Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-111FD Plasma (Home Theater November 2008 review)
On pages 60-62 of the November Home Theater magazine, Thomas J Norton did a professional review on the Pioneer PRO-111FD Plasma.
The Pioneer has an awesome automatic feature for 1080P/24 which has been an exclusive Pioneer feature for a couple years (all other flat panels one has to manually mess around with disabling motion controls in the menu to get true 1080P/24 refresh rates).
Here are a few quotes from the review.
“72-hertz operation on film-based sources for judder-free motion”
“If the program material is already 1080p/24, as is the case with nearly all films on Blu-ray and HD DVD, the Pioneer converts it to a display frame rate of 72 fps automatically. It will do this regardless of PureCinema control’s setting.”
The Pioneer also upconvert’s film based programming from DVD, satellite, and cable to 1080P at 72HZ by doing a reverse 3:2 pulldown.
“Advance (also for all sources except 1080p60) converts film-based program material (as required) to 1080p at a display rate of 72 fps. First it eliminates 3:2 pulldown (if present) and then converts the 24- fps result to 72 fps by repeating (not interpolating) each frame three times.”
“The Pioneer’s great blacks also give its images a genuine feeling of depth.”
“So how does the KURO PRO-111FD compare with last year’s PRO-110FD? While my measurements showed that the newer set’s blacks were at least 75 percent deeper than the blacks on the older model, we’re talking about very subtle differences – in the range of 0.003 foot-lamberts. These blacks approach the accuracy threshold of the professional-grade instruments we use to measure them. While it doesn’t seem possible that they would be visible to the eye, the PRO-111FD’s blacks look clearly darker on scenes that have a larger area of black, such as a star field or the fade-out between scenes. The new set is also sharper and has more richly saturated colors,even on bright scenes. (The depth of a set’s blacks forms a foundation for nearly all program material; it just looks more obvious on the darkest.)”
“All of these differences were relatively subtle. They were mainly visible in a side-by-side comparison. They were real enough, but the two sets looked remarkably alike on most program material. If you just bought a gen-8 PRO-110FD or a PRO-150FD, you haven’t missed the gravy train.
“The Pioneer Elite may be expensive (though more affordable than last year’s models), but as they say in the movie biz, the money is all on the screen.”
LG 47LG60 LCD FLAT PANEL (October 2008 review link)
The LG60 series on the list has been updated with the new October review link written by Scott Wilkinson over at UltimateAVmag.com.
Quote
“Like most upscale LCD TVs, this one refreshes the screen at 120Hz, twice the rate of most TVs. In addition, it can create new frames between those in the video signal by a process called interpolation, in which moving objects are placed where they should be in the new frames according to their motion. This function, which LG calls TruMotion, can be disabled, in which case each frame in a 60Hz signal is displayed twice and each frame in a 24Hz signal is displayed five times.”
Negatives of frame interpolation mode
Some people like the look of frame interpolation since it gives the film a 60HZ smooth video look. Others prefer film to look like film. “Frame interpolation is intended to overcome motion blur, which is endemic to LCD flat panels. However, it can also add obvious artifacts in certain shots, and some of my colleagues, such as UAV reviewer Tom Norton, don't like what it does to the "look" of film-based material, claiming that frame interpolation makes movies look more like video than film.”
“Real-World Performance
As with all 120Hz LCDs, my first real-world tests were moments near the beginning of Cars on Blu-ray and Star Wars VI on DVD. When Lightning McQueen is being profiled during the Piston Cup race at the beginning of Cars, he appears for a moment in front of an array of bright blue lights, which can exhibit a distinct smudging artifact with frame interpolation. Sure enough, the LG's TruMotion function caused this artifact, which got worse on the High setting.”
The best comparisons I can make to the 47LG60 are the Samsung LN52A750 ($3200) and Sony KDL-52W4100 ($3000). Of course, these are 52-inch sets, while the 47LG60 is a 47-incher. The 52-inch LG60 lists for $3200, so it's right in the pocket with the other two. If you want to look at it the other way, the 46-inch Sony KDL-46W4100 and Samsung LN46A750 both list for $2400, only $100 more than the 47LG60.
Of the three, I would pick the Samsung for its lower black level and better frame interpolation. The Sony also has better blacks, but its frame interpolation is on par with the LG's. And the LG beats both of them in its potential for a perfect grayscale calibration.
All in all, I really like the LG 47LG60, especially its 10-point calibration system. Yes, I might wish for a few things like a lower black level, a complete CMS, and a less-reflective bezel, but otherwise, the 47LG60 is a fine LCD TV worthy of serious consideration.
Highs
Superb detail, even with SD sources
Gorgeous colors
Excellent shadow detail
10-point grayscale-calibration system
Lows
High black level
Incomplete color-management system
Inconsistent menu operation
Large, reflective bezel"
Panasonic Viera TH-50PZ85U Plasma HDTV will not be added to the list
This is one of the first consumer displays that Panasonic started offering 1080P/24 feature instead of just regular 1080P/60. The problem is that this display adds 3:2 pulldown and refreshes the image at 60HZ with all 1080P/24 material.
Quote
“The set displays sources up to 1080p/60p. Unlike Panasonic’s previous sets, it produces a viewable image with 1080p/24 program material. But it converts any 24-fps input to 60 fps, by adding 3:2 pulldown prior to display. Any Blu-ray player does the same thing when you select 1080p rather than 1080p/24. (Most movies on Blu-ray Discs are 24 fps.) Whether the conversion happens in the set or in the player, it defeats the benefit of 24-fps sources (which can subtly smooth motion by eliminating the judder inherent in 3:2 pulldown).”
so my Pan Th42pz80u does not have 24p?
Panasonic website is very misleading it says 24 playback yes 24 cinematic playback no. so what does this mean? does it have it or not?
so my Pan Th42pz80u does not have 24p?
Panasonic website is very misleading it says 24 playback yes 24 cinematic playback no. so what does this mean? does it have it or not?
What this means is that the Panasonic TH42pz80u has a 1080P/24 input but it does not have true 1080P/24 refresh rates of 48HZ, 72HZ, 96HZ, 120HZ, or higher. The 80U will refresh 1080P/24 material at 60HZ using a 3:2 pulldown process which is no benefit to 1080P/24 signals. Manufactories can make 1080P displays cheaper by using 3/2 pulldown with 60HZ refresh rates.
Hopefully next year Panasonic will offer true 1080P/24 refresh rates in the United States with out the flicker problems. The 800U and 850U have an unwatchable flicker at 48HZ according to a few professional reviews.
800U https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=952557&postcount=448
850U https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=1005174&postcount=469
Sony KDL-46Z4100 1080P LCD flat panel (October 2008 review link)
I have updated the links on the main list for the KDL-Z4100 series Sony LCD screens. This new October 2008 test report from Sound and Vision magazine proves that the Sony KDL-Z4100 series are true 5:5 pulldown displays when Motionflow is turned off (also known as Cinemotion). Also Sony has added a free on screen TV guide to these LCD screens which is ideal for those people that do not own or rent a digital cable box or satellite receiver.
True 1080P/24 with 5:5 pulldown quote
“Next stop was the Picture Settings submenu, where I first switched the Video/Photo optimizer to the Video setting, and then switched CineMotion to Off. This adjustment allowed the TV to bump a 1080p/24 input from my Blu-ray player up to its 120-Hz refresh rate using a straight 5:5 pulldown (no motion interpolation).”
The full review from Sound And Vision can be read at this link
Hitachi P50X902 Plasma (November 2008 Sound and Vision review)
For the last two years if one wanted to own a Plasma screen that would properly display 1080P/24 signals at multiplies of the original frame rate without flickering problems the only choice was a Pioneer Plasma. Now two years later after Pioneer introduced its firsts 1080P Plasma back in 2006 there is finally a second manufactory that is making Plasma screens that properly display 1080P/24.
The Hitachi P50X902, Hitachi P50V702, and Hitachi P50S602 all properly refresh 1080P/24 at 48HZ.
Here are some quotes from the Sound and Vision November 2008 review on the Top of the Line Hitachi P50X902.(Review can be found on page 62 and 64 for those that subscribe to the magazine)
Quotes taken from page 64
“The Hitachi’s Cinema 48 film mode – which performs 2:2 pulldown on 1080p/24-frame signals coming from a Blu-ray player and displays them at a 48-Hz refresh rate – did a great job of smoothing judder in a difficult pan-and zoom sequence from Fool’s Gold.”
Bottom Line
“While it’s $3,695 list price is a little high, Hitachi’s P50X902 represents a new level of performance and engineering prowess for the company. It can’t beat Pioneer’s plasma (especially the ’08 models) at reproducing deep-black shadows, but most people would be hard-pressed to tell the difference. Throw in Hitachi’s superior, user-friendly menu system and remote, plus the set’s cool aesthetics and swivel base, and you’ve got a TV worth taking a good look at”
SONY Bravia KDL-55XBR8 is the best LCD flat panel on the market (review link)
This is an interesting review to read.The new Sony XBR8 in terms of picture quality is the best LCD flat panel on the market with only the Pioneer Plasma flat panels beating the Sony in terms of overall picture quality and even in terms of price. The Pioneer Plasma Elites are cheaper then the Sony XBR8's and the Pioneer has a 5 inch bigger screen on top of that. The main thing about this article is that it proves that LCD screens keep improving along with Plasma screens in picture quality. The gap in quality between plasma and LCD screens keeps shrinking. When 240HZ 10:10 pulldown LCD screens are introduced to reduce motion blurring in 2009 maybe LCD screens might have the same or better picture quality compared to Plasma, but for now the Pioneer plasma screen is still king which no one has been able to beat for over 2 years.
The Sony XBR8 line properly displays 1080P/24 when motionenhancer is turned off. The XBR8 is already on the list but I will not include this article link on the main list since I have a policy of only linking to articles on the main list that mention how the 1080P/24 feature works in detail. Every single review on the list for every display that has a review available mentions how 1080P/24 is performed at mutiplies of the original frame rate as a reference for why it is on the list.
Quoted Highlights from the CNET review
"Among LCD heavyweights, Sony and Samsung have been trading blows for the last couple of years at the top of the standings. This bout involves cutting-edge, top-of-the-line LED-backlit models most of us can't afford, but it's entertaining nonetheless. In this corner is the Sony KDL-55XBR8, the most-expensive flat-panel HDTV we've ever tested at CNET and possibly the worst deal per square inch since Sony's own XEL-1. In that corner is the Samsung LN46A950. In case you don't have time to read the complete blow-by-blow, we'll cut to the chase: the Sony XBR8 won. It delivered deeper black levels than the Samsung, along with less blooming and off-angle fade, two issues you'll have to read about below. But as good as the Sony is, it still couldn't knock out the champion of the superheavyweight plasma division, Pioneer's Elite Kuro, which still reigns supreme as the best HDTV overall and it costs less, even at 60 inches, than the 55-inch KDL-55XBR8. That said, if you have a room full of light, a penchant for video processing modes and a bank account bursting with cash, you'll find the flagship Sony mighty appealing."
"Reproduces the deepest black levels of any LCD we've tested; highly accurate primary color points and grayscale tracking; best-in-class bright-room viewing characteristics; scads of video processing options including superior dejudder capabilities; numerous picture controls; comprehensive complement of inputs including four HDMI and one PC; optional different-colored speaker grilles; unique styling; energy efficient.
Mind-bogglingly expensive; image quality fades when seen from off-angle; minor blooming in some high-contrast areas; some dejudder modes produce artifacts; nonremovable speakers protrude to either side.
Although not quite the best HDTV we've tested so far, the wallet-busting, LED-powered Sony KDL-55XBR8 comes mighty close."
According to test results the best Samsung display in terms of picture quality is the 950 series. The only better LCD screen on the market in terms of picture quality goes to the Sony XBR8.
1080P/24 is properly displayed on the Samsung with 5:5 pulldown at 120HZ when auto motion plus is turned off
Quote " We also checked out the Samsung with 1080p/24 sources and dejudder turned off to see how the set handled true 24-frame sources. Compared with the Samsung and Panasonic plasmas, which by default refresh at 60Hz and so have to perform 2:3 pull-down for 24-frame film material, the A950 and the other 120Hz LCDs looked equally smooth, without the characteristic hitching motion we saw on the 60Hz displays. The difference was subtle in most scenes to our eye, but came across better during shots like that long pan over the Hoover Dam or in the extended flyover of the Intrepid aircraft carrier from I Am Legend. For those who want to set their Blu-ray players at 1080p/24 output, the A950 will deliver the benefits of that setting."
Other highlights from the review
" Black level: Black levels on this display are superb, lending the image more pop and contrast than with any LCD we've tested aside from Sony's KDL-55XBR8. In dark scenes the Samsung LN46A950 approached the depth of black delivered by the current black-level champions Pioneer's Kuro plasmas, and beat the other displays in the comparison described above to a greater or lesser extent."
One Negative from the review
" From off-angle, however, the LED-based Samsung was a poor performer even compared with most other LCDs we've tested. Blacks became noticeably brighter from just one position to the left or right of the sweet spot right in the middle of the couch. From either of those off-angle seats the far edge of the screen also washed out more noticeably than the near edge, and blooming became a lot worse; that unnatural cloud of light around bright objects on dark backgrounds showed up a lot more clearly from off-angle. Finally, discoloration set in and black areas appeared greenish from those non-sweet spots. If you want peak performance from off-angle, plasma is still the only game in flat-panel town."
Back on October 16th 2008 in a prior post I mentioned the new review in the November 2008 Sound and Vision magazine that proves that some Hitachi Plasma's are now using true 1080P/24 refresh rates. Now the entire review from the magazine has been posted on the Sound and Vision website. The link on the main list for the P50X902 has been updated to point directly to the page in the review that contains the following quote.
Mitsubishi LT-52149 1080P LCD TV October 2008 review link
The Mitsubishi LT-52149 and LT-46149 that are on the list have been updated with a link to the October 2008 review written by Scott Wilkinson over at UltimateAVmag.com. The new 149 series will properly display 1080P/24 signals at 120HZ using 5:5 pulldown without interpolation of new frames when smooth film motion is turned off.
Quote
"Aside from the ISP, the 52149's feature set is fairly standard for an upscale LCD TV these days. For example, the screen is refreshed at 120Hz, which purports to reduce motion blur by interpolating new frames that are inserted between the actual frames in a 24 or 60fps signal. You can turn this interpolation off, in which case frames are repeated as necessary to get to 120 per second. "
The Mitsubishi LT-52149 and LT-46149 is loaded with nice features. The LCD display contains a free detailed on screen program guide. Also included is a built in RF A/B switch that allows consumers to switch between a TV antenna and cable TV with a push of a button. The display has 4 HDMI 1.3 inputs with 3 component inputs along with one S-Video, and 3 composite video inputs. The built in A/B switch is a nice feature for those that have basic cable with a indoor or outdoor TV antenna. All or most manufactories no longer include A/B switches on TV's anymore. Most other display manufactories only include one or two component video inputs while Mitsubishi offers 3, which is good for legacy equipment that does not have HDMI and for when HDCP handshaking compatibility issues arise. The main negative is that the picture quality on the Mitsubishi according to the review is not as good compared to the Samsung LN52A750 and Sony KDL-52W4100.
Some highlights from the review
"One feature that used to be much more common is TV Guide Daily, an interactive program guide for cable and over-the-air broadcasts. It's subscription-free, but it may be superfluous if you already have a program guide from your cable or satellite provider."
"Compared with LCD TVs such as the Samsung LN52A750 ($3500) and Sony KDL-52W4100 ($3000), the Mitsubishi LT-52149 comes up a bit short in terms of picture quality. To make matters worse, at $3600, it's more expensive than the other two. Yes, the ISP is miles ahead of their audio systems, but is that worth the extra dough when the picture doesn't quite stack up?"
"Highs
ISP sound system provides good simulated surround in a small- to medium-sized room
Artifact-free 120Hz frame interpolation
Good detail, as long as sharpness is set correctly
Excellent shadow detail
Well-organized menu system
Lows
Colors not as natural as I've seen on other sets
Blacks don't look deep
Sharpness must be set differently for HD and SD sources
Picture controls time out too quickly"
In a prior post I mentioned the November 2008 Home Theater magazine review on the Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-111FD that correctly refreshes 1080P/24 signals at 72HZ refresh rate. The reason for this updated post is to inform everyone that is interested that the entire review can now be read on the Home Theater website at the following link.
The Mitsubishi WD-65835 DLP rear projector and Samsung HL61A650 DLP rear projector will not be added to the list
According to the December 2008 Home Theater review on the Mitsubishi WD-65835 DLP rear projector and Samsung HL61A650 DLP rear projector, both rear projectors have no benefits at all when a 1080P/24 signal is applied since they add a 3:2 pulldown process.
Quote from page 72 of the December 2008 Home Theater magazine
"While both of these sets accept a 1080p/24 input, neither keeps it in that form all the way to the screen, either as 24 fps or as a simple multiple of that frame rate (such as 48, 96, or 120 fps). Instead, both sets convert the 24-fps input to 1080p/60 prior to display by performing 3:2 pull-down. While common to most current one-piece televisions, this technique negates any benefit of 24-fps film-based source material (such as reduced judder)."
Marantz VP-11S2 DLP Front Projector (December 2008 Home Theater review info)
The Marantz VP-11S2 was placed on the list several months ago and was reviewed in the June 2008 issue of Widescreen review (#132). For those that subscribe to Home Theater magazine, on pages 96-98 there is a new review of the Marantz VP-11S2 DLP Front Projector. Located on page 97 it mentions that this projector supports 48HZ refreshing of 1080P/24 signals. Quote "The VP-11S2 accepts all NTSC and ATSC video signals, including 1080p/24, with no issues at all. With a 24p signal, the unit displays the signal at 48 hertz, which eliminates the judder that's commonly associated with the 2:3 pulldown process used for 60p."
On pages 100-102 in the December 2008 Home Theater magazine is a review of the Samsung LN55A950 that is already on the list. This Samsung LCD will properly display 1080P/24 at 120HZ when Auto Motion Plus is turned off. True 5:5 pulldown. This Samsung LCD display is the best Samsung LCD display on the market with deep blacks. Only the Sony Bravia KDL-55XBR8 and Pioneer KURO Plasma's offer deeper blacks and an overall better picture quality compared to Samsung LN55A950.
Here are some highlighted quotes from the review
"If Auto Motion Plus 120Hz is turned off, source frames are repeated as needed to reach the set's 120-hertz native operating frequency (for example, five repeated frames for each real frame for a 24-Hz source). If you turn Auto Motion Plus 120Hz on, the same number of frames is added. However, in this case they are interpolated from the preceding and following frames. There are three levels of interpolation in the On menu - Low, Medium, and High - plus a Demo option. The high setting might create smoother motion, but it's also the most likely to produce unwanted side effects."
"Exceptional black level and shadow detail"
"Accurate color & superb resolution"
"Superior video processing"
"Limited acceptable viewing angle"
Comparisons and Conclusions
"The obvious competition for the Samsung is the Pioneer KURO plasma. I was unable to perform a side- by- side comparison of these two sets, but I have extensive experience with a number of KUROs and am very familiar with their performance. Without seeing them together, my impression is that Pioneers and this Samsung are far closer in both black level and shadow detail then I ever would have imagined possible, and only the Samsung will give you that total fade-to-black experience. The Samsung, however, does have those subtle but real halos around bright objects on a dark background, while the Pioneer plasmas do not. The two are also very close in subjective resolution. The Pioneer's picture pops a little more, but Samsung can be set to deliver a much brighter image. The Samsung's off-axis performance is mediocre. The image starts to fade noticeably at 20 degrees or so from the center. Although it's watchable at somewhat wider angles, I'd still fight for that center money seat to get the best picture. The Pioneers, like all plasmas, remains bright and crisp as far off axis as you choose to go. The Pioneer, like all plasmas, can develop burn-in if you don't exercise some basic caution with stationary images; the Samsung will be immune to this. But Pioneers have no motion-blur issues, nor any need for compensatory features that work but may have undesirable side effects. All in all, as the Brits would say (and I have no idea what it means), horses for courses. The Samsung LN55A950 is an exceptional set, with superb, color, fine resolution, and compelling black levels and shadow detail that competing LCDs can only dream of -- at least until they get on the local dimming express. If you're in the market for a flat-panel LCD and your budget allows, don't choose another set until you have a chance to see this one."
PIONEER Elite KURO PRO-111FD 50-Inch 1080P Flat Panel Plasma HDTV
Widescreen Review November 2008 article (issue 136)
In the November 2008 (issue 136) Widescreen Review magazine on pages 26, 28, 30, 32, and 34-36 is a very detailed review regarding the Pioneer Elite KURO PRO-111FD 50-inch 1080P Flat Panel Plasma HDTV.
The Widescreen review article mentions that the Pioneer KURO PRO-111FD 2008 model has the 1080P/24 feature with 72HZ just like every other article for the last two years from other publications has mentioned about Pioneer displays.
Alert What is very surprising is that the Widescreen Review in-depth article mentions that this 72HZ feature of repeating frames for 3:3 pulldown has to be manually switched on in the PureCinema menu. All other publications over the last two years have mentioned that the Pioneer Plasma will always automatically display 1080P/24 at 72HZ regardless of any of the menu settings in the Plasma menu. So either Widescreen Review is correct and all other publications are wrong or Widescreen review is incorrect. After two years of everyone saying that the Pioneer automatically does 72HZ for 1080P/24 regardless of the menu settings I find it hard to believe that everyone else was wrong and Widescreen review is correct. Anyways the following is a quote from page 32 from the review that is either correct or incorrect on information on the menu settings. Just goes to show you that everything is so complicated any more in consumer electronics that even the professionals cannot agree on how important features on a product work. Alert
Widescreen Reviews interpretation on how 1080P/24 works on the Pioneer Plasmas.
Alert the following quote about Pure Cinema menu settings might not be correct since it is indirect contradiction with every other publication over the last two years on how Pure Cinema works.
Quote
"Pioneer carries over the PureCinema-Film modes to the PRO-111FD from last year's KURO displays. This mode offers four setting choices: Off, Standard, Smooth, and Advance. Standard mode repeats frames twice for 30 fps sources or adds 3-2 pulldown to 24 fps sources to achieve a 60 fps/Hz display rate. This is typical of many other panel displays. Smooth mode takes 24 fps sources, like Blu-ray, duplicates each frame once to get to 48 fps, then adds 12 interpolated frames to supposedly smooth motion. Images are displayed at 60 Hz. There was at least one spot in every movie I watched where some horizontal or diagonal motion became extremely jerky with ghosting. Backing up and repeating the sequence repeated the jerky motion. Using any other PureCinema mode, including Off, eliminated the jerky motion. Advance mode simply repeats each frame of a 24 fps source three times and displays the result at 72 Hz. I found Advance mode perfectly duplicates the motion in the movie, no better or worse than originally captured."
"When shadow detail becomes a big part of the scene, nothing can touch the KURO; its significantly better than anything out there."
Conclusions
"Last year's KURO displays were such a leap forward from other displays, it was difficult to detect anything to criticize. This year, the KURO displays are even better, but some lower-priced competitors, especially Samsung, have demonstrated the ability to put highly functional user and calibrator controls in displays that are much less expensive than the KURO. Displays as expensive and high-performance as KUROs need to step up to the challenge and surpass the adjustment capabilities of lower-cost products. Nevertheless, the PRO-111FD's images are, on the whole, the best you can get today-not state-of the-art in every way, but leading the way in some parameters. Still, the less-perfect parameters aren't obvious shortcomings. Images were so good, the Blu-ray player was in almost constant use, feeding everything in sight to the PRO-111FD just for the pleasure of seeing the images. When you pay more for a product like the KURO and Elite KURO, there should be something to show for it, and Pioneer delivers the most impressive overall images you can have in a self-contained display in 2008."
LG 42LGX and LG 47LG90 LCD 1080P Flat panels have been added to the list
When Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on the LG 42LGX and LG 47LG90 LCD flat panels will refresh 1080P/24 material at 120HZ using true 5:5 pulldown method.
LG 42LGX product spec sheet link (Super thin 1.8 inch, MSRP $2,699.95)
Samsung LN-52A850, LN-46A860, and LN52A860 LCD 1080P flat panels have been added to the list
The Samsung LN-52A850 has been added to the list. Before only the LN-46A850 was on the list. Also the Samsung LN-46A860 and LN-52A860 have been added to the list. All of these displays perform a true 5:5 pulldown when Auto Motion Plus (AMP) is turned off. Click on the links on the main list for more information about these displays.
According to the November 2008 Widescreen Review magazine the following displays are true 1080P/24
These new displays mentioned in the magazine have not been reviewed yet.
1. Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 7100 LCD Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ. $4,000. According to page 16 in WSR magazine. Correction, According to page 38 of manual, 48HZ 2:2 pulldown for 1080p/24 signals instead of 96HZ. Also 60HZ sources really are refreshed at 60HZ and not 120HZ. User's Guide << See page 38 on user guide link.
2. Epson PowerLite Pro Cinema 7500UB LCD Front Projector (96Hz refresh rate for 1080P/24) 60HZ sources refreshed at 120HZ. $5,000. According to page 16 in WSR magazine.
3. Toshiba REGZA 42XV545U, 46XV545U, and 52XV545U all are 5:5 pulldown. According to page 21 in WSR magazine.
Quote from page 21 WSR magazine "The XV545 series features Toshiba's 120Hz ClearFrame technology that is said to eliminate motion blur and 5:5 frame repetition Film Stabilization mode for presenting 1080p24 at 120Hz."
Last edited by HDTV1080P; 02-12-2010 at 12:38 AM.
Reason: Added red text, updated 7100 to 48HZ info
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