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Old 09-15-2012, 06:04 PM   #1201
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I guess they could impose a limit for certain titles, like the ticket limit for hot selling concerts. Those damn scalpers.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:16 PM   #1202
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Glad I got my pre-order in. I missed out on FN, I'm not missing out on this.

+1 on it being uncool to buy multiple and sell them. You are depriving legit fans. There are plenty of better ways to make money. Just my opinion of course.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:39 PM   #1203
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Glad I got my pre-order in. I missed out on FN, I'm not missing out on this.

+1 on it being uncool to buy multiple and sell them. You are depriving legit fans. There are plenty of better ways to make money. Just my opinion of course.
Oh, I make money those ways, too.
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:41 PM   #1204
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Sayyyyy.....just found this on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2344508/

What the hell?!? Another remake?
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Old 09-15-2012, 06:43 PM   #1205
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Sayyyyy.....just found this on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2344508/

What the hell?!? Another remake?
Looks like it:

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Old 09-15-2012, 07:06 PM   #1206
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i really wish someone could get the original notld on blu-ray here in the USA i aint counting that forgotten films release either!
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:29 PM   #1207
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Wellll....I'll see it, eventually, I suppose. But it looks pretty bad; we shall see.
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:39 PM   #1208
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i really wish someone could get the original notld on blu-ray here in the USA i aint counting that forgotten films release either!
Just get the Happinet release and be done with it. It can be found for a fairly reasonable price.
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:50 PM   #1209
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sales numbers

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In the spirit of Yankees0222's most recent question: I have just spoken with the owner of SAE and he has confirmed the following numbers; as of Noon Pacific Time today, the 2 titles have so far sold...

NOTLD = 1,539
E.M. = 667

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Old 09-15-2012, 07:52 PM   #1210
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Anyone who thinks or hopes the flippers will "eat it", or that the after market will be "flooded" really has no idea what they're talking about. I'm not speaking to anyone specific, but there's clearly a lot of comments hoping for the worst in the aftermarket. And that's just not possible.

It's really simple. Regardless of how many people buy multiple copies to re-sell, there's still only 3000 being made. At worst you have a short period where there's too many on Ebay to make a great profit (But profit nonetheless) but that goes away quickly. 3000 is still only 3000 regardless of where it's been sold.

Even Journey To The Center Of The Earth, which took much longer to sell out than FN did, is sold for $80 to $90 on Ebay. And believe me, they do actually sell.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:10 PM   #1211
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With this and Enemy Mine, I'll have 5 TT titles (Fright Night, As Good As It Gets, The Big Heat)
The Next will be "The Blue Lagoon"
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:57 PM   #1212
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That may solve the problem, especially if they limit one copy PER HOUSEHOLD, but Christmas IS coming and I think people should be able to buy 2 or 3 copies if they want, as long as they're meant as gifts or something, you know? But that leaves the door open for dishonest people who really don't care about the film, but just want to make a quick buck instead.
Hilarious! So YOU will be the one to decide how many copies someone should purchase and YOU should be the one to decide what they can/cannot do with them once they purchase them legally within all rules and regulations? Sorry to let you in on this but this is the USA just in case you have been time-warped back to 60's Russia, China etc. etc. Also, "dishonest"? Really? Sounds like something an honest Communist would say
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:03 PM   #1213
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Just get the Happinet release and be done with it. It can be found for a fairly reasonable price.
Seriously. The Happinet release is damn good.

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Hilarious! So YOU will be the one to decide how many copies someone should purchase and YOU should be the one to decide what they can/cannot do with them once they purchase them legally within all rules and regulations? Sorry to let you in on this but this is the USA just in case you have been time-warped back to 60's Russia, China etc. etc. Also, "dishonest"? Really? Sounds like something an honest Communist would say
Actually, when I said 'buy 2 or 3 copies if they want', I didn't mean LITERALLY 2 or 3 copies. I meant people should have the option to buy multiple copies. All I'm really asking is people leave the copies behind for fans who want it to WATCH and not to SELL. I don't think that's unreasonable.

Thanks for playing the game anyway!
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:04 PM   #1214
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Anyone who thinks or hopes the flippers will "eat it", or that the after market will be "flooded" really has no idea what they're talking about. I'm not speaking to anyone specific, but there's clearly a lot of comments hoping for the worst in the aftermarket. And that's just not possible.

It's really simple. Regardless of how many people buy multiple copies to re-sell, there's still only 3000 being made. At worst you have a short period where there's too many on Ebay to make a great profit (But profit nonetheless) but that goes away quickly. 3000 is still only 3000 regardless of where it's been sold.

Even Journey To The Center Of The Earth, which took much longer to sell out than FN did, is sold for $80 to $90 on Ebay. And believe me, they do actually sell.
A thing is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it... history tells stories of lots of things that in the short-run were hot and rose in price... but a year or two later you couldn't give them away.

Just because something is "rare" does not make it valuable.

I've said before... Check back in 3-5 years and see where we are at. I'm still banking on being able to find one of these at a used bookstore by then from someone who bought multiple copies and can't clip them and wants to cut his losses by then when the bottom falls out.

Things that are manufactured to be collectibles are seldom as sought after as genuinely rare things that people want later... these movies are manufactured collectibles, limited only because they say so... and yes, there are only 3000 copies.

I have several comic books of which there are less than 2000 copies in existence... and I assure you they are very much worthless. Appropriate too, since some of them are EC reprints of the old classic EC Tales from the Crypt comics... you know, those comics that inspired things like Night of the Living Dead!

Mark my words... these Twilight Time movies will only be "hot" for a short time. They will ALWAYS be rare, no doubt... but they will not be as heavily sought after once the hoopla dies down and people end up holding the hot potato last after having sunk a bunch of money into "investments"...

Meanwhile, the people who actually wanted the movie will not care whether they have value or are worthless, because they like the movie itself and aren't interested in selling.
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Old 09-15-2012, 09:11 PM   #1215
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A thing is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it... history tells stories of lots of things that in the short-run were hot and rose in price... but a year or two later you couldn't give them away.

Just because something is "rare" does not make it valuable.

I've said before... Check back in 3-5 years and see where we are at. I'm still banking on being able to find one of these at a used bookstore by then from someone who bought multiple copies and can't clip them and wants to cut his losses by then when the bottom falls out.

Things that are manufactured to be collectibles are seldom as sought after as genuinely rare things that people want later... these movies are manufactured collectibles, limited only because they say so... and yes, there are only 3000 copies.

I have several comic books of which there are less than 2000 copies in existence... and I assure you they are very much worthless. Appropriate too, since some of them are EC reprints of the old classic EC Tales from the Crypt comics... you know, those comics that inspired things like Night of the Living Dead!

Mark my words... these Twilight Time movies will only be "hot" for a short time. They will ALWAYS be rare, no doubt... but they will not be as heavily sought after once the hoopla dies down and people end up holding the hot potato last after having sunk a bunch of money into "investments"...

Meanwhile, the people who actually wanted the movie will not care whether they have value or are worthless, because they like the movie itself and aren't interested in selling.
I think the point is, people are not buying these to sit on for 5 years and then make a profit on it. People are selling them as soon as they sell out... When they ARE still hot. The odds are, this will sell for ~$100 a piece on the secondary market after they sell out.

There's no reason to believe that this won't follow in fright nights footsteps... Which is still routinely fetching $100-$150 a piece.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:19 PM   #1216
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I'm still confused about why all the anger is being directed at the re-sellers. I understand the view points of those who say that it prevents those who want this item to KEEP from getting one. However, the first news of this release was 3 months ago. And here we are 26hrs into the pre-order and (according to posts made here) there are still 1400+ copies left. That, to me, says that there are still plenty (relatively) of copies left for those who want them. So, if someone wants a copy at the $30 price tag, they still have time.

If you look at EBay right now, there is a copy of Fright Night with 15 bids that is currently bid over $100. So, someone (be it fan or "investor") wants this copy enough to pay more than 3x the original sale price. There is someone selling THIS NotLD release for $65 and it says that they have sold 2 copies. Someone wants this enough to pay more than 2x the asking price from the distributor. So, the buyers are already declaring what they are willing to pay. To me, that says that if TT were asking $60 for this on their site, there are people willing to pay it.

Is it unfair to buy up multiple copies with the intent to make a profit? That's debatable. Is it sad that a true fan might miss out on a copy? Sure, but that is a risk of not "doing your homework".

Simply put, as long as people are making the CHOICE to pay these prices for these items there is going to be someone to sell it to them. So, blame the buyer for being either dumb enough or "diehard" enough to agree to give up that much money. Once the customer stops agreeing to these jacked up prices, those looking for a quick profit will disappear.

If you know a fan who would enjoy having this, then let then know while there is still time.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:20 PM   #1217
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I'm just glad to have this one Blu-ray. Considering what a limited run it is, I understand why they charge as much as they do. But I do think that if a title sells out in 5 weeks, they are leaving money on the table by only printing 3,000 copies. I'm sure a bunch of people would love to get their hands on a copy of Fright Night now that people are more aware of TT.
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:34 PM   #1218
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A thing is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it... history tells stories of lots of things that in the short-run were hot and rose in price... but a year or two later you couldn't give them away.

Just because something is "rare" does not make it valuable.

I've said before... Check back in 3-5 years and see where we are at. I'm still banking on being able to find one of these at a used bookstore by then from someone who bought multiple copies and can't clip them and wants to cut his losses by then when the bottom falls out.

Things that are manufactured to be collectibles are seldom as sought after as genuinely rare things that people want later... these movies are manufactured collectibles, limited only because they say so... and yes, there are only 3000 copies.

I have several comic books of which there are less than 2000 copies in existence... and I assure you they are very much worthless. Appropriate too, since some of them are EC reprints of the old classic EC Tales from the Crypt comics... you know, those comics that inspired things like Night of the Living Dead!

Mark my words... these Twilight Time movies will only be "hot" for a short time. They will ALWAYS be rare, no doubt... but they will not be as heavily sought after once the hoopla dies down and people end up holding the hot potato last after having sunk a bunch of money into "investments"...

Meanwhile, the people who actually wanted the movie will not care whether they have value or are worthless, because they like the movie itself and aren't interested in selling.
Uh huh...nobody is waiting 3 to 5 years to sell theirs. Nobody is buying multiple copies as a long term multi-year investment. Your idea of what flippers are doing, and what they are actually doing, are very different. The following few months after this sells out is when people will be selling their copies. And they will make a nice profit. Remember, it wasn't just Fright Night that took this path. Journey and Mysterious Island both sold out. And the month following they were selling for $80-$90. Not merely listed for, but actually selling for. NOTLD will be no different.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:01 PM   #1219
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well, I may be demonized, but I put in my first TT order. got 2 copies of NOTLD. one to keep, one to sell to help recoup some of the price of my own copy ($35 for a blu-ray is just nuts).
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:11 PM   #1220
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I thought we were asked to not talk about buying multiple copies to sell later at a profit?
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