Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[BeastCreatureTrapper]

Originally Posted by Evangelos

I just can't wrap around my head that in the year 2020 a disease as life threatening as this could so easily spread all over the world...

Why? Modern travel and increased urbanization has accelerated the potential. If anything, I'm surprised it hasn't spread faster (and, yes, it probably has).

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by Unknown450

Remember the days when they'd tell us we don't listen when we were kids? Goodluck to your mom

I'm guessing tonight and the next couple days will be chaos here. Instead of people staying home and away from crowds they will flood the stores together to grab last min things.

We have definitely come full circle. Good luck to yours as well man.

I’m going to head out tomorrow to pick up some more supplies and food. Get what I need and get out...it’s in my county already so I need to be careful and just stay home for a while.

[MrHT]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

1,700 confirmed cases in New York!!!!!!

[Evangelos]

Originally Posted by BeastCreatureTrapper

Why? Modern travel and increased urbanization has accelerated the potential. If anything, I'm surprised it hasn't spread faster (and, yes, it probably has).

You do have a point on that.
It just feels off to me.
I just want to be optimistic about this,this has an undoubtedly affect on the psychology of everyone who has to treat a person with an threatening disease,or is one.
Just some news about medicine that will at least somehow protect the people at risk,that isn't months away.

[Unknown450]

Originally Posted by MrHT

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

1,700 confirmed cases in New York!!!!!!

Whats really scary is the overall closed cases ratio for Recovered/Deaths. Over 50% for deaths..

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Unknown450

Whats really scary is the overall closed cases ratio for Recovered/Deaths. Over 50% for deaths..

Funny thing. If you go back and look at the worldwide statistics for the Recovered/Deaths, it is 91%/9% worldwide. So something ain't right...

[Scottishguy]

The thing is a mass existential threat like this was always coming. Just like the black death (not in terms of mortality) forced Europe out of the stagnation of feudalism. This is going to be the kick up the ar*e for Western societies. We've effectively been living through the lingering 20th century these last 20 year's.

This crisis is likely to drive the push towards automation, the normalization of working from home. And, as anticipated, outbreaks over a 2 year period will fast track universal basic income. As governments like here can't keep offering financial relief up to the equivalent of 15% to 20%.

[BucketheadPikes]

I live in a small town & the first positive case of COVID-19 has been confirmed today in the county that my town is in. The individual is a woman between the ages of 20 and 30. No additional information about the patient has been released, so I don't know if the person is in my town or not. Our county Health Commissioner says that "it is likely that COVID-19 is spreading in our community, and we expect the number of confirmed cases to grow. It is imperative that all businesses, organizations, and residents follow social distancing practices to the best of their abilities."

Just seen that 4 Nets players tested positive for COVID-19, including Kevin Durant.

[MrHT]

I think at this point, part of me wishes I'd get it just so I can build immunity towards it. The way it's spreading now, I feel like all of us are going to get it at some point. So maybe the sooner I get it and recover from it (assuming I do), then the sooner I can stop living my life in fear.

[Chaotic]

You can still get it again.

[Partyslammer]

Originally Posted by mca213

the government wants to send every american a check for $1000.

I'd rather them forgive my likely $2000+ tax debt when I file this month.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I think at this point, part of me wishes I'd get it just so I can build immunity towards it. The way it's spreading now, I feel like all of us are going to get it at some point. So maybe the sooner I get it and recover from it (assuming I do), then the sooner I can stop living my life in fear.

There's nothing to be afraid of apart from other people doing stupid stuff. I mean you might get it, but what's more crucial is when you get it. We all need to do this to save the lives of our citizens, and ease the pressure on health services. Just keep calm, act rationally, take everything one day at a time.

[BeastCreatureTrapper]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

The thing is a mass existential threat like this was always coming. Just like the black death (not in terms of mortality) forced Europe out of the stagnation of feudalism. This is going to be the kick up the ar*e for Western societies. We've effectively been living through the lingering 20th century these last 20 year's.

This crisis is likely to drive the push towards automation, the normalization of working from home. And, as anticipated, outbreaks over a 2 year period will fast track universal basic income. As governments like here can't keep offering financial relief up to the equivalent of 15% to 20%.

I've been thinking about this all day, thoughts of Andrew Yang reverberating alongside this feeling that a changing workforce and UBI (universal basic income) may become a reality, in some form or fashion, sooner than expected.

Granted, not everyone can work from home, but when push came to shove, it appears that those who could did, and it starts begging the obvious questions about why it isn't the norm in certain sectors.

I think/hope people will start to rethink efficiency and practicality more after this is past us.

[Partyslammer]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

More and more testing is being done, so even in that regard, the numbers are going to go up a lot more every day. But it's still growing exponentially too. We have to hope the social distancing, and everything else starts to slow it down eventually, but we absolutely need to increase our testing capabilities significantly too.

New York City specifically is just growing out of control, and it's only a matter of time now before the city is on some kind of lock-down. Too many people just aren't taking it seriously enough.

NYC is a giant petri dish perfect for this kind of illness to spread. Think about it - millions of people living and confined in massive, tall buildings with shared ventilation systems just like cruise liners.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by BeastCreatureTrapper

I've been thinking about this all day, thoughts of Andrew Yang reverberating alongside this feeling that a changing workforce and UBI (universal basic income) may become a reality, in some form or fashion, sooner than expected.

Granted, not everyone can work from home, but when push came to shove, it appears that those who could did, and it starts begging the obvious questions about why it isn't the norm in certain sectors.

I think/hope people will start to rethink efficiency and practicality more after this is past us.

Also lab grown meat might suddenly start getting heavy investment off the back of this. I'd recommend anyone with a shares portfolio starts buying stock in those companies.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Partyslammer

NYC is a giant petri dish perfect for this kind of illness to spread. Think about it - millions of people living and confined in massive, tall buildings with shared ventilation systems just like cruise liners.

Singapore and Hongkong are more densely populated, and aren't riddled with it.

I mean Singapore is the size of my village city Edinburgh. But instead of 500,000 people, you have 5 million people living in that space!

[BeastCreatureTrapper]

Originally Posted by Partyslammer

I'd rather them forgive my likely $2000+ tax debt when I file this month.

Well, the IRS has at least extended the deadline for paying.

[Partyslammer]

Originally Posted by BeastCreatureTrapper

I've been thinking about this all day, thoughts of Andrew Yang reverberating alongside this feeling that a changing workforce and UBI (universal basic income) may become a reality, in some form or fashion, sooner than expected.

Granted, not everyone can work from home, but when push came to shove, it appears that those who could did, and it starts begging the obvious questions about why it isn't the norm in certain sectors.

I think/hope people will start to rethink efficiency and practicality more after this is past us.

You're always going to have a significant segment of society doing some sort of hands on manual labor. Add to that, people, at least so far in the 21st century online social interaction era, are still social animals that crave person-to-person contact. The kind of utopian society where *every* physical task is done by automation is hundreds if not thousands of years in the future. Further, humans are naturally competitive animals, not "hive" creatures like colonies of ants. Socialist societies as history has long proven, just don't work long term.

[BeastCreatureTrapper]

Originally Posted by Partyslammer

You're always going to have a significant segment of society doing some sort of hands on manual labor. Add to that, people, at least so far in the 21st century online social interaction era, are still social animals that crave person-to-person contact. The kind of utopian society where *every* physical task is done by automation is hundreds if not thousands of years in the future. Further, humans are naturally competitive animals, not "hive" creatures like colonies of ants. Socialist societies as history has long proven, just don't work long term.

Sure, I grant all of that, but I can definitely see a blending of the two approaches. It doesn't have to be all or nothing, right?

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Partyslammer

You're always going to have a significant segment of society doing some sort of hands on manual labor. Add to that, people, at least so far in the 21st century online social interaction era, are still social animals that crave person-to-person contact. The kind of utopian society where *every* physical task is done by automation is hundreds if not thousands of years in the future. Further, humans are naturally competitive animals, not "hive" creatures like colonies of ants. Socialist societies as history has long proven, just don't work long term.

Any extreme is bad. You need a mix of free enterprise and state. This crisis is already proving that. Of course not everything is going to be fully automated. But in those areas that become defined as requiring physical low skilled labour, wages will increase, plus UBI. These people can be more active in the economy, thus reducing income equality.