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Old 07-25-2021, 01:52 PM   #3881
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From the original pressbook adverts included on Network’s Blu-ray, Gaumont British didn’t spare the hyperbole when pitching their first major picture shot at their new Shepherd’s Bush Studio, 1932’s Rome Express, not only selling it as Grand Hotel on rails with an all-star cast but ‘one of the greatest pictures ever made.’ The stars may have faded with time but surprisingly the picture does a good job of living up to the claims thanks to a smart script by Sidney Gilliat that has hints of his later work on The Lady Vanishes and superb direction by Walter Forde that’s full of energy and visual invention. The opening sequence as the camera darts and tracks through a Paris railway station discovering and introducing some of the ensemble is a wonderfully invigorating bit of filmmaking and even when everyone’s aboard he finds ways to keep the pace from flagging through Günther Krampf’s terrifically kinetic camerawork and smart crosscutting that never feels like he’s just showing off.

On the passenger list: Esther Ralston’s movie star with a past (“One gets suspicious of old friends who know things”) and her huckster of a press agent Finlay Currie, sporting a very decent American accent (“Don’t forget, I was once press agent to Tom Mix’s horse!”); Cedric Hardwicke’s pompous businessman chasing a knighthood with big charitable donations while short-changing a waiter’s tip and begrudging his secretary Eliot Makeham eight francs for a taxi ride; Gordon Harker, looking and sounding for all the world like Lionel Jeffries in First Men in the Moon as the gossipy neighbour and golf bore who just would be on the same train as married (but not to each other) couple Harold Huth and Joan Barry; Muriel Aked’s pessimistic spinster (“I always go through life expecting the very worst. It’s so nice if it doesn’t happen”); Frank Vosper’s bug hunting French bore whose day job shakes things up; and, most importantly, Donald Calthrop’s art thief with a stolen Van Dyke in his briefcase trying to dodge his double-crossed partners in crime Hugh Williams and a banana-munching Conrad Veidt, who wants to arrange for him to take a long holiday….

Naturally almost everyone has a secret and some connection to each other, with possession of the painting and Calthrop’s increasing desperation as he jumps out of the frying pan and into the fire driving the plot as it twists and turns like a twisty turny thing with plenty of black wit: the scene where Harker assembles a poker party is a particular gem, but its constantly throwing one damn enjoyable thing after another into the mix. Everyone ends up getting what they deserve, and generally in the most entertaining way in a film that definitely deserves more of a reputation than it enjoys today.

Network’s Blu-ray comes from the BFI’s restoration, and it’s only fair to say the film doesn’t look like it was made yesterday: it looks like it was shot 80 years ago and the elements weren’t always as well looked after as they could be and needed to be pieced together from a variety of sources. But it’s equally fair to say that they’ve done a good job with what they had to work with and that this is the best it’s ever likely to look, and certainly better than it has looked for a long time despite the occasional bit of print damage (no dropped frames but some visible tears and scratches) and the odd contrast issue losing some but not all detail in a few shots, with the soundtrack pretty decently cleaned up but still offering optional subtitles (a rarity on Network’s discs) for those lines where the early sound recording presents a problem. Aside from the still and pressbook gallery there’s also a lengthy booklet with an excellent and well-researched appreciation by Neil Sinyard that covers the making of the film and its breakthrough success in the USA. All in all it’s well worth it, especially at the budget price – a first class film for less than a second-class return train fare to London, let alone Paris to Rome!
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Old 07-25-2021, 03:57 PM   #3882
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For what it's worth, here was my experience:

A Blu-ray set and a DVD set I wanted disappeared from the NETWORK site so I wrote and inquired if for future reference, I can assume that means a title is OOP? They responded saying that the Blu-ray set I mentioned is not currently listed on their site and that the DVD set I was looking for is indeed OOP.

How's that for definitive?
Ha! Has the Blu-ray reappeared on their site since?
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Old 07-25-2021, 07:41 PM   #3883
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What DVD set went OOP?
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:14 AM   #3884
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Ha! Has the Blu-ray reappeared on their site since?
Nope. It's The Complete Series of MAN IN A SUITCASE Blu-ray. I ordered it awhile back from Amazon.de at a great price and it has yet to ship. It just says "temporarily out of stock." At this point I don't know what to think and I'm getting antsy that it may indeed be OOP.

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What DVD set went OOP?
It's an old UK TV series, MAN IN ROOM 17: Season 2. Naturally, the only season I need. I've noticed a few old TV series sets gone from the Network site.

I sure wish labels were a bit more open when something is running low or is heading OOP forever. But that would tip off the scalpers and not change the situation much. Indicator puts out advance low stock warnings, but their list prices kind of scare off some resellers, I think. KINO probably has the best idea with their ongoing While Supplies Last sale.
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:45 AM   #3885
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Nope. It's The Complete Series of MAN IN A SUITCASE Blu-ray. I ordered it awhile back from Amazon.de at a great price and it has yet to ship. It just says "temporarily out of stock." At this point I don't know what to think and I'm getting antsy that it may indeed be OOP.
I’ve always noticed that Network is very inconsistent with listing complete series sets (ITC, Gerry Anderson, etc). More often they only sell the seasons while Amazon and other retailers offer the “complete” sets.

I always presumed this was so that Network direct could sell through their individually released season back-stock but that’s just a guess.
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Old 07-26-2021, 01:04 PM   #3886
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thanks, i did just that. For good measure i asked if the blu-ray of hot enough for june (which doesn't appear in the site search at all) was out of print, and then added a request for a blu-ray release of hide and seek.
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thanks for your email

hell drivers and the league of gentlemen are temporarily out of stock, but are on order and should be available again soon

hot enough for june has now been discontinued and will not be available again

many thanks for your release suggestion, we will add it to our wishlist

all the best
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Old 07-26-2021, 05:01 PM   #3887
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:43 PM   #3888
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It's an old UK TV series, MAN IN ROOM 17: Season 2. Naturally, the only season I need. I've noticed a few old TV series sets gone from the Network site.

I sure wish labels were a bit more open when something is running low or is heading OOP forever. But that would tip off the scalpers and not change the situation much. Indicator puts out advance low stock warnings, but their list prices kind of scare off some resellers, I think. KINO probably has the best idea with their ongoing While Supplies Last sale.
Was there a boxset which contained The Fellows (Late of Room 17)?
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Old 07-26-2021, 10:54 PM   #3889
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Was there a boxset which contained The Fellows (Late of Room 17)?
Yes it was released by Network and that one looks to still be available.

Near as I can tell it’s just the second season of THE MAN IN ROOM 17 where Denholm Elliott co-starred, that is OOP.
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Old 07-26-2021, 11:12 PM   #3890
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Yes it was released by Network and that one looks to still be available.

Near as I can tell it’s just the second season of THE MAN IN ROOM 17 where Denholm Elliott co-starred, that is OOP.
They should've done a boxset of THE MAN IN ROOM 17, that included BOTH series istead of seperate releases foe each seiries, & sold The Fellows (Late of Room 17) seperate. then do a boxset that included ALL of what I mentioned.
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Old 07-27-2021, 08:03 AM   #3891
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They should've done a boxset of THE MAN IN ROOM 17, that included BOTH series istead of seperate releases foe each seiries, & sold The Fellows (Late of Room 17) seperate. then do a boxset that included ALL of what I mentioned.
A bad example was set in the early days of TV on DVD when studios tapped into greed more than common sense, i.e. their standard operating procedure.

This is not to say there weren't legitimate concerns for the studios at the time, such as issues regarding market uncertainty, restoration progress, etc, but ultimately releasing TV series piecemeal with "greatest hits" episode collections or one season at a time proved to be a mistake. The studios clung to this for awhile as a cash cow and used a very dubious defense claiming that maybe people only want a single episode or two of a series or just a single season.

After a few years of this and with gradually fading sales of individual seasons/volumes, studios then latched onto the Complete Series idea which very quickly proved to be the superior method of issuing television on disc, validating what so many consumers had contended from the very start. Of course, there was inevitable backlash then from justifiably angry consumers who had been on board from the start, loyally purchasing each season only to now see the entire series in a more attractive package and often for much cheaper. Well, never put it past the studios to require payment for THEIR product trial and error testing.

Network dragged their feet on complete series sets for far too long and that accounts for situations of separate releases for shows and related shows that could have easily been collected in one set. As the TV on DVD market eventually went bust, I guess we should still consider ourselves lucky that so many shows did come out, regardless of their misguided release patterns.
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Old 07-27-2021, 03:33 PM   #3892
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Prices dropped on a lot of the sale items today so I wrote a "What the hell?" email to Network.

Our old friend Joe responded:

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This is only an issue that affects some customers, and is related to the websites ability to correctly read your location based on your IP address. When you are logged in, if you have a delivery address set to UK, this should show correct pricing, but please take a screenshot if this is not the case.

Regardless, our technical team are looking to resolve the issue.
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Sabotage was a great little movie, with all the Hitchcock trademarks. The image is in pretty good condition for a 1936 film.
Also got me interested in the Silly Symphonie "Who killed cock robin?". Anyone know the best presentation of this one, quite a few of these shorts are extras on main Disney films, apparantly.
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Old 07-27-2021, 08:52 PM   #3894
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Shoot. I've been waiting for a Network sale for a while and just missed this one.
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Old 07-28-2021, 12:53 AM   #3895
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Sabotage was a great little movie, with all the Hitchcock trademarks. The image is in pretty good condition for a 1936 film.
Also got me interested in the Silly Symphonie "Who killed cock robin?". Anyone know the best presentation of this one, quite a few of these shorts are extras on main Disney films, apparantly.
You'll need deep pockets - it's an Easter egg on this:

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Shoot. I've been waiting for a Network sale for a while and just missed this one.
I really need to learn more about their catalogue, which I would imagine is pretty heavily British-centric. I'm not familiar with most of the titles I see from them, yet I imagine many would interest me. Same with some of BFI's stuff, like the Flipside releases.
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Old 07-28-2021, 10:33 AM   #3897
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https://networkonair.com/coming-soon...realm-blu-ray-





https://networkonair.com/coming-soon...ather-blu-ray-

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DVD Box Office...

Man, those were the days. Great company and prices.

I got all those tin sets from there.
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Nice to see Defence of the Realm.

Hopefully Network can release The Fourth Protocol at some point.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:52 PM   #3900
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Nice to see Defence of the Realm.

Hopefully Network can release The Fourth Protocol at some point.
There are a lot of ITV titles I would like to see them release not just this.

Others already have BDs overseas like
Battle of the River Plate - Germany IIRC is not fully English friendly
Heroes of Telemark - Sony US although IIRC that used elements held by Sony not the ones ITV have.
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