81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[Blu-Ray Buckeye]

The charts on Page 10 of the Home Media Magazine attached above in this thread are very ugly for HD-DVD. First off, there is only 1 HD-DVD title in the Top 10 - PE, and the blu-ray version is also Top 10. Now look at the Aggregate By Title chart (for example they are listing total sales of PE on both formats along with various exclsuives titles or whatever... just total sales by titles) and see that there are no HD-DVD exclusives in the Top 10 at all. There are 4 dual-format titles and 6 BD exclusives... yikes!

Bottom line - of the Top 10 HD titles, blu-ray is getting a cut of ALL 10 and 6 are exclusive. HD-DVD is only partially touching 4 of them. That's painful.

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...1707/index.php

[nhaase]

I like seeing the sales indexes for each sole format. If you look at the #5 blu-ray title (Blood Diamond), it's index is 74.95. The #2 HD DVD title is Norbit at 46.41. That's just sad if you're a HD DVD supporter, especially factoring in that PE HD DVD's index compared to Apocalypto is 82.27.

Norbit's sales shows a preference for Blu-ray. It's indexes are:
BD - 77.78
HD - 38.35 (take 82.27, PE HD DVD's index, and multiply by 0.4661, Norbit HD DVD's index as a percentage)

Please correct me if that is not accurate. If it is, look at this:
38.35 x 2 = 76.70
If all that is correct, then Norbit BD outsold its HD DVD counterpart by more than a 2:1 ratio. This would hint that the fire sale isn't doing too much. I know Norbit might not be the best title for this comparison, but it did pretty well at the box office.

Letters from Iwo Jima's index also shows two things: Preference for Blu-ray and the staying power of demand for Blu-ray over HD DVD.

Once again, correct me if those numbers are wrongly calculated.

[marzetta7]

Originally Posted by Jack Torrance

I think the results for this weeks sales should see an increase from 66% thanks to Ghost Rider.

and 9 out of 10 of the top combined sellers is pretty damn good (seeing as the 1 HD-DUD title is probably skewed by a lot copies bought in error).

Great point. I just want to see 85-90% with Fox fully on board and WB finally releasing their good movies on Blu-ray--Batman Begins, V for Vendetta, Harry Potter, etc. If we get this, ah man, it'll be a slaughter...not that it really isn't already though.

[paulb]

There's a special HD section at the end of HMM that has SI and YTD sales numbers for the top 20 titles in each format.

Top 30 Titles (SI to May 27)
Casino Royale 83,600
The Departed 62,700
Batman Begins 53,500
Superman Returns 44,800
Superman Returns 39,300
The Departed 37,800
The Prestige 34,700
The Fifth Element 33,800
X-Men: The Last Stand 32,000
Underworld: Evolution 31,400
Ice Age: The Meltdown 28,300
Night at the Museum 28,100
Black Hawk Down 27,900
Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky 27,700
Serenity 26,200
Goodfellas 26,100
Troy 26,100
Mission: Impossible III 25,800
Happy Feet 25,500
Mission: Impossible III 25,500
Planet Earth: The Complete Series 25,400
Crank 24,800
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead... 23,700
Deja Vu 22,700
The Last Samurai 22,400
Terminator 2: Judgment Day 21,600
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse 21,100
Saw III 20,400
House of Flying Daggers 20,000

[babyBlu]

your numbers look correct nhasse

Originally Posted by nhaase

Letters from Iwo Jima's index also shows two things: Preference for Blu-ray and the staying power of demand for Blu-ray over HD DVD.

And with Toshiba bragging about having more HD players, you would think that HD DVD should have the stronger "staying power".

[The Don]

Originally Posted by Blu-Ray Buckeye

The charts on Page 10 of the Home Media Magazine attached above in this thread are very ugly for HD-DVD. First off, there is only 1 HD-DVD title in the Top 10 - PE, and the blu-ray version is also Top 10. Now look at the Aggregate By Title chart (for example they are listing total sales of PE on both formats along with various exclsuives titles or whatever... just total sales by titles) and see that there are no HD-DVD exclusives in the Top 10 at all. There are 4 dual-format titles and 6 BD exclusives... yikes!

Bottom line - of the Top 10 HD titles, blu-ray is getting a cut of ALL 10 and 6 are exclusive. HD-DVD is only partially touching 4 of them. That's painful.

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/ques...1707/index.php

imagine how bad it would look if all the people who incorrectly purchased PE on HD DVD had been better informed?...

ignorance is their saving grace..

[nhaase]

Something else to note: Go to the back of this HMM issue, and there is a special section for HD media. On page 17 of that section they have the units sold for the top 20 titles on each format. Here's the tops for each:

Format Title # sold Release date
BD - Casino Royale 83,600 03/13/2007
HD - Batman Begins 53,500 10/10/2006

Batman Begins had a 5-month head start on Casino Royale, and has only sold 64% of what Casino Royale has. It could be argued that this isn't the best comparison, as BB will be on BD, and CR is a true BD exclusive. So the highest-selling HD DVD true exclusive is Serenity, at 26,200, released on 4/18/2006.

Those are the dry numbers. HD DVD, read 'em 'n weep.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by paulb

There's a special HD section at the end of HMM that has SI and YTD sales numbers for the top 20 titles in each format.

Top 30 Titles (SI to May 27)
Casino Royale 83,600
The Departed 62,700
Batman Begins 53,500
Superman Returns 44,800
Superman Returns 39,300
The Departed 37,800
The Prestige 34,700
The Fifth Element 33,800
X-Men: The Last Stand 32,000
Underworld: Evolution 31,400
Ice Age: The Meltdown 28,300
Night at the Museum 28,100
Black Hawk Down 27,900
Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky 27,700
Serenity 26,200
Goodfellas 26,100
Troy 26,100
Mission: Impossible III 25,800
Happy Feet 25,500
Mission: Impossible III 25,500
Planet Earth: The Complete Series 25,400
Crank 24,800
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead... 23,700
Deja Vu 22,700
The Last Samurai 22,400
Terminator 2: Judgment Day 21,600
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse 21,100
Saw III 20,400
House of Flying Daggers 20,000

the main movies to look at on HD DVD are Batman Begins and Troy...if these were on BD....

goodnight Irene..

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by paulb

There's a special HD section at the end of HMM that has SI and YTD sales numbers for the top 20 titles in each format.

Wow. Total domination in that list.

I'm starting to agree with those that say Warner going BD exclusive would kill HD DVD faster than Universal going neutral.

There is only one Universal title in the top 30.

Gary

[paulb]

Top 24 Titles (YTD)
Casino Royale 83,600
The Departed 62,700
The Departed 37,800
The Prestige 34,700
Night at the Museum 28,100
Batman Begins 25,900
Happy Feet 25,500
Planet Earth: The Complete Series 25,400
Crank 24,800
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead... 23,700
Deja Vu 22,700
Superman Returns 22,600
Black Hawk Down 21,600
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse... 21,100
The Fifth Element 20,900
Saw III 20,400
Planet Earth: The Complete Series 19,300
Underworld: Evolution 19,100
Rocky Balboa 18,600
X-Men: The Last Stand 18,300
Eragon 17,800
The Pursuit of Happymss 17,800
Apocalypto 17,300
Smokin' Aces 17,200

[monkyman]

Most impressive.

[dialog_gvf]

Fox Ad

Simple message ad. Nothing but their logo and:

EXCLUSIVELY ON BLU-RAY DISC

[phloyd]

It is nice to see that they are aware if the concern that they are causing.

[marzetta7]

Originally Posted by paulb

There's a special HD section at the end of HMM that has SI and YTD sales numbers for the top 20 titles in each format.

Top 30 Titles (SI to May 27)
Casino Royale 83,600
The Departed 62,700
Batman Begins 53,500
Superman Returns 44,800
Superman Returns 39,300
The Departed 37,800
The Prestige 34,700
The Fifth Element 33,800
X-Men: The Last Stand 32,000
Underworld: Evolution 31,400
Ice Age: The Meltdown 28,300
Night at the Museum 28,100
Black Hawk Down 27,900
Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky 27,700
Serenity 26,200
Goodfellas 26,100
Troy 26,100
Mission: Impossible III 25,800
Happy Feet 25,500
Mission: Impossible III 25,500
Planet Earth: The Complete Series 25,400
Crank 24,800
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead... 23,700
Deja Vu 22,700
The Last Samurai 22,400
Terminator 2: Judgment Day 21,600
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse 21,100
Saw III 20,400
House of Flying Daggers 20,000

Nice find. Wow...just wow.

[Shin-Ra]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Fox Ad

Simple message ad. Nothing but their logo and:

EXCLUSIVELY ON BLU-RAY DISC

Love it.

[The Don]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Love it.

that image has sort of a 'teaser' feel to it....

[hyperdine]

I like the Disney ad too. They make a not so subtle dig at HD-DVD with their "Better Than Perfect" line. That's awesome.

[Jack Torrance]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Love it.

Indeed... makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Should put to rest an fears or concerns that some may have had about Fox's standing with blu-ray!

Now... announce some release dates Fox!

[Chad Varnadore]

I want to see what kind of numbers Blood Diamond did, if releasing it a month early makes the BD sales eclipse HD, Warner might take that as a sign, assuming their purpose was in gauging just that.

BTW, saw a diet Pepsi commercial the other day. Seemed humorously allegorical to the high def format war. Almost subliminal. They even got the colors right.

[Helicon]

I love this one....

Well done Disney

HD-DVD - The look and sound of perfect

Disney Blu-ray - Better than perfect