Night of the Living Dead (1990) - Out of Print - Page 297 - Blu-ray Forum

Andrew Woo · 10-17-2012, 11:57 AM

Finally got my copy today.
The new/different transfer is a really mixed bag. Sometimes it really adds to the mood of the movie, sometimes one almost doesn't notice it and then there are moments where it definitely doesn't belong there.

ucfmatt · 10-17-2012, 04:45 PM

Saw the DVD for $8 at Wal Mart and decided to pick it up and do some comparisons. No need to post screenshots as we've all seen plenty but seeing the difference on my own display was still a little surprising.

What's interesting is that most of the discussion was about the transition from day to night during Act 1. However the color has been radically altered for pretty much every scene after that. Even the daytime scenes at the end display a heavy bluish tint when compared to the DVD. The DVD has a sort of grimy yet alive look with warm amber colors and skintones that really stand out against the interior of the farmhouse. The Blu pretty much kills that entirely and really reduces the overall range of colors.

It's a real shame too, because switching back and forth really showed how much better the Blu looked for detail and resolvable film grain not to mention audio clarity. Also had a more film like look due to less EE.

I'm glad some people like the changes. I wish there was a chance of getting the original transfer on blu but at least it's available to purchase in a digital form, and there's a halfway decent DVD in the OAR out so it could be worse all things considered.

Pondosinatra · 10-17-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by VaporX94

Heh. That's true, they are slow zombies. That's how I like my zombies, though.

...Back in the day, when they didn't run and actually wanted to "eat brains."

You kids and your fast zombies. Back in my day all we had were slow zombies and that was the way we liked it!

JoeDeM · 10-17-2012, 05:17 PM

I wonder if the differing opinions on the blue tint have anything thong to do with LCD vs LED.

this quote is about calibrating and has nothing to do with NOTLD90

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDTVtest Samsung UE40ES5500 LED LCD TV

Even before we took our Klein K-10 measuring device to the Samsung UE40ES5500′s screen, we could tell from eye that its images were tinted blue. That’s just because we’re used to looking at calibrated TVs, though, and most users will likely have few complaints. Although the tint is more extreme than we’d hoped for, an excess of blue is at least better than an excess of red or green.

By measuring test patterns while manipulating the [White Balance] controls, we were able to eliminate the blue tint – at least, with brighter shades (shown at the right of the graph above). We weren’t able to do anything about the blue-tinted shadow areas (shown left), because this is caused by the LED light sources themselves. On Samsung LCD televisions, the [White Balance] controls manipulate the colour of grey shades by making adjustments in the TV’s video processor chip, whereas the excess of blue in dark areas is caused by a physical characteristic (light from the LEDs leaking through in dark scenes). That also means that, the higher you have the [Backlight] control set, the more the blue tint will creep into brighter shades. This is a very common issue with LED LCD displays.

Pondosinatra · 10-17-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeDeM

I wonder if the differing opinions on the blue tint have anything thong to do with LCD vs LED.

this quote is about calibrating and has nothing to do with NOTLD90

Well I watched it on my widescreen tube and it had a blue tinge to it...

Mr Kite · 10-17-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeDeM

I wonder if the differing opinions on the blue tint have anything thong to do with LCD vs LED.

this quote is about calibrating and has nothing to do with NOTLD90

Correct calibration will have a profound effect on the image as i have already mentioned and all tv's Plasma, LCD etc would more than benefit from having this done.........as our excellent review mentions.

Pondosinatra · 10-17-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonpie

Correct calibration will have a profound effect on the image as i have already mentioned and all tv's Plasma, LCD etc would more than benefit from having this done.........as our excellent review mentions.

I disagree.

If I watch 100 movies on my uncalibrated TV and they look find to me and then watch 1 movie that looks horrible, is to dark, tinged blue etc. It's my TV's fault? Really?

Captain Mal · 10-17-2012, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

I disagree.

If I watch 100 movies on my uncalibrated TV and they look find to me and then watch 1 movie that looks horrible, is to dark, tinged blue etc. It's my TV's fault? Really?

The blue tint looks a lot worse on my uncalibrated LCD monitor compared to my calibrated plasma. However, I still think it looks bad on my plasma. Definitely prefer the color timing on Vudu's HDX version.

Mr Kite · 10-17-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

I disagree.

If I watch 100 movies on my uncalibrated TV and they look find to me and then watch 1 movie that looks horrible, is to dark, tinged blue etc. It's my TV's fault? Really?

How would you know what looks correct and to what level the blue tinge intrudes on your viewing pleasure as you have no point of reference?

PS
What if your settings for your 100 movies are wrong and NOTLD is correct how would you know??

Pondosinatra · 10-17-2012, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonpie

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What if your settings for your 100 movies are wrong and NOTLD is correct how would you know??

Yes you're right. Out of my 100 movies consisting of some of the most highly regarded movies for picture quality, NOTLD is the only one that had the correct color timings.

Calibrated crap is still crap.

All that said, I didn't find it to be as bad as some people are making it out to be. But yes, it was noticeable.

retablo · 10-17-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

I disagree.

If I watch 100 movies on my uncalibrated TV and they look find to me and then watch 1 movie that looks horrible, is to dark, tinged blue etc. It's my TV's fault? Really?

"Fine to me" doesn't mean "correct", however.

JoeDeM · 10-17-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Mal

The blue tint looks a lot worse on my uncalibrated LCD monitor compared to my calibrated plasma. However, I still think it looks bad on my plasma. Definitely prefer the color timing on Vudu's HDX version.

So is your LCD an LED or CCFL back light ? , just curious

PS watched on a calibrated Plasma and it looked great, but I would love to watch Vudu's HDX version, but sadly it's not available in Canada.

Mr Kite · 10-17-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Yes you're right. Out of my 100 movies consisting of some of the most highly regarded movies for picture quality, NOTLD is the only one that had the correct color timings.

Calibrated crap is still crap.

All that said, I didn't find it to be as bad as some people are making it out to be. But yes, it was noticeable.

Nope, i am asking how do you know what is right and what is wrong?

Pondosinatra · 10-17-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonpie

Nope, i am asking how do you know what is right and what is wrong?

Do you not get the concept of something being relative?

HyperRealist · 10-17-2012, 09:01 PM

I love how so many people claim to have calibrated TVs. There are like 6 guys in the country that know what they are doing and they aren't cheap.

HD Goofnut · 10-17-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperRealist

I love how so many people claim to have calibrated TVs. There are like 6 guys in the country that know what they are doing and they aren't cheap.

That's why I bought a calibration disc and did it myself. It may not be perfect, but it's better than most people's TV for sure.

Stinky-Dinkins · 10-17-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperRealist

I love how so many people claim to have calibrated TVs. There are like 6 guys in the country that know what they are doing and they aren't cheap.

Very few people are claiming to have ISF'ed sets.

When the vast majority of people claim to have calibrated sets the fact that they're home-calibrated is sort of implied. There are certain things you can't do without ISF-level expertise and certain specialized equipment for grayscale adjustment and the like, but a home calibration provides a vast improvement over out-of-the-box torch modes typical of most sets and gets extremely close to a truly accurate picture. Modern sets also often include very in-depth customization options compared to sets of the past so the results you can generate with nothing more than a home calibration disc (and the included color filters and stuff) are very impressive.

Sky_Captain · 10-17-2012, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonpie

How would you know what looks correct and to what level the blue tinge intrudes on your viewing pleasure as you have no point of reference?

PS
What if your settings for your 100 movies are wrong and NOTLD is correct how would you know??

[Show spoiler]

JoeDeM · 10-18-2012, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperRealist

I love how so many people claim to have calibrated TVs. There are like 6 guys in the country that know what they are doing and they aren't cheap.

I work in the highend AV field, and have access to people with knowledge, having said that I did mine myself.

popeflick · 10-18-2012, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Trekkie313

No the DP supposedly did it, rather I think he gave advice to some lackey.

Have any evidence to back this up? Or is this more armchair conjecture?

Never mind, I already know the answer.

10-17-2012, 11:57 AM	#5921
Andrew Woo Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:Germany	Finally got my copy today. The new/different transfer is a really mixed bag. Sometimes it really adds to the mood of the movie, sometimes one almost doesn't notice it and then there are moments where it definitely doesn't belong there.

10-17-2012, 04:45 PM	#5922
ucfmatt Active Member Member since:Mar 2011 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:100	Saw the DVD for $8 at Wal Mart and decided to pick it up and do some comparisons. No need to post screenshots as we've all seen plenty but seeing the difference on my own display was still a little surprising. What's interesting is that most of the discussion was about the transition from day to night during Act 1. However the color has been radically altered for pretty much every scene after that. Even the daytime scenes at the end display a heavy bluish tint when compared to the DVD. The DVD has a sort of grimy yet alive look with warm amber colors and skintones that really stand out against the interior of the farmhouse. The Blu pretty much kills that entirely and really reduces the overall range of colors. It's a real shame too, because switching back and forth really showed how much better the Blu looked for detail and resolvable film grain not to mention audio clarity. Also had a more film like look due to less EE. I'm glad some people like the changes. I wish there was a chance of getting the original transfer on blu but at least it's available to purchase in a digital form, and there's a halfway decent DVD in the OAR out so it could be worse all things considered.

10-17-2012, 09:01 PM	#5935
HyperRealist Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:PA Blu-ray collection:110 DVD collection:96 Trading Score:48	I love how so many people claim to have calibrated TVs. There are like 6 guys in the country that know what they are doing and they aren't cheap.

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