81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[kowhite]

Originally Posted by lztp6k

Did the article say they only sold 30k overall or walmart only sold 30k?

Wal-Mart only, but considering most had thought Wal-Mart pushed 60k that week...it raises an eyebrow.

[bdrex28]

Originally Posted by lztp6k

Did the article say they only sold 30k overall or walmart only sold 30k?

From the article:

A little known fact is that of the 30,000 HD DVD players sold by Wal-Mart, 30% of them were connected to the internet shortly after purchase.

[lztp6k]

Originally Posted by bdrex28

From the article:

How is this known? As far as I know only Toshiba would have that info.

[OokieSpookie]

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

So insiders, the HD-DVD player sales appear to have had a slight impact on software sales.

Isn't it time Blu-ray had an aggressively priced standalone player, and quick?

So many things are right, the advertising, software line-up, PS3, BOGO's...........cheaper players are the missing link that should make everything click, they can't come soon enough.

I am sure only winning by 35% has the BDA holding an emergency meeting as we speak...

[blujacket]

^^^^^^^^^^^

Dud owners buying a 2nd player doing firmware upgrades

[bdrex28]

Originally Posted by lztp6k

How is this known? As far as I know only Toshiba would have that info.

No idea, the guy quoted sounded like he was from some HD DVD group.

[dakota81]

Disappointed in the ratio, I'm thinking both formats are gaining enough sales that new releases are having less & less an impact on ratios. Looks like it may hover around 60:40 the rest of the year, little more with big Blu-ray releases, little less with big HD DVD releases.

[bdrex28]

I'm surprised no one is talking about how big a ratio lead Rat had. the next highest was 35.98. That's a pretty big lead on other titles.

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by Living Near Shamu

Did anyone catch the article on page 28 - Cover 3, about the HD DUDs that Wal Mart sold for $99? It says that they only sold 30,000 units, not the 90,000 that was claimed before

Yes, and it also said that their employees were not educated abou the two formats ( Very Surprising ) And as I have been saying all this time they have a few movies, but nothing that would move enough stock to change the Nielsen numbers. Of course the HD DVD fanboys are probably celebrating this week since they didn't totally get stomped. Also by reading this they are now thinkinging tha HMM must be biased toward Blu-Ray.

[Iron Man]

Paramount's decision gave a boost in exclusive titles for HD-DVD, but the effect on YTD hasn't been very big, sofar is has secured them status que.

It's going to be exciting so see how movies each format will sell during December

[lztp6k]

Originally Posted by atomik kinder

Yes, and it also said that their employees were not educated abou the two formats ( Very Surprising ) And as I have been saying all this time they have a few movies, but nothing that would move enough stock to change the Nielsen numbers. Of course the HD DVD fanboys are probably celebrating this week since they didn't totally get stomped. Also by reading this they are now thinkinging tha HMM must be biased toward Blu-Ray.

I wouldn't be surprised if they said that. Typical fanboy speak. Any site that discredits your format of choice is claimed to be biased.

[Rup_Muk]

Originally Posted by Iron Man

Paramount's decision gave a boost in exclusive titles for HD-DVD, but the effect on YTD hasn't been very big, sofar is has secured them status que.

It's going to be exciting so see how movies each format will sell during December

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Just a suggestion, Iron Man: Wouldn't this graph look better if Blu were on top?

Rup.

[Iron Man]

Originally Posted by Rup_Muk

Just a suggestion, Iron Man: Wouldn't this graph look better if Blu were on top?

Like this ?

[Papi4baby]

You have also notice huh.

Anyone catch the ad for Resident Evil trilogy?

[Iron Man]

Originally Posted by Papi4baby

Anyone catch the ad for Resident Evil trilogy?

The first movie had top dollar audio on DVD with DTS, can't imagine what it will sound like with uncompressed audio.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by chasswen

ok now for the dumb question
whats wrong with there being both formats some studios were doing this. and if some people want that other format so be it.
i personal want blu-ray as i see it as a format that can be expanded.
and i do own 2 blu-ray stand alones.
all this war is doing is hurting the general public.

You're right: this war is hurting the consumer (and the industry). Having all studios release on both formats would only prolong it! (Besides, some Blu studios have certain non-negotiable requirements that HD DVD can't offer, ergo they'll not support HD DVD.)

[Neo65]

If we assume 300-BD sold roughly same as last week 4800 (perhaps slightly lower), this is what I got for estimates of units sold.

Rat         57604
Spidey3     20150
Cars        17828
TF          15000
Chuck&Larry 11244
SpideyBox    8859
Pixar        6659
KU           4914
300-BD       4453
Robinsons    4378
300-HD       2085

A couple of highlights, Spidey3 would sell only 29,000 total this week with box included making it a drop to < 25% of last week's. TF fades to around 15k, Rat didn't do extremely crazy well, but at 57k is still the best selling animation ever. No animation disk sold more than Rat! even those that were released early last year like IceAge II, Happy Feet, Rat beat them all.

Meet the Robinson's looks like a blip from Rat buyers picking up more disney titles with cars and pixar collection. This is pixar's week, they sold more than 86k BDs this week (my estimate).

Welcome to BD, Pixar.

[greekjgg]

Originally Posted by mattym

if you take into account the apparent 90k hddvd players sold, and say ok that will have shifted some hddvd, then 65% is a very big score. We wont know till disney spit out some numbers for the rat

Yes, it is up against 100K HD sold, but lets not forget that PS3 sales surpassed that as well last week. These ps3's are not translating in more Blu sales.

[OokieSpookie]

Originally Posted by chasswen

ok now for the dumb question
whats wrong with there being both formats some studios were doing this. and if some people want that other format so be it.
i personal want blu-ray as i see it as a format that can be expanded.
and i do own 2 blu-ray stand alones.
all this war is doing is hurting the general public.
just my 3 cents inflation
chuck

You answered your own question.
The war is hurting the general public and they refuse to get involved until there is one winner.
When a studio is neutral they spend more money having to do two different versions of the movie to take advantage of each format. ( If you are lucky).
Unfortunately alot of times they will instead half ass it and just port from one to the other which results in sub par releases. ( Ask gamers how enjoyable this is ).
Neutral is hd-dvds new "win" strategy.

[Clark Kent]

People are looking at these numbers all wrong. The Rat sold pretty much what I expected it to sell given the state of the market right now. The average 18 year old kid with a PS3 simply has no interest in purchasing a family oriented film. What is surprising though was two big disappointments. It's apparent that many purchasers of Ratatoiulle simply passed over Cars. I guess there are many that are simply content with upscaling their Cars dvd. Another big shock is the huge drop in Spider-man 3 sales. It's clear that popular perception of that movie(rightly or wrongly) has hurt its demand. This is a movie that made basically the same amount of box office as Transformers but its getting trounced in head to head sales comparisons(adjusting for installed player base, length of time released to home video, etc) to it. The Spider-man 3 drop is the reason we didn't take this week 75-25 or higher.