LG's new OLED TVs

[vinnie97]

Oh man, I just couldn't avoid jumping on my soapbox in those review comments. Thanks for the link.

[raygendreau]

^^

So I see. (I'm tracking the review)

I think LG is making a mistake by dribbling product into the market. One look from an average consumer with money to spend will be sold on these UHD OLEDs. (The 98% that doesn't spend time in threads like this one)
The content producers aren't going to pay much attention to the black levels that these sets can display if there isn't a sufficient number of sets in use. LG needs to stop skimming the high end and get to price parity sooner than 2018 (current target) if they can.

LG should concentrate on doing a deal with Sony to provide OLED panels to Sony and get some decent video processing from Sony for the LG sets.

[vinnie97]

Well, let's hope for a similar price trajectory that occurred with the 9800, though I doubt it will be quite that sharp with the 4K and >55" panels. Chinese firms seem to be the best bet for rebadging with Japan, Inc continuing to be in dire financial straits.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

EDIT: Just looked at this again. The review and 18 comments are gone. Only the 4 star rating remains. Very strange.

You're right for some reason it doesn't come up under the main review section, try this link - http://www.amazon.com/review/R1ORHDKSFVUKZZ

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

You're right for some reason it doesn't come up under the main review section, try this link - http://www.amazon.com/review/R1ORHDKSFVUKZZ

Yes, I'm still getting email tracking updates that take me to the link you posted. Seems that is the only way to see the review now. Edit: Back to normal now. I think they may have taken the review down to remove some links from some of the comments.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by JimShaw

I called the high-end Magnolia in Costa Mesa, CA a few days ago and asked when they would see a 65" OLED. I was told not for a long time. He also mentioned B.B. only has 3 coming for the west coast and they are already sold. Was he lying to try and get me into an LED, I don't know.

I might get to see one in 2016 unless I fly to Scarsdale, N.Y.



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My local BB now has a pre-order button, with earliest delivery 1 May for the 65EG9600. I'm beginning to wonder if I will see one of these set up in Magnolia. They may just take and fulfill orders.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Yes, I'm still getting email tracking updates that take me to the link you posted. Seems that is the only way to see the review now. Edit: Back to normal now. I think they may have taken the review down to remove some links from some of the comments.

I've never heard of them removing urls from comments before. Reviews yes, that's automatic unless it's to an Amazon site (and only the Amazon site you're reviewing from, can't link to Amazon US in a UK review).

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I've never heard of them removing urls from comments before. Reviews yes, that's automatic unless it's to an Amazon site (and only the Amazon site you're reviewing from, can't link to Amazon US in a UK review).

They removed a link to a Blu-ray.com post in one of my Amazon reviews. Also:

"Inappropriate content:
• Other people's material (this includes excessive quoting)
• Phone numbers, postal mailing addresses, and URLs external to Amazon.com
• Videos with watermarks
• Comments on other reviews visible on the page (because page visibility is subject to change without notice)
• Foreign language content (unless there is a clear connection to the product) "

http://www.amazon.com/gp/community-h...ews-guidelines

So, it must apply to comments to the review as well as the review itself.

"•Any form of "spam," including advertisements, contests, or other solicitations for other websites or companies; or any URL link that includes a "referrer" tag or affiliate code"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/conte...ent-guidelines

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by JimShaw

I cannot wait. I am excited to watch this year's Flat Panel Shoot Out and looking at a JS9500 beside a EG9600

another candidate for the shoot out: "The idea of running a [Panasonic] 65CX850U against a reference OLED monitor also didn’t really work out, as I couldn’t help but notice how the OLED screen delivered a significantly better black level response."

Does VE have the Netflix Marco Polo HDR clip referred to in this article?:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarch...800-4k-hdr-tv/

[Pizzamorg]

Would love to upgrade to a TV of this kind of level some day but as I'm looking to buy a house a three grand TV just isn't on the cards for me right now.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

They removed a link to a Blu-ray.com post in one of my Amazon reviews. Also:

"Inappropriate content:
• Other people's material (this includes excessive quoting)
• Phone numbers, postal mailing addresses, and URLs external to Amazon.com
• Videos with watermarks
• Comments on other reviews visible on the page (because page visibility is subject to change without notice)
• Foreign language content (unless there is a clear connection to the product) "

http://www.amazon.com/gp/community-h...ews-guidelines

So, it must apply to comments to the review as well as the review itself.

"•Any form of "spam," including advertisements, contests, or other solicitations for other websites or companies; or any URL link that includes a "referrer" tag or affiliate code"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/conte...ent-guidelines

Yes, like I said in REVIEWS you cannot link to any site that isn't Amazon including Amazon sites that aren't the one you're posting a review from.

I've never had any links removed from posts I've made in comments, none of them have referrer tags or affiliate codes though.

[raygendreau]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

Yes, like I said in REVIEWS you cannot link to any site that isn't Amazon including Amazon sites that aren't the one you're posting a review from.

I've never had any links removed from posts I've made in comments, none of them have referrer tags or affiliate codes though.

Amazon kills the live links, but leaves the link path in comments, which is what they did in the comments for the 55EG9600 review we have been discussing.

[raygendreau]

The British like their version (55EG960V) Owners thread with several images and Youtube videos. No banding reported.

https://www.avforums.com/threads/lg-...hread.1948687/

[vinnie97]

Have seen the 65 and 77" models at the Fry's in Las Vegas twice now (once in January, once this weekend). Both are afflicted with what appears to be burn-in from the LG OLED logo that appears on the stock video loop, with it being more pronounced on the 77" than the 65" (the 77" also has some other nondescript retention/burn-in in the center of the screen). Fry's apparently plays this short (3 to 5-minute?) loop every day, all day. I'm hoping that in typical use, this would not be a problem and that the aging algorithm simply hasn't been activated as would occur in more common usage. Either way, I hope you can pass this onto LG, Robert, because these panels are prominently displayed on their own stage setup in the middle of the store. It's extremely off-putting for displays priced at $10k and $25k, respectively, and can't be good for the brand or the tech either.

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

Have seen the 65 and 77" models at the Fry's in Las Vegas twice now (once in January, once this weekend). Both are afflicted with what appears to be burn-in from the LG OLED logo that appears on the stock video loop, with it being more pronounced on the 77" than the 65" (the 77" also has some other nondescript retention/burn-in in the center of the screen). Fry's apparently plays this short (3 to 5-minute?) loop every day, all day. I'm hoping that in typical use, this would not be a problem and that the aging algorithm simply hasn't been activated as would occur in more common usage. Either way, I hope you can pass this onto LG, Robert, because these panels are prominently displayed on their own stage setup in the middle of the store. It's extremely off-putting for displays priced at $10k and $25k, respectively, and can't be good for the brand or the tech either.

Vinnie97

I am going through Las Vegas in April.

Instead of stopping by the Pawn Shop, I will stop by Fry's.

Is it on 6845 S Las Vegas Blvd?

I am getting excited. There is finally a chance for me to see the 65 & 77 OLEDs and I don't have to fly to Scarsdale, N.Y. to do it.

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[vinnie97]

There's only one of them in the area, so that is most likely the address (I used Google Maps to get me there. It's definitely on LV Blvd...the store website should have the correct address on hand). LG needs to advise them on how to use the demo (or advise them against using it for 13 hours straight...I think it's preventing the aging algorithm from otherwise functioning).

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

There's only one of them in the area, so that is most likely the address (I used Google Maps to get me there. It's definitely on LV Blvd...the store website should have the correct address on hand). LG needs to advise them on how to use the demo (or advise them against using it for 13 hours straight...I think it's preventing the aging algorithm from otherwise functioning).

Excellent. I am looking forward to visiting them. Other than the negative that you reported, what was your impression on PQ when you first noticed the sets?

[vinnie97]

Really good (especially the enhanced detail provided by 4K on that 77"). The area was lit like the rest of the store, so the full benefit of the absolute blacks was not able to be seen. Also, if you're like me, a visible defect like the aforementioned can be so distracting that it's hard to notice much else from the sets. I thought I saw some very slight DSE on horizontal panning on the 65". We really do need a Robert Zohn in the west for seeing these at their most optimum.

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by vinnie97

Really good (especially the enhanced detail provided by 4K on that 77"). The area was lit like the rest of the store, so the full benefit of the absolute blacks was not able to be seen. Also, if you're like me, a visible defect like the aforementioned can be so distracting that it's hard to notice much else from the sets. I thought I saw some very slight DSE on horizontal panning on the 65". We really do need a Robert Zohn in the west for seeing these at their most optimum.

vinnie

Thanks for the update.

I'm getting excited, almost giddy. My wife says we will be in L.V. around April 21st.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by raygendreau

Amazon kills the live links, but leaves the link path in comments, which is what they did in the comments for the 55EG9600 review we have been discussing.

Which is, again, what I said in my very first comment.

Originally Posted by dobyblue

I've never heard of them removing urls from comments before. Reviews yes, that's automatic unless it's to an Amazon site (and only the Amazon site you're reviewing from, can't link to Amazon US in a UK review).