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Old 09-17-2012, 09:52 PM   #1381
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In the past 3 months, 35 copies of Fright Night have sold on ebay ranging from $83 to $237, with an avg price of about $130. I think it's pretty safe to say that no one should have difficulty selling one for $100 or more.

That's also quite a decent amount of copies for a 3 month span if you think about it. You also have to consider the probability that everytime one sells that reduces the pool of copies that will be sold and may have the impact of increasing the value of the title even further.

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Old 09-17-2012, 09:55 PM   #1382
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You know it was a sad day in Muddsville when Liefeld took over for Brett Blevins on New Mutants back in the day. The thing is I'm not a Rob Liefeld fan either but I got sucked into the speculator vortex like everyone else. The tail end of his New Mutants run was going for like $5-10 per issue (even more for the first appearance of Cable and Deadpool) and when it was getting cancelled with issue # 100 and being replaced/retitled as X-Force I was jumping on that so my dumb a$$ bought 2 copies, one to read and one to sell/trade. It was apparent within a few months of release that no one in their right mind was going to pay $10 or more on this comic. Comic shops already had about 100 extra copies in the back of the store and no other fans wanted to sell or trade the thing as they were like me, stuck with multiples of a comic no one wanted. My long boxes are filled with stuff like this ..... Jim Lee's Xmen # 1 with the 5 different covers, various issues of the first 10 issues of Spawn (I never bought #1) which, just like Liefeld's Xforce, sucked which I should've known would've sucked as I have at least 2 different covers of McFarland's Spider-Man #1 as well as his entire Spidey run that he wrote (awesome artist, horrible writer).

I've thought about selling my copy of TT's Fright Night just because of all those prices I see it selling for on Ebay and whatnot but really, when I start to get gold fever like that I just think about all the money I squandered on stupid gimmick comics that I thought I was going to get rich over when I should've jut not bought into the hype and just bought what I liked and wanted regardless of it's potential collectibility pricing.
+1 on the comics issue during the '90s (yes, I was caught up in the hype of variant covers and speculation-driven mindset that fueled the hobby back then; I've still got long boxes of this stuff sitting in my parents' basement, and I have no idea what to do with them, seeing as they will be downsizing their home next year ). I hated Liefeld's work, yet I still purchased copies of X-Force #1, easily one of my worse regrets when I was a collector back then.

I'm not going to repeat the same mistakes from my young adult days with this release. If folks want to purchase this for the purpose of flipping, that's their prerogative. Moving forward, I'm not buying anything that I wouldn't want for my collection or trade-related with fellow collectors.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:07 PM   #1383
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Again sadly, false. They sell all the time as they are priced between 100 and 150. Anymore than that and yeah it's harder to sell. but put a fright night with a buy it now of 100 and it will be gone within a week.
I agree with you and I'm sure close to the end of the remaining copies the prices will shoot through the roof. I remember WAY back when the first Salo: 120 Days of Sodom DVD was released by Criterion then went out of print. There were a few people who sold their copies for close to $1000 and bragged about it on the forums I was on (back when Arrow In The Head first started out). The people who bought those must have been kicking themselves when Criterion re-released it in a better package. Anyway, collectors will spend top dollar for something they missed out on, I just don't believe in selling something for ridiculous prices. The most I've paid for an OOP movie was $60. The second they start approaching the 100s, I duck out. Some sellers on places like Ebay and Amazon are really awesome about selling OOP stuff and I've purchased numerous cult classics for under 30 bucks, thanks to people not being overly greedy.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:32 PM   #1384
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I think its funny how this has turned into a debate about how people will obviously exploit the rarity of the title in order to turn a profit. I don't understand the issue here, this is not a new concept - in fact it is just simple economics.. Every electronic you own that allows you to enjoy your favorite Blu-rays was marked up and sold at a profit, I realize that's not the same as a title that will become highly in demand after the 3000 copies are gone but it is irrelevant. It will happen regardless, so I have a hard time understanding why people are so worried about others selling copies for a profit. If you want it that bad just buy a copy while you can or are you that concerned about a handful of people who might have to pay $100 instead of $30?

I have ordered a copy for myself, but if I wasn't a student and tight on cash I would absolutely pick up an extra copy or two to sell for a profit. October 9th will be a great day, I am psyched to finally own this on blu and retire my old DVD copy.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:17 PM   #1385
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well it's depend to us, it's is worth
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:43 PM   #1386
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I hope all the people getting up in arms about people having to potentially pay a $100+ down the road put as much concern in stuff that actually matters like helping people, donating to charity, etc. Otherwise, you don't have much of a leg to stand on when you're fighting the good fight over a freaking Blu-ray.

And unless you can only afford the one copy, you're just plain foolish to ignore an opportunity like this.
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:46 PM   #1387
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Bottom line: If you want it, then buy it. There's over 1,000 left and you have ample opportunity to do so. Stop worrying so much about what other people are spending, or what they intend to do with their copies. Worry about your own copy.

I missed out on Fright Night, but I don't blame the eBay sellers for that.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:18 AM   #1388
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I hope all the people getting up in arms about people having to potentially pay a $100+ down the road put as much concern in stuff that actually matters like helping people, donating to charity, etc. Otherwise, you don't have much of a leg to stand on when you're fighting the good fight over a freaking Blu-ray.

And unless you can only afford the one copy, you're just plain foolish to ignore an opportunity like this.
Exactly, people are being ridiculous.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:24 AM   #1389
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I missed out on Fright Night, but I don't blame the eBay sellers for that.
Agreed! I missed out on it as well. I srill ended up buying it on eBay for $90, and it looks like I still made a good investment as now they are going for $120+...
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:42 AM   #1390
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In the past 3 months, 35 copies of Fright Night have sold on ebay ranging from $83 to $237, with an avg price of about $130. I think it's pretty safe to say that no one should have difficulty selling one for $100 or more.

That's also quite a decent amount of copies for a 3 month span if you think about it. You also have to consider the probability that everytime one sells that reduces the pool of copies that will be sold and may have the impact of increasing the value of the title even further.
Very true, and you can bet that most people who are throwing down $100 or more to own this are not looking to resell. The price will only go up from here, not down.
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Old 09-18-2012, 03:49 AM   #1391
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:47 AM   #1392
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How about we just talk about how awesome this movie is and how excited we are for this Blu release, because at the end of the day people are gonna do what they are gonna do no matter what you say good or ill.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:56 AM   #1393
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I don't know what to tell you. It sounds like you have something against capitalism in general cause that's pretty much what all this speculation talk is about.
Just one last bit...

Capitalism really only applies to the original producer of a thing and the first sale to an end-user.

Capitalism doesn't really apply to wholesalers. Lots of wholesalers exercise a semi-monopoly status in that you have to deal with them in the way they want to be dealt with in order to sell their product... so Wal-Mart and Best Buy do not buy from a movie producer in a capitalistic marketplace where supply and demand rule the day.

Also... on the resale/secondary market, that too is not ruled by capitalism. The "rules" of capitalism don't apply to collectibles or pretty much any resale for lots of reasons that are too complicated to go into here.

So... bottom line... one can wholly participate and support capitalism BUT simultaneously dislike the secondary/collectible market. They are not the same thing. Not by a longshot.

So saying that someone has to either like hoarding/speculating/price-gouging OR be a socialist really demonstrates a lack of understanding of how capitalism works.. and more importantly, where it is not even a part of the process.

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Lots of people don't buy until until there is a review.

What happens if it sells out before it is reviewed, and the review is good?
I've asked this very thing myself. Twilight Time opens pre-orders about 4 weeks from release. Fright Night sold out ~1 week after release date... and Twilight Time does NOT supply advance screener copies for reviews.

So... you have to take a risk and pre-order at their high price before you even know... and at least one person on here was given hell for wanting to return a Twilight Time movie unopened... but of course if he had opened it he would be unable to return it!

So... for any at-risk title (at-risk of selling out that is) you are faced with the unenviable choice of locking in $35 to something that you may not like OR risking missing out IF it turns out to be good quality.

It really plays into everything that is bad about home video sales... Buying sight-unseen is bad enough... but most home video releases you get a shot at hearing someone's impression of it before you can no longer get it at the original price.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:57 AM   #1394
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To lighten the mood... since Rob Liefeld was brought up... Even his name makes you think he is a bad idea...

Rob...Lie...Failed
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:03 AM   #1395
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Just one last bit...

Capitalism really only applies to the original producer of a thing and the first sale to an end-user.

Capitalism doesn't really apply to wholesalers. Lots of wholesalers exercise a semi-monopoly status in that you have to deal with them in the way they want to be dealt with in order to sell their product... so Wal-Mart and Best Buy do not buy from a movie producer in a capitalistic marketplace where supply and demand rule the day.

Also... on the resale/secondary market, that too is not ruled by capitalism. The "rules" of capitalism don't apply to collectibles or pretty much any resale for lots of reasons that are too complicated to go into here.

So... bottom line... one can wholly participate and support capitalism BUT simultaneously dislike the secondary/collectible market. They are not the same thing. Not by a longshot.

So saying that someone has to either like hoarding/speculating/price-gouging OR be a socialist really demonstrates a lack of understanding of how capitalism works.. and more importantly, where it is not even a part of the process.



I've asked this very thing myself. Twilight Time opens pre-orders about 4 weeks from release. Fright Night sold out ~1 week after release date... and Twilight Time does NOT supply advance screener copies for reviews.

So... you have to take a risk and pre-order at their high price before you even know... and at least one person on here was given hell for wanting to return a Twilight Time movie unopened... but of course if he had opened it he would be unable to return it!

So... for any at-risk title (at-risk of selling out that is) you are faced with the unenviable choice of locking in $35 to something that you may not like OR risking missing out IF it turns out to be good quality.

It really plays into everything that is bad about home video sales... Buying sight-unseen is bad enough... but most home video releases you get a shot at hearing someone's impression of it before you can no longer get it at the original price.
It is a Sony tranfer. TT does not touch that and I think that Sony's reputation speaks for itself. This will sell out in less than a week from now and that will be that.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:51 AM   #1396
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Does anybody know if Screen Archives takes Visa Vanilla Gift Card for online shopping?
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:06 AM   #1397
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Which makes absolutely no sense for a mediocre 80s horror film.
Mediocre?

Just ordered NOTLD. Could not see how many were left
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:37 AM   #1398
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Twilight Time opens pre-orders about 4 weeks from release. Fright Night sold out ~1 week after release date... and Twilight Time does NOT supply advance screener copies for reviews.

So... you have to take a risk and pre-order at their high price before you even know... and at least one person on here was given hell for wanting to return a Twilight Time movie unopened... but of course if he had opened it he would be unable to return it!

So... for any at-risk title (at-risk of selling out that is) you are faced with the unenviable choice of locking in $35 to something that you may not like OR risking missing out IF it turns out to be good quality.

It really plays into everything that is bad about home video sales... Buying sight-unseen is bad enough... but most home video releases you get a shot at hearing someone's impression of it before you can no longer get it at the original price.
No they run the risk of putting it up for sale and making money off of it opened or unopened. That is why there is no risk in buying a twilight time title. If you don't like it you can always sell it, even the ones that are still in stock you can still at least break even on. Even the ones that aren't seeling well will still make most of the money back.
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:39 AM   #1399
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Does anybody know if Screen Archives takes Visa Vanilla Gift Card for online shopping?
Well they takes visa cards in general so I can't imagine this being an issue. Also they do take money orders. One of the only companies I can think of that does that.
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:51 AM   #1400
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Well they takes visa cards in general so I can't imagine this being an issue. Also they do take money orders. One of the only companies I can think of that does that.
I read in the Fright Night bluray forum that somebody called on the phone to place an order for FN and the people said they dont take visa gift card.
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