81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[monkyman]

Originally Posted by Helicon

I love this one....

Well done Disney

HD-DVD - The look and sound of perfect

Disney Blu-ray - Better than perfect

Now that's some funny s$#t!!!!

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by babyBlu

posted by joshd2012 at AVS

66/34
67/33
59/41

TOP 10
1. Appocolypto 100
2. POTC: DMC 98.55
3. POTC: CBP 84.33
4. Planet Earth HD DVD 82.27
5. Norbit BD 77.78
6. Blood Diamond 74.95
7. Planet Earth BD 62.17
8. The Messengers 51.05
9. Casino Royale 44.44
10. Letters from Iwo Jima BD 38.65

Blu-ray

1. Appocolypto 100
2. POTC: DMC 98.55
3. POTC: CBP 84.33
4. Norbit BD 77.78
5. Blood Diamond 74.95

HD DVD

1. Planet Earth 100
2. Norbit 46.41
3. Ultimate Matrix 33.46
4. Letters from Iwo Jima 31.67
5. Complete Matrix 29.30

Originally Posted by nhaase

I like seeing the sales indexes for each sole format. If you look at the #5 blu-ray title (Blood Diamond), it's index is 74.95. The #2 HD DVD title is Norbit at 46.41. That's just sad if you're a HD DVD supporter, especially factoring in that PE HD DVD's index compared to Apocalypto is 82.27.

Norbit's sales shows a preference for Blu-ray. It's indexes are:
BD - 77.78
HD - 38.35 (take 82.27, PE HD DVD's index, and multiply by 0.4661, Norbit HD DVD's index as a percentage)

Please correct me if that is not accurate. If it is, look at this:
38.35 x 2 = 76.70
If all that is correct, then Norbit BD outsold its HD DVD counterpart by more than a 2:1 ratio. This would hint that the fire sale isn't doing too much. I know Norbit might not be the best title for this comparison, but it did pretty well at the box office.

Letters from Iwo Jima's index also shows two things: Preference for Blu-ray and the staying power of demand for Blu-ray over HD DVD.

Once again, correct me if those numbers are wrongly calculated.

nhaase is right (just some minor typo on a digit)
so mmm.. mmixing in the out-of-the-overall-top-ten extra hd dvd titles, gives them this %:


1. Apocalypto 100
2. POTC: DMC 98.55
3. POTC: CBP 84.33
4. Planet Earth 82.27
5. Norbit 77.78
6. Blood Diamond 74.95
7. Planet Earth 62.17
8. The Messengers 51.05
9. Casino Royale 44.44
10. Letters from Iwo Jima 38.65
?. Norbit 38.18
?. Ultimate Matrix 27.53
?. Letters from Iwo Jima 26.05
?. Complete Matrix 24.11

[nhaase]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

nhaase is right (just some minor typo on a digit)
so mmm.. mmixing in the out-of-the-overall-top-ten extra hd dvd titles, gives them this %:


1. Apocalypto 100
2. POTC: DMC 98.55
3. POTC: CBP 84.33
4. Planet Earth 82.27
5. Norbit 77.78
6. Blood Diamond 74.95
7. Planet Earth 62.17
8. The Messengers 51.05
9. Casino Royale 44.44
10. Letters from Iwo Jima 38.65
?. Norbit 38.18
?. Ultimate Matrix 27.53
?. Letters from Iwo Jima 26.05
?. Complete Matrix 24.11

So Apocalipto +2 Pirates BDs sold, again, 5.5 times more than 3 Matrix hd dvds (and one animatrix dvd thrown in)

Thanks for looking over all of that, I was hoping somebody would check it, because it shows that HD DVD is just getting thrashed right now.

[goodstuff]

those ads are f******* awesome

[MrBogey]

The best part is almost all of the blu-ray titles on top this week weren't part of the 2-1 sale. So Toshiba and Ms fans can't use that excuse.

[baccusboy]

Just to review:

May 6:

Source: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...2707/index.php

May 13:

Source: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...2007/index.php

May 20:

Source: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...2707/index.php

May 27, which included the release of the two Pirates movies on BR:

Source: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...0307/index.php

June 3, which was more-or-less a dead release week for BR, and included an organized buy-day for HD-DVD and a player price drop, putting the lowest priced HD-DVD player at half of the nearest BR player:

Source: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...1007/index.php

June 10, which included the Sony 2-for-1 sale (although no titles from that sale were in the top 5 for sales of BR that week):


Source: http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...1707/index.php

[GasCat]

It must be so depressing to see these numbers week after week and be a HD-DVD supporter. I can't see how anyone can buy more HD-DVD discs or convince others that it is the winning format

The players are going to go out of warranty and no more will be sold. Where are they going to play their HD-DVD discs? This is just like Beta.

[ProvenFlipper]

Those since inception numbers are growing week after week...

[BTBuck1]

you would have thought with those firesales that the momentum would have shifted, at the very worst been even...but no, blu-ray is pounding them worse.

Wow..just wow.

[Dave]

Mirror:
http://www.x530camera.com/NeilsonHDM...06-May2007.jpg

[nhaase]

I love how the graph Dave posted shows that BD was at about 30% until the PS3 debuted, then it took the lead, yet Graffeo (Universal man) said that people aren't using the PS3 for BD movie playback.

If we let Toshiba get by with their story of having a 60/40 advantage on standalone player sales, and let Graffeo be right that people aren't buying the PS3 for BD playback (which I do), then either the attach rate for BD is very high or people are just buying BDs to buy them.

This graph shows the PS3 effect.

[bluflu]

Looks like it's time for HD DVD to start using the heavy FUDtillery.

[Dave]

I did a bit of improvements over the chart

[whippersnapper]

Originally Posted by Dave

I did a bit of improvements over the chart

Wow Dave, nice chart. Post this over at the AVS site and you'll generate an FUD storm for sure.

[saljr]

How accurate is the Nielsen?

[jubaiweaponx]

nice to see visual charts of how bad hddvd is going down the toilet,also nice to see best buys add this week seems to be a big push of all things sony with a package offer on the front page w/ps3 and bd`s and more inside,can never hurt !

[whippersnapper]

Originally Posted by jubaiweaponx

nice to see visual charts of how bad hddvd is going down the toilet,also nice to see best buys add this week seems to be a big push of all things sony with a package offer on the front page w/ps3 and bd`s and more inside,can never hurt !

I wonder how Dave's chart would look with it extended with "open space" to the right with a toilet sitting there in the direction the red "trend" line is headed? I guess the question is what would the "toilet point" be? 20%? 15%? Of course the HD-DVD fanboys are now starting to explain this trend by saying that HD-DVD player buyers rent their movies and Blu-ray player buyers buy their movies. So you can't win with those folk.

[Glow007]

Originally Posted by saljr

How accurate is the Nielsen?

Second only to the word of God!!

[The Don]

the only thing more accurate than Nielson is if Walmart gave their numbers along with Nielson....

[coolmilo]

Originally Posted by whippersnapper

Wow Dave, nice chart. Post this over at the AVS site and you'll generate an FUD storm for sure.

I think we should keep the charts from getting into HD DUD's hands. I would hate for these nice numbers to encourage FUD to buy more HD DVD movies (in an attempt to even things out) and prolong the war. Rather, let the numbers build and kill of HD DUD once and for all.