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Old 01-29-2014, 11:41 PM   #61
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Daft Punk ? Julie Gayet ?
My mind works in mysterious ways….part of your handle (GOAL) prompted me to look at your location….France, which reminded me of Paris….which reminded me of a certain flick in the past…which reminded me that it was exhibited at the lab chosen back in the day as the facility to test D-Cinema spec/technology…..which reminded me that the flick was mastered in 4K (back in ’06)….which reminded me I had forgotten all about it.

I posted the result of those synaptic connections in the language of love as a thank you to our French-speaking readers with a link to the pertinent pdf in the 2nd paragraph here….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...is#post8714645
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Old 02-02-2014, 03:18 PM   #62
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If I'd have a 4K TV and the films are really 4K quality then here are some:

All Stanley Kubrick's films
All Quentin Tarantino's films
All Christopher Nolan's films (can't wait to see TDK and TDKR IMAX scenes in 4K!!!)
All Martin Scorsese films
All David Fincher films
All Coen Brothers films
All Alfred Hitchcock films
Lots of James Cameron films
Lots of Ridley Scott films
Pretty much all Steven Spielberg films
Pretty much all Danny Boyle films
Some Clint Eastwood films
Snyder films: Watchmen, 300, Man of Steel (yeah I said it)
PIXAR films
Disney's classic (Beauty and the Beast, Lion King, etc.)
The Godfather Part I & II
LOTR, Hobbit
The REAL original Star Wars trilogy (i.e. no digital work, I want the real negatives to get the 4K treatment dammit!)
Ben-Hur
Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy likely
Shawshank Redemption
The Matrix
The Deer Hunter
One flew over the Cuckoo's Nest
The Silence of the Lambs (can't wait to watch it in real good quality for once)
James Bond films: Dr. No, From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, Casino Royale, Skyfall for instance
Dollars Trilogy
Once upon a time in the West
Bourne trilogy
Harry Potter saga
X-Men, X2, XMFC
Apocalypse Now
Heat
Gravity
The Exorcist
Predator
Man on Fire
Braveheart
Apocalypto
Abre los Ojos
Karakter
Prisoners
Dances with Wolves
Dracula (Francis Ford Coppola)
The Tree of Life
Kramer vs Kramer
The Cell, The Fall
IMAX mentions (because IMAX): Catching Fire, MI: Ghost Protocol, Star Trek into darkness, Hubble

TV series: or, who I'd watch again in 4K:
The Sopranos
Game of Thrones
Six Feet Under
Dexter (S1/S2/S3/S4)
Heroes S1
Rome
True Blood (at least S1)
Sitcoms: Friends, Seinfeld (though, might not watch everything again, quite much )
Docu: Planet Earth (**** yeah, that'd be amazing!)

Then again… These are A LOT of films to have in 4K… Probably won't collect them all but I desire to see them in 4K.
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Old 02-02-2014, 06:08 PM   #63
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Yes, quite a few I on that list I would like also.

Oh my goodness! Just heard Philip Seymour Hoffman has died. Such sad news.
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:01 PM   #64
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Your 32 and you are going to write off any future advancements.? I find that baffling.

Sorry but I dont fine it baffling at all.
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:53 PM   #65
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Sorry but I dont fine it baffling at all.
Congratulations, I do!
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Old 02-02-2014, 08:39 PM   #66
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Then again… These are A LOT of films to have in 4K… Probably won't collect them all but I desire to see them in 4K.
Lets just hope there are competent reviewers of UHD movies that will know if any given title released in UHD is worth an upgrade over the 1080 (Blu-ray) counter part.

Most every Blu-ray title that I purchased was an upgrade over the DVD counter part. Always exceptions but none were the fault of the BD format.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:16 AM   #67
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Lets just hope there are competent reviewers of UHD movies that will know if any given title released in UHD is worth an upgrade over the 1080 (Blu-ray) counter part.

Most every Blu-ray title that I purchased was an upgrade over the DVD counter part. Always exceptions but none were the fault of the BD format.
Yeah that's a pity. It's always looking which blu-ray has the best quality. You can't just buy something because you like it, because it might very well not be such good quality as you've hoped.. I think that's a shame… Hope this will not be the case with 4K.
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Well, my favorite movies aren't that particularly visually striking so I won't be getting movies I already own on Blu-ray to 4K. Requiem for a Dream does have some beautiful cinematography but I wasn't that impressed with it's Blu transfer. Fight Club, and other favorites definitely don't see upgrading. The 4K's I do buy will movies I don't own already.
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Well, my favorite movies aren't that particularly visually striking so I won't be getting movies I already own on Blu-ray to 4K. Requiem for a Dream does have some beautiful cinematography but I wasn't that impressed with it's Blu transfer. Fight Club, and other favorites definitely don't see upgrading. The 4K's I do buy will movies I don't own already.
I have also told myself that. Need to stick to new releases. Then I think about my fave films and I know I will be tempted.
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man, everyone's complaining about the mastering of Blu-ray's ("even my upscaled DVD look better" WTF? -=roll-my-eyes=-).

I can't imagine for 4K...
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:00 PM   #71
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I just switch off when non-techies spout their bullshit. Can't be bothered arguing or explaining.
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Old 02-05-2014, 10:48 PM   #72
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A LOT of the films listed here can't be in true 4K without having all the visual effects, color timing, etc. redone completely (which is not likely to happen). Since the fairly early 2000s pretty much all major productions have gone through a digital intermediate stage where the film was scanned into a computerized system for editing/color correction/effects and the like, and then printed back onto film for distribution to theatres. Until very recently this was never done at 4K... and it still usually isn't, though it's gaining traction. The norm is 2K, and further back than a year or two ago pretty much EVERYTHING was done on a 2K intermediate. Unless you wanted to view the unprocessed film footage, 2K is the max resolution you're going to get out of these movies without going back to the original elements and redoing everything. Even some recent blockbusters like The Hobbit movies are mastered in 2K.

And of course, that doesn't even touch on the great number of movies that were shot, fully or partially, in digital 2K or 1080p in the first place and can simply never go higher without upscaling...

Honestly, that's one of the main reasons I'm not terribly excited for 4K just yet. Pre-digital intermediate films can be rescanned in 4K, which is great, and we're now moving towards native 4K mastering for more films, but there's about a decade worth of movies that just cannot be in 4K.
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Old 02-05-2014, 11:09 PM   #73
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Yeah, it's kinda funny that, in this big push for 4K, someone forgot to tell the movie studios about it when it comes to making new flicks. Heck, maybe they did, but the studios just don't give a shit because 4K costs a lot more money.

Perhaps when there is a tangible presence of 4K media in the home (Sony's puck doesn't count) the studios will look more towards that end product and we'll see more 4K finishes, but for now it's the exception, not the norm.
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I just switch off when non-techies spout their bullshit. Can't be bothered arguing or explaining.
Given ‘da boys’ past history with certain specific grievances, since the flick is not completely naturel, it might be interesting to read what their picture quality sense is of The Monuments Men (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...en#post8738273 )

http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/...nts-men-n23306
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Yeah, it's kinda funny that, in this big push for 4K, someone forgot to tell the movie studios about it when it comes to making new flicks. Heck, maybe they did, but the studios just don't give a shit because 4K costs a lot more money.
The costs in regards to processing and storage have come down considerably since the first 4K end-to-end pipeline was built. This is an evolution as there should be a further decline in costs year-over-year in the future.

Plus, given time, DPs will refine their skills with various camera/lens combinations…http://www.theasc.com/asc_blog/paral...r-perceptions/
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Perhaps when there is a tangible presence of 4K media in the home (Sony's puck doesn't count) the studios will look more towards that end product and we'll see more 4K finishes, but for now it's the exception, not the norm.
So is Dolby Vision….more to come on that in a post on the 4K Movies Releases thread, momentarily. Point being, I find the journey to the goal is often what is most exciting and rewarding.
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I have spent more money on Blurays then I did on DVDs. I think with 4K I will be extremely choosy. New movies with excellent transfers I probably would not upgrade to 4K. But a movie like Scarface could definitely benefit from a 4K transfer and I would buy it even though I spent 25 dollars on the Bluray. Movies that have extremely high replay value like Scarface would be great to have in 4K. I own the single releases of Breaking Bad on Blu and those would be very tempting to own in 4K even though they already have good picture.

However I will be waiting however long it takes for 4K TV's and players to become affordable to the general public. I am satisfied with bluray for now.
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I'd like to think I'll be choosy when 4KBD comes around -- but who am I kidding? I'll probably buy everything under the sun
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The costs in regards to processing and storage have come down considerably since the first 4K end-to-end pipeline was built. This is an evolution as there should be a further decline in costs year-over-year in the future.

Plus, given time, DPs will refine their skills with various camera/lens combinations…http://www.theasc.com/asc_blog/paral...r-perceptions/
Sure. It's been, what, nearly a decade since the first true 4K pipeline came online? Costs - which I know nothing specific about, in case you ask - are bound to have come down in the interim and will continue to do so. But there must be a reason why certain studios continue to shun 4K - you yourself expressed puzzlement at Disney going 2K on Saving Mr. Banks - and cost seems the likely answer.

They'll get there eventually I'm sure, but for now we're still seeing most new shows finished in 2K rather than 4K (Sony aside, natch), adding to that ever-growing list of 'people's favourite movies to upgrade to 4K which aren't actually 4K'.
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Sure. It's been, what, nearly a decade since the first true 4K pipeline came online? Costs - which I know nothing specific about, in case you ask - are bound to have come down in the interim and will continue to do so. But there must be a reason why certain studios continue to shun 4K - you yourself expressed puzzlement at Disney going 2K on Saving Mr. Banks - and cost seems the likely answer....
I was as much disgusted as I was puzzled but, never underestimate the bean counters in any company. In fact, Wendell has a right to be concerned that 4K BD will remain 8 bit 4:2:0 Rec. 709, i.e. engineers vs. marketers (with their bean counters as advisors).

Don’t get me wrong. You are correct, despite being shot with 4K (or higher rez cameras)….or shot on celluloid, a major cause for the continued paucity of 4K finishing remains the additional cost charged to clients which still typically runs about 2x or more than that for a 2K finish for the typical feature motion picture that Hollywood studios churn out these days.

Point I was making is that you have to start somewhere in order for the high-rez DI workflow to become commonplace and at least we’ve started….and there has been progress (more efficient codecs, lower storage costs, etc.)

It’s a process.
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