News: displays and their technologies

[nick4Knight]

Nobody on earth needs, and no content demands over 600-800 for full field. So yeah of course when they get to 1500+ nits it's understood thats on 2-10% windows. Against OLED blacks that is insane impact. Far more than MiniLED and FALD LCD of similar brightness "spec" which is the only comparable display tech in price range.

I'm talking the actual real world products the masses of consumers can buy, and impact to the actual eye. It's in the milking that the floor is raised. And people buying LG's B line in 3 or 4 years want them to be still milking it hard so their dollar goes farther.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by nick4Knight

Nobody on earth needs, and no content demands over 600-800 for full field. So yeah of course when they get to 1500+ nits it's understood thats on 2-10% windows. Against OLED blacks that is insane impact. Far more than MiniLED and FALD LCD of similar brightness "spec" which is the only comparable display tech in price range.

I'm talking the actual real world products the masses of consumers can buy, and impact to the actual eye. It's in the milking that the floor is raised. And people buying LG's B line in 3 or 4 years want them to be still milking it hard so their dollar goes farther.

If you read the reviews, even on the latest LGs, yeah they get brighter, but their brightness is undermined by aggressive ABL. Now, I understand why OLED manufacturers employ such a mechanism, burn-in prevention, and panel life. The brighter you make OLEDs the potential for shorter panel life is exacerbated. With Micro-LED we won't have to worry about the brightness of the display shortening panel life. Also, with Micro-LED we may not even need tone mapping, skys the limited with that tech. Micro-LED will be just like having a professional monitor in our homes.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Auditor55

If you read the reviews, even on the latest LGs, yeah they get brighter, but their brightness is undermined by aggressive ABL. Now, I understand why OLED manufacturers employ such a mechanism, burn-in prevention, and panel life. The brighter you make OLEDs the potential for shorter panel life is exacerbated. With Micro-LED we won't have to worry about the brightness of the display shortening panel life. Also, with Micro-LED we may not even need tone mapping, skys the limited with that tech. Micro-LED will be just like having a professional monitor in our homes.

I admire your unconditional love for Micro-LED. When it becomes consumer grade, we can jerk on it lol. At this time, it is clear OLEDs reign supreme.

[Jay Mammoth]

Dudes been talking about those sets for years lol, meanwhile I’m enjoying the hell out of one of the best TVs ever with no aggressive dimming.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by lgans316

I admire your unconditional love for Micro-LED. When it becomes consumer grade, we can jerk on it lol. At this time, it is clear OLEDs reign supreme.

Micro-LEDs are already consumer-grade, but the consumers are being hoodwinked into drinking every last bit of milk of the OLED breast.

[teddyballgame]

We're never gonna get that 10,000 nit beast from 5 years ago are we

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVW2QSYdn3A

[Fendergopher]

Originally Posted by teddyballgame

We're never gonna get that 10,000 nit beast from 5 years ago are we
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVW2QSYdn3A

It's funny looking back at some of those comments, like people calling OLED a "fad" lol.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by Fendergopher

It's funny looking back at some of those comments, like people calling OLED a "fad" lol.

They were quite delusional. Lol

[LexInHD]

So much money has been sunk into OLED R&D and manufacturing lines/processes that it would be financially impossible to move the market to microLED, until the 2030s, if it even gets any manufacturing improvements. It could go like the early 2010s, when everyone moved to LED from Ye Old LCD and DLP and LED has stayed the market-middle norm for many years, gradually losing ground to OLED in recent years. Unless there's a Sweet Jesus God Almighty breakthrough in microLED design and manufacturing that decreases the difficulty of manufacturing and dramatically increases the yields, it will not become a consumer-market TV tech any time soon, no matter what Samsung promises to deliver.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by LexInHD

So much money has been sunk into OLED R&D and manufacturing lines/processes that it would be financially impossible to move the market to microLED, until the 2030s, if it even gets any manufacturing improvements. It could go like the early 2010s, when everyone moved to LED from Ye Old LCD and DLP and LED has stayed the market-middle norm for many years, gradually losing ground to OLED in recent years. Unless there's a Sweet Jesus God Almighty breakthrough in microLED design and manufacturing that decreases the difficulty of manufacturing and dramatically increases the yields, it will not become a consumer-market TV tech any time soon, no matter what Samsung promises to deliver.

The move from LCD to LED was to get away from using Cadmium (it's toxic) in the backlights. No such issue with LED backlights.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by LexInHD

So much money has been sunk into OLED R&D and manufacturing lines/processes that it would be financially impossible to move the market to microLED, until the 2030s, if it even gets any manufacturing improvements. It could go like the early 2010s, when everyone moved to LED from Ye Old LCD and DLP and LED has stayed the market-middle norm for many years, gradually losing ground to OLED in recent years. Unless there's a Sweet Jesus God Almighty breakthrough in microLED design and manufacturing that decreases the difficulty of manufacturing and dramatically increases the yields, it will not become a consumer-market TV tech any time soon, no matter what Samsung promises to deliver.

OLED is on the threshold of becoming a commodity (like what happened with plasma), nothing special about it. It will become just like LCD/LED, you will get various iterations of it (i.e. QLED, Mini-LED, etc.) but the tech would have plateaued. We're kind of seeing that emerge with OLED, such as QB-OLED. At that point, the industry will move you to Micro-LED as the profit margins would be greatly reduced.

BTW, it isn't just Samsung, LG and Sony both have their versions of Micro-LED. I suspect this TV tech is ready for the market, but they have to milk OLED to get every penny out of the consumer before moving to the next great thing.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by teddyballgame

We're never gonna get that 10,000 nit beast from 5 years ago are we
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVW2QSYdn3A

It will probably come with Micro-LED because LED is not the future.

[Lee A Stewart]

32", 34" and 39" OLED panels coming next, confirms LG Display

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1692696801

[Geoff D]

Oooh....21:9

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Oooh....21:9

I love Scope screens but their 45" 21:9 is only 3440 pixels wide. Will they bump them to 3840.

I still get better milage from sitting at 120cm from the curved 65" for Scope movies.

[soaptrail]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

I love Scope screens but their 45" 21:9 is only 3440 pixels wide. Will they bump them to 3840.

I still get better milage from sitting at 120cm from the curved 65" for Scope movies.

Are the ultrawide screens televisions or monitors?

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by soaptrail

Are the ultrawide screens televisions or monitors?

LG page for the 45":

"45" UltraGear™ OLED Curved Gaming Monitor WQHD with 240Hz Refresh.
HDMI 2.1 and DisplayPort 1.4"

[I DO BLU]

SHARP AQUOS XLED THE RETURN OF THE CHAMPION! - YouTube

[PaulGo]

Next-gen OLED TVs could boost brightness without a price hike – here’s how

Better power efficiency is the key

In OLED TVs in particular, efficiency has a huge impact on their brightness – most OLED TVs could go brighter if more power was pumped into them. But that means they'd run hotter, which would mean the screens could die earlier and be more likely to develop burn-in.

Full article at:

https://www.techradar.com/television...hike-heres-how

[nick4Knight]

Yeah the blue "PHOLED" sets are the ones I was hoping would be out by 2024 but its gonna be too long to wait I fear. Next TV for me is when to care about that rollout.

It's the definition of increments, also, if they're only doing it to extend panel life and reduce burn-in risk at the same brightness as today. I don't need a 15yr TV at good brightness vs having it last more than 5 but less than 10 at it.