Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Nada]

Originally Posted by MasturB

So can anyone answer, did this movie treat the prequels as a red-headed stepchild? Or did it actually pay homage or pay respects to the prequels.

For all the hate the prequels get, I'd think it'd be an ultimate slap to the face of Lucas if they ended up pissing on the prequels in this.

I think there are a few nods, but generally it doesn't. But then this takes place 50-60 years after the events of Episode 1-3, so there's not really much they could reference I suppose. Most of the characters from that time are dead by this point.

[Shin sam]

Originally Posted by MasturB

So can anyone answer, did this movie treat the prequels as a red-headed stepchild? Or did it actually pay homage or pay respects to the prequels.

For all the hate the prequels get, I'd think it'd be an ultimate slap to the face of Lucas if they ended up pissing on the prequels in this.

Just got back. No prequel nods at all.

[kylor]

Originally Posted by MasturB

So can anyone answer, did this movie treat the prequels as a red-headed stepchild? Or did it actually pay homage or pay respects to the prequels.

For all the hate the prequels get, I'd think it'd be an ultimate slap to the face of Lucas if they ended up pissing on the prequels in this.

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There wasn't much prequel stuff at all. Everything was mostly for the OT.

[kylor]

Originally Posted by Nada

I think there are a few nods, but generally it doesn't. But then this takes place 50-60 years after the events of Episode 1-3, so there's not really much they could reference I suppose. Most of the characters from that time are dead by this point.

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The only real nod would be if the planet Starkiller Base destroyed was in fact Coruscant. I highly doubt that though.

[Green4Head]

Originally Posted by kylor

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The only real nod would be if the planet Starkiller Base destroyed was in fact Coruscant. I highly doubt that though.

i thought

[Show spoiler]it was pretty clear that it was as it was described as destroying the republic and looked very Coruscant-like without being names as such

?

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Apart from Ebert

And Pauline Kael, Andrew Sarris, André Bazin, Vincent Canby, James Agee, François Truffaut, J. Hoberman and others.

There's a big difference between a professional film critic who has studied art, film history, criticism, culture, general history, writing, etc., and some ass with an opinion, just as there's a big difference between someone posting a comment on a Board like this one and someone who writes a novel that wins the Man Booker Prize or the National Book Awards or who creates a great piece of investigative journalism.

This mantra that critics' opinions are no different than than the opinion of the average Joe is completely absurd.

Although slightly different, Isaac Asimov once wrote, “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Green4Head

Anyone else distracted by

[Show spoiler]Carrie's plastic looking face? I just couldn't make the link with younger Leia in either her look or the way her voice sounds now

Welcome to real life. People age and change, although in Carrie's case, a lot of her aging is due to substance abuse.

Return of the Jedi was released 32 years ago. Let's see what you look like in 32 years.

[The Fallen Deity]

Just got back from watching it with my 9 year old sister.

I was going to go alone at first but she really wanted to see it as well bless her.

All I can say is wow! This is more like it! It puts the prequels to shame.

Well done to everyone to who was involved in the making of this film.

There were a lot of people leaving that screening really happy, myself included.

An easy 5/5.

[Nada]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

And Pauline Kael, Andrew Sarris, André Bazin, Vincent Canby, James Agee, François Truffaut, J. Hoberman and others.

There's a big difference between a professional film critic who has studied art, film history, criticism, culture, general history, writing, etc., and some ass with an opinion, just as there's a big difference between someone posting a comment on a Board like this one and someone who writes a novel that wins the Man Booker Prize or the National Book Awards or who creates a great piece of investigative journalism.

This mantra that critics' opinions are no different than than the opinion of the average Joe is completely absurd.

Although slightly different, Isaac Asimov once wrote, “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”

The trouble is that 99% of critics are just "asses with opinions". The days of Kael, Ebert, and so on are long gone. There are a couple of noteworthy critics out there, but the vast majority are utterly useless and the lowest form of life - mindless sheep with superficial thoughts.

[Leonidas King]

Are you guys watching in 3D or will 2D experience be suffice for this?

[Spirit Zero]

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[tigertron]

Originally Posted by Shin sam

Just got back. No prequel nods at all.

There were a few subtles i.e.

[Show spoiler]mentioning a clone army, Kylo Ren's appearance mirroring Anakin's etc.

As Nada said though, the prequels were like 60 years ago, much has changed and so there's not much you can really reference.

[Green4Head]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

Welcome to real life. People age and change, although in Carrie's case, a lot of her aging is due to substance abuse.

Return of the Jedi was released 32 years ago. Let's see what you look like in 32 years.

Well I will certainly have

[Show spoiler]a face that moves with wrinkles. Han and Luke both looked like their naturally older selves. I literally couldn't equate this Leia with her younger character at all, seemed like a different person and took me out of the film a bit TBH.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by MasturB

Did anyone see what the jackass Pharma CEO Skreli said when he got arrested?

As he was being brought into the cop car he shouted to paparazzi and reporters "Luke dies in the first 20 minutes!"

I'm gonna be extremely pissed off if true. I've avoided spoilers the entire week up to this moment.

And yet you post it as an unmarked spoiler, what just in case it was real??

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by Leonidas_King

Are you guys watching in 3D or will 2D experience be suffice for this?

It looks great in 2D.

[kylor]

Originally Posted by Green4Head

i thought

[Show spoiler]it was pretty clear that it was as it was described as destroying the republic and looked very Coruscant-like without being names as such

?

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It's not confirmed to be Coruscant yet, I hope J.J. gives some clarity on this.

[Shallow_]

Originally Posted by wormraper

I think ignoring the prequels IS giving it the respect it DESERVES

Your loss, kinda feel bad for you though, only getting half the Starwars experience..

[tigertron]

Originally Posted by kylor

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It's not confirmed to be Coruscant yet, I hope J.J. gives some clarity on this.

When I watched the film I thought it probably was, but wasn't fully convinced. As you said, hopefully there will be some clarity given sometime after the dust has settled.

[Show spoiler]People are saying it's Hosnian Prime or Chandrilla. I'm hoping that in VIII they actually go to Coruscant if it does still exist, because I love the view of the skyline - it was amazing in ROTS.

[Jack Burton]

My two favourite scenes both involve storm troppers. When

[Show spoiler] Rey tell him to leave his gun on the way out, and those two who turn around when they realise the Kylo Ren is throwing a fit inside the room, laugh my socks off!!!

[UniSol GR77]

Originally Posted by wormraper

I think ignoring the prequels IS giving it the respect it DESERVES

Jesus, this is the very first time me and you work together.

Originally Posted by Terminated

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We Italians do it better.