Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[redxrebellion]

Yeah I'm not really down with the idea of Luke going darkside either. That would be taking a step back I think.

What I've been thinking about is this whole notion of the lines between good and evil being blurred. This is an interesting concept because what if one or some of the major characters think they are doing good or are on the good side but are actually bad?

Kinda goes along with what obi-wan told Luke in ROTJ. Something like "you'll find the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view"

Perception is reality

Can make for some exciting storytelling.

[HD Canuck]

Originally Posted by redxrebellion

What I've been thinking about is this whole notion of the lines between good and evil being blurred. This is an interesting concept because what if one or some of the major characters think they are doing good or are on the good side but are actually bad?

Star Wars Episode VII: The Facts of Life

The opening crawl will read...
You take the good, you take the bad,
you take them both and there you have
The facts of life, the facts of life.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by redxrebellion

Yeah I'm not really down with the idea of Luke going darkside either. That would be taking a step back I think.

What I've been thinking about is this whole notion of the lines between good and evil being blurred. This is an interesting concept because what if one or some of the major characters think they are doing good or are on the good side but are actually bad?

Kinda goes along with what obi-wan told Luke in ROTJ. Something like "you'll find the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view"

Perception is reality

Can make for some exciting storytelling.

There was no ambiguity in Star Wars before...even when Palpatine was trying to mess with Anakin's mind, it was pretty clear even to a four year old Palpatine was evil and Anakin was making bad choices. I personally don't want ambigiuty in Star Wars. They aren't films directed by Clint Eastwood...they're Saturday afternoon space adventures told with style. Good guys and bad guys so obvious you could turn the sound off and know the difference.

[Geoff D]

Sergio Leone's Star Wars. That would've been awesome.

[jedilips]

I said early on that I would love for Episode VII to be a remake of Unforgiven. It would totally lend itself to a "getting the band back together" vengeance tale. Might be too dark for this material, but I'd love it to be a space western.

[aiman04]

Star Wars was written as a space western if I can remember correctly.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Star Wars was written as a space western if I can remember correctly.

I think you could loosely compare a lot of things to a "western."

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I think you could loosely compare a lot of things to a "western."

I mean the the outlaw nature of handling things, you know when people take justice into their own hands. Like the classic Han/Greedo scene.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Star Wars was written as a space western if I can remember correctly.

Lucas said it's got overtones of The Searchers (like when Luke comes back to the burning homestead, this was also riffed on again with Shmi's capture by the Sand People in Ep II) amongst others.

[klauswhereareyou]

When is 1st unit filming suppossed to wrap on this?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by klauswhereareyou

When is 1st unit filming suppossed to wrap on this?

Not long now. They've been shooting for months, had to shoot around Ford, then went on a two-week hiatus. Should be wrapping soon.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Star Wars was written as a space western if I can remember correctly.

It's a bunch of stuff besides Westerns: Flash Gordon serials, Kurosawa samurai epics, Errol Flynn's Robin Hood, etc. etc.

[aiman04]

Sheev Palpatine

[redxrebellion]

Anyone else think max Von sydows character might be Kanen Jarrus from the rebels cartoon? The ages fit

[Falaskan]

I was thinking of all the rumors about Luke recently, and then I thought of Yoda's warning in ROTJ, "Once you start down the dark path, forever it dominates your destiny."

According to that all Luke has to do is make the slightest compromise and then be doomed forever. :P

[aiman04]

Description of the rumored new U-Wing

"The new U-Wing Fighter by artist Fausto De Martini kicks so much ass and evokes a deep seated feeling of “holy crap, that’s Star Wars!” The design really feels like something that belongs in the sequel to Return of the Jedi. If you’re familiar with the cartoon series Droids it would sometimes hit the right design beats to capture that special essence and this ship does that but better than that series ever did.

[Show spoiler]First lets describe the shape of the U-wing Fighter. The “U” is more of a half circle. It’s a very wide “U.” The “U” shape is not very thick, no thicker than the body of the ship and the cockpit. It is basically a “U” with a Y-wing styled body coming out of the center of the “U” in essence. Honestly, the U is more like a “C” but the artwork says “U-wing” so I’m going with that.

The “U” has two thruster engines at each end. There is a center rear thruster as well. So there’s a thruster in the middle rear and on the ends of the “U.” The thrusters on the ends of the “U” have small short wings that go up and down with laser guns on them (the wings kind of evoke the B-wing).

The cockpit and body connects to the center of the U. The cockpit reminds me of the front of the the Phantom from Star Wars Rebels, however, the cockpit is rounded like a Mig 29 jet. Underneath the cockpit, there are two laser guns just like on the Phantom as well. Another similarity is the coloring and the yellow paint along the trim and the thrusters.

Just behind the cockpit, Artoo-Detoo sits just how he does in the classic X-wing designs. Artoo ends up in many of these ship designs.

The straight on look of the design if it were flying at you is almost TIE Fighter-like in a sense. You see the center cockpit the body and wings that go straight up and down. Don’t get me wrong, it isn’t like a TIE at all in appearance but the straight on design is.

The cockpit is dark but I almost think it holds two people."

To me, this description reminds me of the T-6 Shuttle that appears in several episodes of Star Wars: The Clone Wars. After seeing many classic ships like the Millennium Falcon and X-Wings are coming back in Episode VII, it's refreshing to hear about some brand new designs, but also ones that may draw inspiration from ships we've seen in the past. As always this is just a rumor, and concept art at that, so take what you read here with a grain of salt.

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/20...arfighter.html

[Kirk Out]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

I was thinking of all the rumors about Luke recently, and then I thought of Yoda's warning in ROTJ, "Once you start down the dark path, forever it dominates your destiny."

According to that all Luke has to do is make the slightest compromise and then be doomed forever. :P

nope that logic is already flawed as shown in ROTJ. anakin came back so yoda was wrong .

[Riddler The Slag]

You get Concept Art!! And You Get Concept Art! Concept Art for everyone!!!!

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/enor...oncept-art-978

[006]

Looks really cool. Potential spoilers though for anyone staying away.

[jedilips]

yeah big time spoilers. so these are either the source of all of the recently leaked info and are just coming out now as evidence of that information or Abrams is a master of misdirection and had these created to feed the fake leaks.