LG's new OLED TVs

[smail.nathan]

hey all, i already sent robert a pm asking for his suggestions, but i figured i would post here too so i can get everyone's feedback/suggestions.

my 65 inch panny zt60 was fried in a storm a few weeks ago. painful to lose it (i still loved that tv) but oled was the only way to go once i couldnt repair the tv.

anyway, hoping you would share your recommended settings for the tv. dejudder,enhancements, etc.

only things i'm not liking so far -motion processing and glare. if we have any lights on in kitchen (which is room behind living room and no wall dividing the two) it gives me a weird sharp glare across screen that is purple/pink in color. very distracting - wish there is something i could do to ease it. i never got that glare at all with the zt60. why would it be so much worse on the LGC6?

anyway, thanks all for your help!

[punisher]

first thing is get a good surge protector.Never mind an extended warranty. Invest in good protection.

[RockyIII]

I have to agree. I have two surge protectors to power up both my TV, surround sound system, and a couple of lamps in the room, and I know for a fact they have saved my equipment at least on two separate occasions

[smail.nathan]

Originally Posted by punisher

first thing is get a good surge protector.Never mind an extended warranty. Invest in good protection.

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I have to agree. I have two surge protectors to power up both my TV, surround sound system, and a couple of lamps in the room, and I know for a fact they have saved my equipment at least on two separate occasions

i did. full surge protector with battery backup. it didn't prevent it. our cable box outside was struck by lightning. the strike traveled through the cable, into the house, through coax, through my surge protector (and yes, my coax is connected to my surge protector as well), into my cable box, through my hdmi cable to my tv, and friend the main board.

so, no, a new surge protector is not what i needed (though I did buy a new one to replace the old one). most indoor surge protector, even the very expensive ones, are only rated against so high of a surge/so many joules. lightning strikes often exceed that.

now, back to my original questions i posted this morning, any responses to that?

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by smail.nathan

i did. full surge protector with battery backup. it didn't prevent it. our cable box outside was struck by lightning. the strike traveled through the cable, into the house, through coax, through my surge protector (and yes, my coax is connected to my surge protector as well), into my cable box, through my hdmi cable to my tv, and friend the main board.

so, no, a new surge protector is not what i needed (though I did buy a new one to replace the old one). most indoor surge protector, even the very expensive ones, are only rated against so high of a surge/so many joules. lightning strikes often exceed that.

now, back to my original questions i posted this morning, any responses to that?

That must have been a hell of a storm.
As far as the reflection you are getting from the kitchen lights, is there any way that you can put up curtains to divide the two rooms, or replace kitchen lights with dimmer ones while TV is on? Unfortunately it is hard to give good advice when too much ambient light is present

[smail.nathan]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

That must have been a hell of a storm.
As far as the reflection you are getting from the kitchen lights, is there any way that you can put up curtains to divide the two rooms, or replace kitchen lights with dimmer ones while TV is on? Unfortunately it is hard to give good advice when too much ambient light is present

it was a hell of a storm. all our surrounding neighbors in our housing development lost major appliances and entire power outlets fried. next door neighbor also had ceramic tile in bathroom crack from lightning strike. another nighbor her her fencing destroyed by lightning strike.

it sucked.

curtain - no go. wife would NEVER go for that.

in terms of the lights, i would need to switch out the bulbs anytime the tv is on?

again, i never had to do this with my ZT plamsa, or the (shudder) Samsung LCD i owned before that. why do i need to with this OLED? it just doesn't seem right.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by smail.nathan

it was a hell of a storm. all our surrounding neighbors in our housing development lost major appliances and entire power outlets fried. next door neighbor also had ceramic tile in bathroom crack from lightning strike. another nighbor her her fencing destroyed by lightning strike.

it sucked.

curtain - no go. wife would NEVER go for that.

in terms of the lights, i would need to switch out the bulbs anytime the tv is on?

again, i never had to do this with my ZT plamsa, or the (shudder) Samsung LCD i owned before that. why do i need to with this OLED? it just doesn't seem right.

I assume there is no way that you could rearrange the TV room so that the kitchen lights won't directly reflect onto the screen

[smail.nathan]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I assume there is no way that you could rearrange the TV room so that the kitchen lights won't directly reflect onto the screen

I wish there was. but no, there's not. again, i still don't understand why this wouldn't be an issue with the ZT in the same place or the previous LCD I had before the ZT.

[punisher]

you sure you want an OLED???..I would hate to see one get cooked.

[Deciazulado]

The OLED might have a glossier (darker) "surface" and gloss reflects (shows) light sources more. (The magenta tint to the reflection must be from the reflection coating transmission characteristics killing the green (brighter) part of the light spectrum) (so dim red/blue (magenta) remains)

Mmm green lightbulbs + green curtains or a shade on the top part near the ceiling to hide the kitchen bulb (if that's what's showing up on the surface)?

Maybe slightly changing the angle of the TV towards the light source might take it out of the frame?

Light sources reflections

Daylight from window:
daylightreflection.jpg

A lamp pointing directly at the screen, no other lights on the room:
glare.jpg

[RockyIII]

Do what I do. Mount your Oled on a wheeled stand so that you can move it anytime at your own convenience

[westom]

Originally Posted by smail.nathan

so, no, a new surge protector is not what i needed (though I did buy a new one to replace the old one). most indoor surge protector, even the very expensive ones, are only rated against so high of a surge/so many joules. lightning strikes often exceed that.

No plug-in protector is rated to protect from destructive surges. It only claims to protect from surges typically too small to overwhelm protection already inside appliances.

Your cable (if properly installed) already has best protection installed for free. What probably happened? First, to have damage, both an incoming and outgoing path must exist. If it was incoming on cable, then what was the outgoing path through that TV? No outgoing path means no electricity called a surge.

Second, most common incoming path is AC electric. Incoming to a TV, and outgoing via cable and cable box. Then outgoing to what a destructive surge hunts for - earth ground. Your cable is already earthed BEFORE entering. So that is not a incoming path. That surge was all but invited inside. It went hunting for earth ground - incoming to all appliances - via AC electric. Only damaged was an appliance that made a best connection to earth. Destructively through a TV connected to cable's surge protection and earth ground.

Often, damage is on the outgoing path - a cable's connection to that TV.

Cable and phone lines already have best protection; required by code. AC electric does not. No code requires protection on AC electric. You must demand a 'whole house' protector. Its earth ground must be single point earth ground. All other incoming wires (ie phone, cable TV, etc) also must connect to what actually does the protection - earth ground.

Avert future damage by earthing a surge BEFORE it can enter. TV cable already has protection - a direct and low impedance connection to an earthing electrode. AC electric cannot connect directly. So a 'whole house' protector makes that low impedance (ie less than 10 foot) connection. If a 'whole house' protector is not connected low impedance to earth, then expect future damage. To TV or other expensive appliances.

Meanwhile, TV manufacturers make a screen that eliminates glare. It is available in LCD, LED, and OLED technology. Unfortunately, its name completely escapes me. Often it must be special ordered. To eliminate a reflection also known as glare.

[smail.nathan]

Originally Posted by westom

No plug-in protector is rated to protect from destructive surges. It only claims to protect from surges typically too small to overwhelm protection already inside appliances.

Your cable (if properly installed) already has best protection installed for free. What probably happened? First, to have damage, both an incoming and outgoing path must exist. If it was incoming on cable, then what was the outgoing path through that TV? No outgoing path means no electricity called a surge.

Second, most common incoming path is AC electric. Incoming to a TV, and outgoing via cable and cable box. Then outgoing to what a destructive surge hunts for - earth ground. Your cable is already earthed BEFORE entering. So that is not a incoming path. That surge was all but invited inside. It went hunting for earth ground - incoming to all appliances - via AC electric. Only damaged was an appliance that made a best connection to earth. Destructively through a TV connected to cable's surge protection and earth ground.

Often, damage is on the outgoing path - a cable's connection to that TV.

Cable and phone lines already have best protection; required by code. AC electric does not. No code requires protection on AC electric. You must demand a 'whole house' protector. Its earth ground must be single point earth ground. All other incoming wires (ie phone, cable TV, etc) also must connect to what actually does the protection - earth ground.

Avert future damage by earthing a surge BEFORE it can enter. TV cable already has protection - a direct and low impedance connection to an earthing electrode. AC electric cannot connect directly. So a 'whole house' protector makes that low impedance (ie less than 10 foot) connection. If a 'whole house' protector is not connected low impedance to earth, then expect future damage. To TV or other expensive appliances.

Meanwhile, TV manufacturers make a screen that eliminates glare. It is available in LCD, LED, and OLED technology. Unfortunately, its name completely escapes me. Often it must be special ordered. To eliminate a reflection also known as glare.

wow! what a post! thanks for the inight! and i actually installed a whole home surge protector in my breaker box last night. hopefuly this protects me next time i get a severe storm like that.

[westom]

Originally Posted by smail.nathan

and i actually installed a whole home surge protector in my breaker box last night. hopefuly this protects me next time i get a severe storm like that.

Protectors are simple science. It only does what a hardwire does better. Most attention should focus on what does all protection - single point earth ground and a connection to that earth ground.

For example, if a bare copper ground wire goes up over a foundation and down to earth, then protection has been compromised. Wire is too long. Sharp bends exist over the foundation. Wire is not separated from other non-grounding wires. So impedance is excessive.

Best is a wire through a foundation and down to the earthing electrode. To be shorter. To eliminate sharp bends. Not inside metallic conduit.

Single point earth ground means TV cable and 'installed for free' telco protector must also make a low impedance (ie less than 10 foot) connection to that same earthing electrode.

Any expansion of single point ground means a protector is even more effective. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground.

Lightning can be 20,000 amps. So a minimal 'whole house' protector should be at least 50,000 amps. A protector must be sized to earth direct strikes - without failing.

[RockyIII]

Is the new firmware update available only for download on USB stick?

[RockyIII]

5% and 10%...how bad is It?


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[JustThatPenguin]

So I've been reading reviews on the c6. And I am still getting conflicting reports that the e6 and g6 are brighter and slightly better than the b and c. Can anyone owners confirm before I bite on the c6 tomorrow?

Debating between the 55inch e6 or the 65inch c6. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[zubinh]

65" B6 is back down to $3995 - No sales tax from Crutchfield. Do I jump on it or wait till Black Friday? Decisions Decisions.....

If I buy now, my Citibank credit card price protection is 60days - not long enough to get me to Black Friday.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by JustThatPenguin

So I've been reading reviews on the c6. And I am still getting conflicting reports that the e6 and g6 are brighter and slightly better than the b and c. Can anyone owners confirm before I bite on the c6 tomorrow?

Debating between the 55inch e6 or the 65inch c6. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If you already have surround sound and don't mind the curved screen you should go with the C6

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[zoran]

Originally Posted by zubinh

65" B6 is back down to $3995 - No sales tax from Crutchfield. Do I jump on it or wait till Black Friday? Decisions Decisions.....

If I buy now, my Citibank credit card price protection is 60days - not long enough to get me to Black Friday.

60 days still won't. Push u to Black Friday I am afraid.