81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[Elandyll]

And this 65:35 is indeed contributing to have BD earn another point in the SI

[Imakida]

I'm disappointed, serioulsy. My expectations were too high.. But it's still a win and hopefully, Ratatouille will have a long residual effect.

So now, let's go for next week: BOGO sale + Spiderman and Ratatouille residual effect.

[atomik kinder]

I don't think we will see much of an improvement for the following week. Die Hard doesn't seem to be selling well and neither does Hairspray. Hopefully next weeks number stay the same or get a little better with Shrek 3 out, but I don't think that will do much damage.

[Seabass]

Selling 30% more is a slaughter in my book. If I was backing HD-DVD I would not be too excited, in fact after the firesale/give away I would be getting mighty nervous.

Until HD-DVD improves on a consistent basis, actually wins some weeks and catches up in other regions I would not be investing too much on that inferior tech.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by bdrex28

Where are people getting the 70K from?

david vaughn said it sold about half of what spiderman (box set and standalone) did last week. spidey did 133k, which means that rat did about 70k.

[xradman]

Originally Posted by bdrex28

Where are people getting the 70K from?

People are saying 70K from Dave Vaughn who posted that Ratatouille sold around 10% less than SM-3 the previous week and only about half when SM-3 and Trilogy are combined.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by Seabass

Selling 30% more is a slaughter in my book. If I was backing HD-DVD I would not be to excited, in fact after the firesale/give away I would be getting mighty nervous.

Until HD-DVD improves on a consistent basis, actually wins some weeks and catches up in other regions I would not be investing too much on that inferior tech.

uh, thats not how you do %s. blu-ray sold about 100% more than hd dvd this week.

[bdrex28]

22K cars? That doesn't seem nearly enough.

I"m not so sure that 70K baseline for Rat is correct. Can anyone confirm? I wish Disney would release numbers.

[olarmy96]

Actually, it looks like the Spiderman trilogy is actually throwing off the numbers to me. Since the trilogy counts as 1 instead of 3. If you count the trilogy as 3 movies, then the ratio is pretty close to 3:1.

Originally Posted by L or S of Perfect?

It's the residual effect of transformers for the past few weeks that's really hurting the ratio...

[Teazle]

Originally Posted by talbers23

read the article on the format war with the fans. the part that pissed me off was when the person said we are so into this is becasue we have money invested in it. if that was true i would have a hd dvd player and just get the exclusives to hd dvd and be done with it because moneys not an object when it comes to this. what is comes down to for me is not wanting blu-ray to fail and get good but not as good titles. i know its been said many times on this site, hd dvd is a very good step up from dvd, but not close to blu-ray. i like to refer to it as dvd 1.5

Agree 100%. The story is written as if all the early adopters are purely self-interested and mercenary and care nothing for video and audio quality. The author should have read these forums a bit longer!

[Joe Cain]

Did I hear right? Did BD get a point back in YTD?

[Longshot]

Well for me these numbers are extremely dissapointing. Those of us who were so vocal about the other side not buying movies with the firesale are just plain wrong. 65-35 is where it's been all year. All these numbers show is that HD DUD isn't going anywhere. Wasn't it WickyWoo who said last week would really start to see the numbers move to 80-20 for Bd? If these numbers (YTD) stay where they are through the rest of the year we can forget about WB going Bd exclusive or Uni going nuetral. It simply won't happen.

[bdrex28]

Originally Posted by Seabass

Selling 30% more is a slaughter in my book. If I was backing HD-DVD I would not be to excited, in fact after the firesale/give away I would be getting mighty nervous.

Until HD-DVD improves on a consistent basis, actually wins some weeks and catches up in other regions I would not be investing too much on that inferior tech.

Seriously, Math 101 is a good thing.

It's not 30% more, it's MUCH more than that.

[Elandyll]

Originally Posted by Imakida

I'm disappointed, serioulsy. My expectations were too high.. But it's still a win and hopefully, Ratatouille will have a long residual effect.

So now, let's go for next week: BOGO sale + Spiderman and Ratatouille residual effect.

They will have Shrek 3, but between Cars, Rat, SM3 residuals, the BOGO sale, and the $399 PS3 (Sony anounced having sold 100.000 this past week alone I think)... I think the green guy will return to his swamp

And on the horizon I can already see DH4 (tons of hype going on on TV atm), The Simpsons movie, Potc:AWE and Superbad

[mel2]

very bad for the blu-ray camp. no more predictions from me. I thought it would be higher than 75:25 easily. sales are just way to low across the board. There is no reason that ratatouille shouldn't have sold over 100k and cars 50k. with all the new players out there for both sides you would think the numbers sold would get alot higher every week. especially these busy shopping weeks.

[Elandyll]

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

Did I hear right? Did BD get a point back in YTD?

That was last week

with a YTD at 65:35, this week's number doesn't do anything for or againstit.
But the SI ...

very bad for the blu-ray camp. no more predictions from me. I thought it would be higher than 75:25 easily. sales are just way to low across the board. There is no reason that ratatouille shouldn't have sold over 100k and cars 50k. with all the new players out there for both sides you would think the numbers sold would get alot higher every week. especially these busy shopping weeks.

The Firesales (Walmart and BestBuy) -had- to have some kind of effect.
Anything higher than 70:30 was wishfull thinking imho. Also, let's not forget that next week is thanksgiving and that Xmas is close. Many people are delaying their buys until nexty week or closer to Xmas, specially for kid friendly movies.

[gandley]

sadly for the rat it didnt get the export to europe boost due to region encoding.
Transformers is a heavy import title in europe.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by gandley

sadly for the rat it didnt get the export to europe boost due to region encoding.
Transformers is a heavy import title in europe.

good point.

[Imakida]

Originally Posted by mel2

very bad for the blu-ray camp. no more predictions from me. I thought it would be higher than 75:25 easily. sales are just way to low across the board. There is no reason that ratatouille shouldn't have sold over 100k and cars 50k. with all the new players out there for both sides you would think the numbers sold would get alot higher every week. especially these busy shopping weeks.

The PS3 owner is probably not the typical buyer of Ratatouille and Cars. I think that POTC 3 will do better for Disney. However, I think that Ratatouille will keep a good selling ratio over time. Die Hard 4 could aslo be a winner, we will see in 2 weeks!

[surfdude12]

even the HD-DVD fanboys were guessing 80:20 on avs
oh well, like someone above said, its how we do in the next months that count, so KEEP BUYIN BLU!!!!