4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

The 55 (and 65) have a choice of color grading space settings (to make life easier), which I can post pics of later for illustrative purposes when I have more time…..and of course, the camera can record in RAW, i.e. RAW is sensor native data and does not apply any color space nor log curve. RAW is always recorded by 16bit Scene linear.

S-Gamut3.Cine/S-Log3 color reproduction was designed slightly wider than P3 to provide sufficient room for grading, so manual grading for P3 is easier.



Another color grading space setting available is called S-Gamut3/S-Log3 which is almost as large as the camera native color space, and wider than S-Gamut3.Cine. This space is workable for ACES and ITU-R BT.2020, if needed.



I would say that all of the above is fairly well known amongst the professional cine camera community…..at least those familiar with Sony cine cameras, but one thing which is rather unknown and I guess could be considered quite cutting edge info is offered at the bottom of the cartoon included in this post - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post11036609

Note: if you’ve already finished your project and desire to remaster for optimal HDR, best to have shot in 16bit linear RAW ->16bit OpenEXR file format (sorta keeping in an ACES framework) -> OpenEXR 16bit master (this workflow having already been successfully performed at Technicolor for a fairly recent feature film involving the interaction between humans and mammals ).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

IF I had the cash.....

Good to hear.
People should note there is a hyperlink to schools in other parts of the world too.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

...latest (July) SMPTE meetings (down under)

This may be less technical for easier-on-the-mind reading (and listening).

Not from the SMPTE Technology Committees(and subgroups meetings) per se in Australia, but rather from the exhibition floor and not Bram, as in Stoker’s Dracula , but from another Bram discussing the challenges for display manufacturers with regards to producing HDR tvs/monitors (esp. OLED manufacturers)…..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KddA...utu.be&t=6m30s

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

ACES

Reminds me, tomorrow and following that, ACES at SIGGRAPH 2015 in L.A. -
http://www.oscars.org/science-techno...-content-tab-5

[Spike M.]

"We don't compress it. We are putting over 400 megabits per second on the screen, and we can do more." - IMAX president

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/I...301930881.html

The journalist obviously meant megabytes, not bits. Looks like he's claiming an IMAX laser DCP of something like Interstellar comes in at around 4 TB. Hm.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by scorpiontail60

Hispasat has a 4K TV channel that anyone with a satellite dish can view for free on the Amazonas 3 satellite @ 61W.
The tech specs are:
12012 V 30000 DVB-S2 8PSK with a FEC of 2/3

It's 3840x2160 progressive L5.1 H.264 video @ 35 Mbps with a framerate of 23.976 fps.

scorpiontail60, I finally got a card (TBS6983) and another dish mounted so I could tune other satellites. Checked LyngSat for 12012 and it does not match your info. Are you still receiving Hispasat? If so, can you provide more info? Any other FTA 4K/UHD available that you know of?

[Penton-Man]

Wendell (from North Carolina). Long time no see/hear from in this thread.

Last night, my wife and I watched the Blu-ray of The Longest Ride. At times, we both had tears in our eyes. I wasn’t aware of the lineage of some of the actors ….http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2726560/...ef_=tt_trv_trv

Good to see you.

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Spike M.

"We don't compress it. We are putting over 400 megabits per second on the screen, and we can do more." - IMAX president

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/I...301930881.html

The journalist obviously meant megabytes, not bits. Looks like he's claiming an IMAX laser DCP of something like Interstellar comes in at around 4 TB. Hm.

Having seen movies in both the new IMAX at PSC and the Cinerama down the street I would say I vastly prefer the Cinerama. The image looks pristine whereas the IMAX image looks a bit too processed. It is also a wider screen than the IMAX and I'm not fond of the upsizing to fit the IMAX screen when I can get the native aspect at the Cinerama along with better seats and Atmos sound. The sound at the new IMAX is quite good though, a big improvement from where they were pre overhaul. I also was not a fan of their 3D at all, glasses were uncomfortable, they warp the image near the outside of the lens and they make the screen look smaller due to perspective.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Wendell (from North Carolina). Long time no see/hear from in this thread.

This forum is usually checked ever morning by me to see what’s happening but I don’t participate that much in threads.

Will have to checkout the The Longest Ride disc. It appears it was shot in the Piedmont and costal area’s of NC. I live in the western part of NC, Hendersonville area, located in the Appalachian mountains.

[Spike M.]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Having seen movies in both the new IMAX at PSC and the Cinerama down the street I would say I vastly prefer the Cinerama. The image looks pristine whereas the IMAX image looks a bit too processed. It is also a wider screen than the IMAX and I'm not fond of the upsizing to fit the IMAX screen when I can get the native aspect at the Cinerama along with better seats and Atmos sound. The sound at the new IMAX is quite good though, a big improvement from where they were pre overhaul. I also was not a fan of their 3D at all, glasses were uncomfortable, they warp the image near the outside of the lens and they make the screen look smaller due to perspective.

I didn't know the Cinerama went up to 97 ft wide until I google checked it after reading this. That's neck and neck with the widest IMAX screen that isn't in Sydney (Metreon, San Fran, 80x100ft). I'm that much more excited to head up for The Hateful Eight. I've asked you before but it must've been drowned out by other comments by the time you visited whatever thread it was, but where do you think the best seats are? From the google maps tour on their website I was thinking that first row of the second tier...

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

This forum is usually checked ever morning by me to see what’s happening....

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Will have to checkout the The Longest Ride disc. It appears it was shot in the Piedmont and costal area’s of NC. I live in the western part of NC, Hendersonville area, located in the Appalachian mountains.

I see. As an aside, on a personal note: from my footloose and fancy free days, I’m more of a Blue Ridge Mountain boy.

My wife actually introduced me into getting the Blu-ray movie for us to watch, as she had read one of the Writer’s novels previously. Nicholas Sparks lives in N.C. with his family…..
http://nicholassparks.com/about/

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

So, continuing, inquiring minds might ask….What be thee HDR progress news, if any, out of another standards organization…namely that of SMPTE?

Well, as I’m typing up this post, although, as one can see on the o-fficial website….https://www.smpte.org/standards/meeting-reports



At the current time, only the meeting from March in San Jose ^ is available for perusal right now, at this moment. But for those who just can’t wait, I can inform folks a little about HDR progress from the latest SMPTE meeting this month (July) from down under. Namely, regarding the project - https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=241

The study group cancelled their 2-hour planned meeting during this round. Discussion has ceased whilst the draft report (now at version 32) had become somewhat disjointed…is being restructured to make it easier to comment upon.

SMPTE plans to publish a Study Group report on HDR in the 2nd half of the year which is hoped to educate and highlight issues regarding standardization for the content mastering and broadcast ecosystem.

As far as dynamic metadata (info likewise not yet updated on the o-fficial webpage as I type this)…. https://kws.smpte.org/kws/public/pro...project_id=294

The structure of the document suite has been revised as follows:
Document suite:
ST 2094-1 Core Components
ST 2094-2 Syntax and Carrier
ST 2094-10 Application #1
ST 2094-20 Application #2
ST 2094-30 Application #3
ST 2094-40 Application #4

This reflects the four detailed method disclosures received from Dolby, Philips, Technicolor, and Samsung which are sufficiently different to make it impossible to rationalize into a single method. Further Parts will be added if more proponents submit disclosures.

Update to thee above ^ (from July 27) past post:
The O-fficial report coverage of the most recent block meetings from down under just published (today) - https://www.smpte.org/standards/meeting-reports

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

As an aside, on a personal note: from my footloose and fancy free days, I’m more of a Blue Ridge Mountain boy.

As the crow flies, it is 13 miles (29 drive miles) from our house to the Pisgah Inn and Restaurant on the Blue Ridge Parkway. We have toured most most of the mountain ranges in the US and loved them all for what they are but the Blue Ridge and Smokies remain our favorites.

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Spike M.

I didn't know the Cinerama went up to 97 ft wide until I google checked it after reading this. That's neck and neck with the widest IMAX screen that isn't in Sydney (Metreon, San Fran, 80x100ft). I'm that much more excited to head up for The Hateful Eight. I've asked you before but it must've been drowned out by other comments by the time you visited whatever thread it was, but where do you think the best seats are? From the google maps tour on their website I was thinking that first row of the second tier...

Yes, first or second row of second tier. After that last rows of first tier. Good luck!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

not Bram, as in Stoker’s Dracula , but from another Bram discussing the challenges for display manufacturers with regards to producing HDR tvs/monitors (esp. OLED manufacturers)…..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KddA...utu.be&t=6m30s

Public Service Announcement (for professionals):
IBC B-Stock Announcement from FSI - http://www.flandersscientific.com/index/news.php

Disclosure: I have no financial or proprietary interest in FSI, nor do I have any personal relationship with any of the company’s employees.

[Penton-Man]

Fox Advanced Tech group has generated some 2160p59.94 HDR (PQ EOTF) P3 color space footage (02:50 TRT) of a fire pit (think log-burning). It’s free to be used for lab work, demos, trade shows, etc. The material be in TIFF files. Fox requests that you send them a >= 1 TB USB drive for the dept. to copy the files to and a return shipping sticker. Contact Thomas Edwards in the smart people dept.

Have a good weekend folks and stay cool (don't forget yur pets).

[Penton-Man]

Reminder

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by spectre08

I didn't realize it until I looked into it recently just how many movie even TODAY are being made with 2K digital intermediates.

Mad Mad: Fury Road
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Jurassic World


The age of the 2K DI is a dark period in this history of film technology, and one that needs to die FAST.


When UltraHD Blu-ray is in high gear there's going to be an interesting distribution of films that benefit from the format. With the exception of a few films from very recently that have been mastered in 4K DI, and a few films that were all film with no DI (pretty much just Christopher Nolan's films), the only releases that will be really good will be pre-2000.

George Lucas should be tarred and feathered.

And all those movies are fake 3D movies as well.

Native vs Fake 3D list:

http://realorfake3d.com/

3D needs to die fast. I am glad 3D did not made it to the UHD spec. 3D is blocking the 4K path, real hard. I have seen an inside list of Sony, and lots of 3D movies are 2 DI. And some 2D versions did get 4K DI's.

The Smurfs 2 is a good example: 4K Mastered (2D only)

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

The Smurfs 2 is a good example: 4K Mastered (2D only)

That reference to 2D only is (I believe) regarding the expanded color.

Both versions 3D and 2D I would think were taken from the same 4K DI master. But even though Smurfs 2 is mastered in 4k, that only applies to the live action scenes, not the animation (which happens to be a huge chuck of the movie).

[Geoff D]

That'd better not be a launch title from Sony.