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Geoff D · 12-25-2021, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by avs commenter

Lg has a partnership with Disney and they provide them screens to show how things will look on consumer end

Yes, I recall reading the article that Penton posted about Wandavision where they literally shipped a load of LG OLEDs to the filmmakers so they could post the show remotely during the pandemic.

But the fact remains that they shouldn't be used for grading purposes, which is what that survey seems to suggest. They're a fine client monitor but no consumer TV should be used as an actual source monitor for grading, especially with the near black issues that consumer OLEDs have.

avs commenter · 12-27-2021, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yes, I recall reading the article that Penton posted about Wandavision where they literally shipped a load of LG OLEDs to the filmmakers so they could post the show remotely during the pandemic.

But the fact remains that they shouldn't be used for grading purposes, which is what that survey seems to suggest. They're a fine client monitor but no consumer TV should be used as an actual source monitor for grading, especially with the near black issues that consumer OLEDs have.

Does it really matter though if the content is made specifically to be streamed to watch on a Tv or mobile device?

Geoff D · 12-27-2021, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by avs commenter

Does it really matter though if the content is made specifically to be streamed to watch on a Tv or mobile device?

So quality doesn’t matter any more? Christ almighty, might as well chuck it all in then, I’m selling my ZD9 and replacing it with a 32” Beko LCD with built in DVD player.

Lee A Stewart · 12-27-2021, 06:32 PM

LG to Unveil Transparent OLED Displays at CES

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/lg-to-...splays-at-ces/

Pagey123 · 12-27-2021, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

So quality doesn’t matter any more? Christ almighty, might as well chuck it all in then, I’m selling my ZD9 and replacing it with a 32” Beko LCD with built in DVD player.

Progressive scan...?

Robert Zohn · 12-27-2021, 06:57 PM

Sony Shows The Future Of Next-Gen VR With Prototype Headset.

Geoff D · 12-27-2021, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pagey123

Progressive scan...?

Hell with that noise, the internal connection had better be composite video! I want my moiré, dammit!

Pagey123 · 12-27-2021, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Hell with that noise, the internal connection had better be composite video! I want my moiré, dammit!

When the (video) noise hits your eye, like a big pizza pie...that's moiré!

Lee A Stewart · 12-28-2021, 06:52 PM

LG Display showcases new OLED concepts at CES 2022

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1640716749

HeavyHitter · 12-28-2021, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yes, I recall reading the article that Penton posted about Wandavision where they literally shipped a load of LG OLEDs to the filmmakers so they could post the show remotely during the pandemic.

But the fact remains that they shouldn't be used for grading purposes, which is what that survey seems to suggest. They're a fine client monitor but no consumer TV should be used as an actual source monitor for grading, especially with the near black issues that consumer OLEDs have.

Geoff,

I heard the very latest consumer OLEDs have resolved the near black issue, but is your understanding differently? I'm considering possibly moving to a new living room display.

Geoff D · 12-29-2021, 01:05 AM

Seems like they've been said to have "fixed it" with every new generation, only for the same or similar issues to creep in with longer term usage i.e. when you're not putting a stunningly good signal through it every time. I'm still wary, put it that way, but even if near black was perfick an WRGB OLED should not be used for actual grading work, especially for HDR, owing to how the extra white sub pixel pollutes the colour volume. As a client monitor used to check how it looks in 'real world' viewing then it's fine, Dolby even recommends using LG OLEDs for this purpose in their DV best practice guides.

mkozlows · 12-29-2021, 01:53 AM

I was watching an interview with a colorist from a source I forget (or I'd link it), and he was essentially saying that yes, they have the small professional monitors and also the larger display for seeing it more naturally; and that as the larger displays have improved over time, just naturally he looks more and more to that, though the professional monitor is still there.

Geoff D · 12-29-2021, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mkozlows

I was watching an interview with a colorist from a source I forget (or I'd link it), and he was essentially saying that yes, they have the small professional monitors and also the larger display for seeing it more naturally; and that as the larger displays have improved over time, just naturally he looks more and more to that, though the professional monitor is still there.

I recall the same interview, or at least a very similar sentiment.

gkolb · 12-29-2021, 11:10 PM

LG will start mass producing OLED EX TV’s in 2022.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021...biggest-flaws/

Deciazulado · 12-30-2021, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

LG Display showcases new OLED concepts at CES 2022
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1640716749

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Originally Posted by gkolb

LG will start mass producing OLED EX TV’s in 2022.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021...biggest-flaws/

Throw in an 84" 6K 1.43 LG,

Your own personal IMAX

[Show spoiler]

unberechenbar · 12-31-2021, 12:30 AM

They're going back to curved displays? That's interesting.

Lee A Stewart · 12-31-2021, 04:55 PM

AV Link will Present New 4K/8K Products at ISE 2022

https://www.displaydaily.com/article...ts-at-ise-2022

Penton-Man · 12-31-2021, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yes, I recall reading the article that Penton posted about Wandavision where they literally shipped a load of LG OLEDs to the filmmakers so they could post the show remotely during the pandemic.

But the fact remains that they shouldn't be used for grading purposes, which is what that survey seems to suggest. They're a fine client monitor but no consumer TV should be used as an actual source monitor for grading, especially with the near black issues that consumer OLEDs have.

Correct, in retrospect reviewing the responses to this other question posed –

I’m thinking a large portion of the respondents are freelancers, or colorists from small post houses as the larger facilities tend to shy away from using monitors without SDI input (like consumer TVs) for grading.

anthonymoody · 01-03-2022, 06:33 PM

The Sony model-number dump included a 97" model in the 85-tier which is cool.

Robert Zohn · 01-03-2022, 09:37 PM

@anthonymoody, where did you see the Sony's model-number dump?

12-29-2021, 11:10 PM	#694
gkolb Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Bakersfield, CA 4K collection:977 Blu-ray collection:2939 DVD collection:273	LG will start mass producing OLED EX TV’s in 2022. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021...biggest-flaws/ Last edited by gkolb; 12-29-2021 at 11:19 PM. Reason: REPLACED URL

12-27-2021, 06:32 PM	#684
Lee A Stewart Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jan 2019 Location:Albuquerque, NM	LG to Unveil Transparent OLED Displays at CES https://www.mediaplaynews.com/lg-to-...splays-at-ces/

12-28-2021, 06:52 PM	#689
Lee A Stewart Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jan 2019 Location:Albuquerque, NM	LG Display showcases new OLED concepts at CES 2022 https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1640716749

12-29-2021, 01:05 AM	#691
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Seems like they've been said to have "fixed it" with every new generation, only for the same or similar issues to creep in with longer term usage i.e. when you're not putting a stunningly good signal through it every time. I'm still wary, put it that way, but even if near black was perfick an WRGB OLED should not be used for actual grading work, especially for HDR, owing to how the extra white sub pixel pollutes the colour volume. As a client monitor used to check how it looks in 'real world' viewing then it's fine, Dolby even recommends using LG OLEDs for this purpose in their DV best practice guides.

12-29-2021, 01:53 AM	#692
mkozlows Member Member since:Aug 2021	I was watching an interview with a colorist from a source I forget (or I'd link it), and he was essentially saying that yes, they have the small professional monitors and also the larger display for seeing it more naturally; and that as the larger displays have improved over time, just naturally he looks more and more to that, though the professional monitor is still there.

12-31-2021, 12:30 AM	#696
unberechenbar Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:May 2021 Location:USA Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:350 Blu-ray collection:350 Blu-ray reviews: 343 Trading Score:3	They're going back to curved displays? That's interesting.

12-31-2021, 04:55 PM	#697
Lee A Stewart Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jan 2019 Location:Albuquerque, NM	AV Link will Present New 4K/8K Products at ISE 2022 https://www.displaydaily.com/article...ts-at-ise-2022

01-03-2022, 06:33 PM	#699
anthonymoody Member Member since:Jan 2017	The Sony model-number dump included a 97" model in the 85-tier which is cool.

01-03-2022, 09:37 PM	#700
Robert Zohn Retailer Insider Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Scarsdale, NY Trading Score:2	@anthonymoody, where did you see the Sony's model-number dump?

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