at least, will ask about it in their facebook page when the time comes.

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Old 10-04-2012, 08:02 PM   #5367
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Nope, after this fiasco, I won't touch Christine with a ten-foot pole. You don't know what you're going to end up with.
I'd like to think we'll end up with a dope Blu-ray. Even though I hate the NOTLD disc, I love my Fright Night one and think (and hope) that NOTLD is an anomaly, not the new standard. Since Christine is my favorite of all 3 films, I'll still be ordering one for myself as a tie-breaker. If they F that up, then I'll surely be among the vocal leaders to boycott them. At least this will drive speculators away from Chrissy, although I'm sure it will sell out faster than Dead did anyway. Don't underestimate John Carpenter fans, there's more than 3000 of them who love this movie just like me.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:05 PM   #5368
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Was just notified of my refund. I'm out.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:09 PM   #5369
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After reading of this, I posted mine for a BIN price of $66.60 on ebay and it was purchased within a couple hours by someone in New York. I really don't know why you would want a refund on a sold out title unless it's broken or unsaleable? No harm, no foul for me. I almost doubled my investment. I will without a doubt bite on Christine when it goes up for pre-order.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:27 PM   #5370
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This is weird i have offered a good trade IMHO as i can not get hold of this release and yet people are saying they are gonna return or sell their copy, one guy even retuned i think 9 copies?
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:53 PM   #5371
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Hey gents, please do not discuss "ripping" or wanting to buy fan edits. Thanks.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:54 PM   #5372
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Sorry guy's don't want to kick of another argument (been enough of that already ). Just would love to be able to make my own mind up........and in doing so i am willing to let go one of my most prized Blu Ray's.
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Old 10-04-2012, 08:57 PM   #5373
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Horror fans are so gracious and considerate. Their patience and understanding know no end. How can Tom Savini have an attitude towards them? They're so respectful and pleasant.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:02 PM   #5374
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I don't want to start a war or be mean, but have you met Tom Savini in person? He is the biggest pompous ass I have ever encountered at a Horror Con, and that includes Bruce Campbell. He is so full of himself that it's sad and it really upset me because I have been a major fan for decades. Every single year he is here, he is an ass. He's notorious for it.

Back to that dead horse...
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:07 PM   #5375
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I see a lot of people, and a lot of reviews, mentioning how daft the new darkening is when the film already had a day-to-night montage 20 minutes in. Which I agree with obviously (though it still makes sense, since the montage now just looks like a dusk-to-night montage instead).

But it does correct something that I think never made sense before. The montage occurs about 25 minutes in, after Ben and Barbara first meet. Once it changes to night, nothing of consequence has happened. The current situation is exactly the same as before.

It feels like 15 minutes has passed, maybe 30. They've not explored the house, not secured it, and not removed or cleaned up the bodies inside. If we go by the old colour timing, apparently Ben and Barbara have just been sat there doing nothing for at least 3-4 hours, completely unmolested. For it to go from beaming sunshine to pitch darkness, at least that amount of time must have passed.

With the new colour, and thus new dusk-to-night montage, this missing time can now be interpreted as considerably less. It now makes sense for the beginning of the night segment to leave off almost exactly where the "dusk" segment ended.

No excuse for revisionism of course, but if you're going to take the time to point out how a revision makes less sense of something, you should also point out if it's making more sense of something else. Since, hey, there's a good chance that's why the revision was made in the first place.
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Nope, after this fiasco, I won't touch Christine with a ten-foot pole. You don't know what you're going to end up with.
True but it would be smart to buy it because it WILL sell out in pre-order, im guessing within a week. Buy it, keep it sealed and wait until reviews come out. If it turns out something else horrible like this happened you can either sell it for god knows how much OR you can still return it to Twilight because I think they have always accepted sealed returns. Really you can't lose on a purchase like this.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:22 PM   #5377
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I don't want to start a war or be mean, but have you met Tom Savini in person? He is the biggest pompous ass I have ever encountered at a Horror Con, and that includes Bruce Campbell. He is so full of himself that it's sad and it really upset me because I have been a major fan for decades. Every single year he is here, he is an ass. He's notorious for it.

Back to that dead horse...
Oh, I didn't say Tom wasn't mean. When did I say that? I implied that generally speaking horror fans aren't pleasant people. Here we have people calling him a liar, a hack, and that all he cares about is money. People saying that it doesn't matter what he thinks even though he's the one who directed movie. Imagine forty years of dealing with those kind of "fans."
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:23 PM   #5378
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:25 PM   #5379
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I see a lot of people, and a lot of reviews, mentioning how daft the new darkening is when the film already had a day-to-night montage 20 minutes in. Which I agree with obviously (though it still makes sense, since the montage now just looks like a dusk-to-night montage instead).

But it does correct something that I think never made sense before. The montage occurs about 25 minutes in, after Ben and Barbara first meet. Once it changes to night, nothing of consequence has happened. The current situation is exactly the same as before.

It feels like 15 minutes has passed, maybe 30. They've not explored the house, not secured it, and not removed or cleaned up the bodies inside. If we go by the old colour timing, apparently Ben and Barbara have just been sat there doing nothing for at least 3-4 hours, completely unmolested. For it to go from beaming sunshine to pitch darkness, at least that amount of time must have passed.

With the new colour, and thus new dusk-to-night montage, this missing time can now be interpreted as considerably less. It now makes sense for the beginning of the night segment to leave off almost exactly where the "dusk" segment ended.

No excuse for revisionism of course, but if you're going to take the time to point out how a revision makes less sense of something, you should also point out if it's making more sense of something else. Since, hey, there's a good chance that's why the revision was made in the first place.
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I don't want to start a war or be mean, but have you met Tom Savini in person? He is the biggest pompous ass I have ever encountered at a Horror Con, and that includes Bruce Campbell. He is so full of himself that it's sad and it really upset me because I have been a major fan for decades. Every single year he is here, he is an ass. He's notorious for it.

Back to that dead horse...
We only have your word for that.............anyway why does he keep being envited back. Don May quoted that he had been a friend of his for some 20 years.
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