LG's new OLED TVs

[vinnie97]

Best of luck! And don't worry, I've seen banding in content also. What I don't know is if my current level would be deemed as acceptable according to VE's QC policy. I was *hoping* advanced QC in the G6 would have kept the most offensive banding at bay.

My pixel-peeping ways have apparently been revisited upon me by this panel. I simply accessed the service menu to observe the compensation count total at which point one of the red subpixels turned on at full bore (the equivalent of a bright LED shining on the screen, matching the intensity of your average power LED), and nothing I have done since has managed to get it to return to its normal operation state. Sadly, I will have to initiate another exchange.

[RockyIII]

Since the LG OLED G and F models do not come with standard VESA mount, how can these displays be mounted on a movable stand on wheels?
can the LG OLED wall mount be installed to a TV stand and then install the OLED TV to the LG wall mount consequently?
This is the movable mount I want to use with the LG OLED TV:
http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Mobi...vable+tv+stand

[punisher]

100lbs maximum weight doesn't sound too sturdy or strong enough to trust holding a 65 inch or even a 55 inch OLED tv.

[vinnie97]

Here's the aforementioned fault mine developed. Almost looks like a small cluster of pixels, a fellow elsewhere opined it might be a short-circuited driver transistor (ignore the leftmost dot, just a reflection):

[Ant1010]

Is the $1000.00 difference from the B6 to the E6 the sound bar and 3D feature? do they have the same Processor for PQ?

[Robert Zohn]

Although not confirmed officially, the processor is likely different on all 4 2016 4K OLED TVs. But from what we can tell the image performance is identical o all 4 series.

However, please note that other than the upgraded built-in audio system, the E6 shares the elegant bezel-less "Picture on Glass" design, that the flagship G6 Signature Series boasts, a upgraded remote control and 3D. So the E6 has more to offer than upgraded audio performance.

-Robert

[Ant1010]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Although not confirmed officially, the processor is likely different on all 4 2016 4K OLED TVs. But from what we can tell the image performance is identical o all 4 series.

However, please note that other than the upgraded built-in audio system, the E6 shares the elegant bezel-less "Picture on Glass" design, that the flagship G6 Signature Series boasts, a upgraded remote control and 3D. So the E6 has more to offer than upgraded audio performance.

-Robert

thanks Robert. The only reason why I'm asking is I just don't like the look of the sound bar.. I find it really unattractive and its been the only reason why I haven't pulled the trigger on the E6

[Robert Zohn]

I understand, but it grows on you quickly and does perform well. Also you won't see it when the light are out. With all that said, the B6 is the price/performance buy.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by punisher

100lbs maximum weight doesn't sound too sturdy or strong enough to trust holding a 65 inch or even a 55 inch OLED tv.

100lbs maximum...The OLED 55" TVs are about 40lbs...I dont see what the issue would be

[Robert Zohn]

Cats love OLED TVs. Here's photos of our two cats watching TV with us.

[RockyIII]

According to many 4K OLED users I have spoken to, 1080 on a calibrated OLED looks just as good or even better than what you can get out of a HDR 4K LED display

[RockyIII]

Question:
What's the difference between the new E6P and B6P models?

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

According to many 4K OLED users I have spoken to, 1080 on a calibrated OLED looks just as good or even better than what you can get out of a HDR 4K LED display

Depends on which led tv. I've seen some comparisons where 4k hdr on a top led tv will look slightly better than sdr on a 4k oled, but hdr vs hdr the oled will look better (2016 oleds). But overall yea the oleds are incredible.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Question:
What's the difference between the new E6P and B6P models?

The e6 has 3d, a built in soundbar, and basically a more fancier bezel which is a glass like structure that just "looks nicer".

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Depends on which led tv. I've seen some comparisons where 4k hdr on a top led tv will look slightly better than sdr on a 4k oled, but hdr vs hdr the oled will look better (2016 oleds). But overall yea the oleds are incredible.

From what I understand, even the 2016 4K OLEDs do not meet the minimum criteria of 1000 nits of display for proper HDR (more like 500 nits, I believe?). LG UHD displays such as the new UH8500 and 9500-though being LED panels-get much closer to the 1000 nits minimum requirement

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by ray0414

The e6 has 3d, a built in soundbar, and basically a more fancier bezel which is a glass like structure that just "looks nicer".

Wish the E6 came without the soundbar and $1000 cheaper, that's all I got to say

[Robert Zohn]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

From what I understand, even the 2016 4K OLEDs do not meet the minimum criteria of 1000 nits of display for proper HDR (more like 500 nits, I believe?). LG UHD displays such as the new UH8500 and 9500-though being LED panels-get much closer to the 1000 nits minimum requirement

Actually LG's OLED have the UHD's Alliance highest HDR rating of "Ultra HD Premium". You are correct that the UHD Alliance technical requirement is based on either reaching 1k-nits or the overall contract ratio or 14 stops and OLED exceeds the contract ratio requirement and has earned the highest rating for supporting HDR.

OLED's measured contrast ratio range is 20 stops and the best LCD/LEDs that reach 1k-nits measure 14 stops. So although OLED panels are not as bright as the best LCD/LED they have a higher contrast ratio and more importantly, to the human eye they actually look brighter, which is a result of our brain tricking us to see the overall difference between the MLL and peak luminance.

Also note that only LG's OLED TVs support the SMPTE base standard, HDR10 and the more difficult Dolby Vision HDR.

-Robert

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

Actually LG's OLED have the UHD's Alliance highest HDR rating of "Ultra HD Premium". You are correct that the UHD Alliance technical requirement is based on either reaching 1k-nits or the overall contract ratio or 14 stops and OLED exceeds the contract ratio requirement and has earned the highest rating for supporting HDR.

OLED's measured contrast ratio range is 20 stops and the best LCD/LEDs that reach 1k-nits measure 14 stops. So although OLED panels are not as bright as the best LCD/LED they have a higher contrast ratio and more importantly, to the human eye they actually look brighter, which is a result of our brain tricking us to see the overall difference between the MLL and peak luminance.

Also note that only LG's OLED TVs support the SMPTE base standard, HDR10 and the more difficult Dolby Vision HDR.

-Robert

Good point Robert, but the LG LED UH8500 and UH9500 I beleieve also support both HDR10 and Dolby Vision.
Here is an example of a LG LED that supposedly can display full HDR. This and the UH9500 with the proper HDR source should produce an even better picture than any of the OLED 2016 models because of the 1000 nits included. I am not sure about this until I see it with my own eyes, of course
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01ARRCHSS...41M8AKOY&psc=1

[Robert Zohn]

True and thanks for pointing this out. LG paid extra to integrate the Dolby Vision capable chipset and pay Dolby the upfront and ongoing license fees.

So this proves that most other LCD/LED premium TVs could also comply if they wanted to offer Dolby Vision. What actually happens with a display can't reach the tone mapped range is one of the following three methods to display the image.

- The highest peak luminance is rolled off smoothly wth minimal loss of detail in the high luminance areas

- The MLL is dithered to render the best overall contrast range of the image

- And the worst that can happen is they clip the lightest shades

Hope this helps to understand how any display can handle any HDR10 or Dolby Vision HDR range they can't reach naturally.

[RockyIII]

..And granted, from what I get, the ONLY way a HDR-compliant LED TV (1000 nits) will perform better than a HDR-compliant OLED TV (500+ nits) is provided that:
1) The source material is proper HDR
(2) The video equipment supports and/or outputs HDR properly
(3) The display device supports and/or displays HDR properly.

If any one of these three lags to any extent, then you are not viewing HDR displayed properly.