81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by superdynamite

You're banking HDDVD's success on the chance that Disney will back them? Um... Disney is already backing HDDVD... in Never Never Land! I saw the advertisement yesterday while I was on a date with Wendy. THEN I WOKE UP!



Does Universal have 400 more Transformers? I hope they do because their biggest Movie only put a dent in sales for 3 DAYS!!! According to the Nielsen ratings report. Maybe they'll release the Dolly Parton smash hit "9 to 5!" That should put Blu-Ray out of business. LOL



I'm glad you made the format decision for Warner Brothers. You should call them and tell them who they picked. 1-800-555-moron



Do you smoke Crack all day long or only before you blog??? The VC1 tool is your savior? That's a good one. FYI: the 51GB HDD CANNOT be used on ANY current HD-DVD player's optical lense. This problem is NOT a firmware issue, it's a hradware issue. Also, the 51GB HDD CANNOT be made as a HD-DVD-R or HD-DVD-RW so it's completely useless. Maybe if you collect enough of the useless 51GB HDD's you can melt them down into a giant plastic cube. Atleast you can get some use out of that!



Actually, HD-DVD is only still Semi-alive in the Country of backwards, Hill-Billy Morons known as the USA. Excluding N. America, HD-DVD only holds a sales share of less than 3% in World Wide Sales.

Now, getting back to my original question; Do you smoke Crack all day long or only before you blog??? Please let me know.

Thanks, Super!

Ummmm, you do realize that my original post you quoted above was a complete tongue in cheek mockery of HD DVD folks, right?

It's called sarcasm...

[khainne]

Originally Posted by superdynamite

Actually, HD-DVD is only still Semi-alive in the Country of backwards, Hill-Billy Morons known as the USA.

wow

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by superdynamite

Now, getting back to my original question; Do you smoke Crack all day long or only before you blog??? Please let me know.

Read his post history. You'll then realize he was being satiric.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Read his post history. You'll then realize he was being satiric.

LOL, I think he's the one on crack!!! How could anyone read that post of mine and think I was being serious?

[MotionBlurr]

^^^^ Holy Crap!

[mystiksuicide]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

No chance

The gaming market can support 3 consoles at retail for one reason: Back catalog is virtually non-existant

A handful of titles for each console are kept in print perpetually (greatest hits, platinum, whatever). 95%+ are run once and then gone forever.

At least 2/3 of a studio's released catalog are kept in print at any one time, and a single studio has more titles than all the SKUs released on all 3 systems last generation. Once HD Media fills its first aisle at most Best Buys, they will make a choice which one starts losing racks, and that will be the end of it

Lets make this even more simple and say HD media eventually replaces dvd. How will a B&M store categorize them? Blu and then reds? That will mean remembering which studio did what movie so you can tell grandama go to the red isle not the blu one then go to the drama area then look for the title.

Or will blu cases and red cases be mixed together?

It won't fly!!!! As the famous line from the Highlander says, "There can be only one!!

[Esox50]

BTW, superdynamite...you can apologize any time now.

Maybe you're still figuring out how to take the foot out of your mouth?

Just kidding man. It's all good, but that was a classic you posted. I'm still laughing at how you completely misinterpreted my post. LOL.

[bbg]

Originally Posted by Esox50

BTW, superdynamite...you can apologize any time now.

Maybe you're still figuring out how to take the foot out of your mouth?

Just kidding man. It's all good, but that was a classic you posted. I'm still laughing at how you completely misinterpreted my post. LOL.

... perhaps you didn't realize that Superdynamite was being even more sarcastic then you Esox50 ... and you are merely trying 1 up his sarcasm by covering for the fact that you didn't catch it until i opened your eyes to it ...

... or it might be the rubber cement i'm currently melting my GI Joe figures with ... either makes sense to me right now. :P

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by Esox50

BTW, superdynamite...you can apologize any time now.

Maybe you're still figuring out how to take the foot out of your mouth?

Just kidding man. It's all good, but that was a classic you posted. I'm still laughing at how you completely misinterpreted my post. LOL.

It should be saved though..so it can be cut and pasted for the next troll that comes a calling with those same points...gotta like his spirit.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by superdynamite

You're banking HDDVD's success on the chance that Disney will back them? Um... Disney is already backing HDDVD... in Never Never Land! I saw the advertisement yesterday while I was on a date with Wendy. THEN I WOKE UP!
Does Universal have 400 more Transformers? I hope they do because their biggest Movie only put a dent in sales for 3 DAYS!!! According to the Nielsen ratings report. Maybe they'll release the Dolly Parton smash hit "9 to 5!" That should put Blu-Ray out of business. LOL
I'm glad you made the format decision for Warner Brothers. You should call them and tell them who they picked. 1-800-555-moron
Do you smoke Crack all day long or only before you blog??? The VC1 tool is your savior? That's a good one. FYI: the 51GB HDD CANNOT be used on ANY current HD-DVD player's optical lense. This problem is NOT a firmware issue, it's a hradware issue. Also, the 51GB HDD CANNOT be made as a HD-DVD-R or HD-DVD-RW so it's completely useless. Maybe if you collect enough of the useless 51GB HDD's you can melt them down into a giant plastic cube. Atleast you can get some use out of that!
Actually, HD-DVD is only still Semi-alive in the Country of backwards, Hill-Billy Morons known as the USA. Excluding N. America, HD-DVD only holds a sales share of less than 3% in World Wide Sales.
Now, getting back to my original question; Do you smoke Crack all day long or only before you blog??? Please let me know.
Thanks, Super!

Whoopsie daisies - time to look up the word sarcasm in the dictionary.

[blu2]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

No it cannot - neither format will take off this way.

One has to win, the studios will not accept losing out on a new source of revenue just because they couldn't figure out which format to support.

But who's going to make a switch?

- Warner's last bit of PR indicated that they have no intention of going exclusive in either direction. They sell to both sides, so are already maximizing revenue (unless you argue they will go exclusive to make sure one side takes hold)

- Paramount is locked in until at least 2009

- Universal has always been HD DVD exclusive and their execs chant the HD DVD mantra at every turn

Seems unlikely we'll see any Studio switch in the forseeable future.

Meanwhile, the BDA vendors are not going to match HD DVD standalone prices for some time. When will we see Profile 1.1 players at the same price as an HD DVD standalone? This time next year?

There doesn't see to be anything on the horizon that is going to result in any big changes.

The other wildcard is when affordable dual format players will come onto the market.

[blu2]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

How "should" it pull away?

Since INception

Jan 07 - 45:55
Apr 07 - 56:44
Jul 07 - 59:41
Nov 07 - 61:39

Looks like it's continuing to pull away to me.

Actually looks like it is converging somewhere in the 6x:3x range. The SI growth rate is decelerating.

The YTD number started at 63.3/36.7 in January, peaked at 70.4/29.6 (March), and is now at 65/35.

Pretty unexciting. No breakthroughs on either side. (In that sence, the HD DVD moves have been a bit of a failure if this ratio persists into Q1 next year)

[darinp2]

Originally Posted by blu2

But who's going to make a switch?

- Warner's last bit of PR indicated that they have no intention of going exclusive in either direction. They sell to both sides, so are already maximizing revenue (unless you argue they will go exclusive to make sure on side takes hold)

Where did you see that? The last I recall from them is that they are watching Q4 closely, rethinking their dual stance, but no guarantee that meant they would be dropping one side in early 2008 (although they might). We've already seen them downplaying their TotalHD disc idea to some degree.

Originally Posted by blu2

- Universal has always been HD DVD exclusive and their execs chant the HD DVD mantra at every turn

Ken Graffeo also said that they would go whichever direction consumers (not just early adopters) choose. And they have made it clear that they want cheaper players and interactivity. I believe that if Universal came to the conclusion that HD DVD couldn't win, they would make a change not too long after. For the record, I don't think they believe that at this point, but if things keep going in Blu-ray's favor I could see them making a move at some point in 2008. If Warner and New Line go to HD DVD I think Universal will stay put, if Warner and New Line go to Blu-ray I don't think it would be long until Universal made a move, and if no other studios change their support in early 2008 but Blu-ray gets Chinese players out at much lower prices, I think Universal could see an opportunity to get some money before Warner and New Line take it, and make a move (although they might start with neutrality). If Universal is thinking about going neutral and waits to the point that Warner and New Line go Blu-ray exclusive, then the amount of compensation that Universal could demand will likely drop dramatically.

I don't think any of these studios want to be in a position in a couple of years where they have to do their extras in both HDi and BD-J with releases for each format, or miss out on a big chunk of the HD on disc market. But at this point it is more cat-and-mouse. If it looks like nobody else is going to move and a kind of stalemate is inevitable for a long time (not just the short term), I think one of the big studios will make a move that will lead toward an end (one side winning).

--Darin

[kurtlingle]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

Lets make this even more simple and say HD media eventually replaces dvd. How will a B&M store categorize them? Blu and then reds? That will mean remembering which studio did what movie so you can tell grandama go to the red isle not the blu one then go to the drama area then look for the title.

Or will blu cases and red cases be mixed together?

It won't fly!!!! As the famous line from the Highlander says, "There can be only one!!

Actually, I was just on vacation in Panama City Beach (Florida) and the Video Gallery story (DVD rentals) just added High Def. They mix and match the blu and red and it's horrible. A real pain if you ask me (looks like a mess).

I like how BBuster has them separated.

[cking2729]

Originally Posted by superdynamite

Actually, HD-DVD is only still Semi-alive in the Country of backwards, Hill-Billy Morons known as the USA. Excluding N. America, HD-DVD only holds a sales share of less than 3% in World Wide Sales.

Dude, I might not speak for everyone, but myself and most people don't want that kind of crap here. I dislike HD-DVD as much as the next person, but if you are going to be making jabs at the expense of other people, cultures, or nationalities, I think you should take your posts to AVS or HDD. There are many respectful posters here from all over the world, and we don't need any comments like yours filling our threads, regardless of how supportive you are of Blu-Ray.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by cking2729

Dude, I might not speak for everyone, but myself and most people don't want that kind of crap here. I dislike HD-DVD as much as the next person, but if you are going to be making jabs at the expense of other people, cultures, or nationalities, I think you should take your posts to AVS or HDD. There are many respectful posters here from all over the world, and we don't need any comments like yours filling our threads, regardless of how supportive you are of Blu-Ray.

Agree. The spirit was desirable but parts of the delivery are not called for..

[blitz6speed]

Originally Posted by blu2

But who's going to make a switch?

- Warner's last bit of PR indicated that they have no intention of going exclusive in either direction. They sell to both sides, so are already maximizing revenue (unless you argue they will go exclusive to make sure one side takes hold)

- Paramount is locked in until at least 2009

- Universal has always been HD DVD exclusive and their execs chant the HD DVD mantra at every turn

Seems unlikely we'll see any Studio switch in the forseeable future.

Meanwhile, the BDA vendors are not going to match HD DVD standalone prices for some time. When will we see Profile 1.1 players at the same price as an HD DVD standalone? This time next year?

There doesn't see to be anything on the horizon that is going to result in any big changes.

The other wildcard is when affordable dual format players will come onto the market.

1. Warner is being forced to make a choice by an outside contract. By end of february, it HAS to drop one format.

2. Paramount contract also has some very strict clauses that allows them to back out if certain criteria isnt met, such as sales of discs.

3. Universal is the worst selling studio on HD DVD, which is sad, since it is their flagship studio. They want sales, and what better way then to introduce their catalog of titles on blu-ray? Just their going to blu-ray would double/triple sales of what they've done so far on HD DVD. Im sure the BDA also has a VERY sweet package for them to chew into.

4. Dual Format will never be the norm. There can only be 1 format, and this has been true from the past till now.

[bluflu]

Look like it's time for Operation HD DVD Mega-Fraud Part Deuce.

[OokieSpookie]

Originally Posted by blitz6speed

1. Warner is being forced to make a choice by an outside contract. By end of february, it HAS to drop one format.

2. Paramount contract also has some very strict clauses that allows them to back out if certain criteria isnt met, such as sales of discs.

3. Universal is the worst selling studio on HD DVD, which is sad, since it is their flagship studio. They want sales, and what better way then to introduce their catalog of titles on blu-ray? Just their going to blu-ray would double/triple sales of what they've done so far on HD DVD. Im sure the BDA also has a VERY sweet package for them to chew into.

4. Dual Format will never be the norm. There can only be 1 format, and this has been true from the past till now.

No offense but there is alot of speculation on 1 and 2 there as much as I would like it to be so.

[Elandyll]

Originally Posted by blitz6speed

1. Warner is being forced to make a choice by an outside contract. By end of february, it HAS to drop one format.

2. Paramount contract also has some very strict clauses that allows them to back out if certain criteria isnt met, such as sales of discs.

3. Universal is the worst selling studio on HD DVD, which is sad, since it is their flagship studio. They want sales, and what better way then to introduce their catalog of titles on blu-ray? Just their going to blu-ray would double/triple sales of what they've done so far on HD DVD. Im sure the BDA also has a VERY sweet package for them to chew into.

4. Dual Format will never be the norm. There can only be 1 format, and this has been true from the past till now.

Do you have any solid bases, such as inside information, for your #1 and #2 ?