Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

food for thought:
as this question is bound to come up with the President since he is such a high-profile public figure, however, more relevantly to some of us is if personally faced with the same situation - When can a family member or friend (based on science) be considered not to be contagious to others?

So, the CDC guideline advises that 10 days after the onset of symptoms in a patient with ‘mild to moderate COVID-19’, one could be considered likely not contagious to others…..but, the twist is the CDC does not address with that general timeline benchmark the specific situation in which your family member or friend may have received steroids during the course of their treatment. Why is that an important consideration? Because steroids, not only being a cause of euphoria - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post18159662 and for that matter, insomnia, also likely extend the shedding of the SARS-CoV-2 as was concluded in a peer-reviewed published paper just last August -

“Furthermore, our results demonstrated a significant prolonged viral shedding time existed in non-severe patients receiving corticosteroid treatment”. That, supplemented by the fact that this same prolonged virus shedding was also previously seen with a different killer coronavirus several years ago…..complicates things.

So, other than timeline as a sole parameter, what would be a more definitive way to clear someone of being contagious to others? It’s certainly not simply them feeling good.

[y2jman]

well yesterday governor of tenn lifted covid 19 on restrictions on business gathering in 89 countries

including my little town


basically he signed Executive Order No. 63 that extends his State of Emergency through October but amends some restrictions, like allowing businesses and gatherings without size limitations in the 89 counties with state-run health departments.

still have to wear masks but then again half folks wear masks other's don't meh

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

....Pick one.

Lee, talking plans, reminder that come next week there’s open enrollment to change your current Medicare plan (including Part D).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by y2jman

well yesterday governor of tenn lifted covid 19 on restrictions on business gathering in 89 countries

including my little town

, isn't Tenn an orange death state on the last page?

[y2jman]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

, isn't Tenn an orange death state on the last page?

well my little down is doing pretty good but apparently my parents won't let me take any more taxi's so they have to take me places feels unsafe somebody might give me virus and I haven't been to planet fitness since march really want to go back 2 months ago some folks did get virus 1 day over pf now my dad scare to take me seems like it


oh Halloween isn't cancel this year for us




from our mayor you want trick-or-treaters turn your lights on, if you don’t want them, leave your lights off.

If you have COVID-19, or you could have been exposed to someone with COVID-19, you should not participate in trick or treating or give out candy to guests. If you are sick, stay home. Please use common sense to keep you and your family safe.

Halloween safety tips
• Share with your children that this year may be different but still will be fun.
• Talk with children about social distancing guidelines expectations. Keep a six-foot distance from others not in your group. To help with social distancing, go to one side of the street at a time and stay to the right.
• Trick or treat with people you live with.
• Avoid congregating in groups around houses.
• Wear a face mask covering both mouth and nose. A Halloween mask is not a substitute for a cloth mask.
• Do not wear a costume mask over a protective cloth mask if wearing both causes difficulty breathing. Instead, consider using a Halloween-themed cloth mask.
• Only go to houses with safety measures in place.
Tips for homeowners:
• Use duct tape to mark six-foot lines in front of home and leading to driveway/front door.
• Position a distribution table between yourself and trick-or-treaters.
• Distribute candy on a disinfected table to eliminate direct contact.
• Consider handing out candy in an open space where distancing is possible, rather than from the front door.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Plan A: Keep everything open and the hell with the increase in cases

Plan B: Close everything until the pandemic is over and lose 75% of all businesses.

Pick one.

As per Dr. Fauci, open up prudently!

The problem is, we either shut down or open up recklessly!

[Batman1980]

Our governor is extremely pissed, right now I'd say it's 80% likely she shuts down indoor dining again next Friday. Hopefully my hours won't dip too far below 30 after that happens, I know people are going to eat outside a lot less once we get into November and December. I don't entirely blame her but I don't think it's going to have the effect she desires. Our numbers are absolutely skyrocketing, people are going to continue to spread it to each other even if they can't do so eating together indoors.

[y2jman]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

Our governor is extremely pissed, right now I'd say it's 80% likely she shuts down indoor dining again next Friday. Hopefully my hours won't dip too far below 30 after that happens, I know people are going to eat outside a lot less once we get into November and December. I don't entirely blame her but I don't think it's going to have the effect she desires. Our numbers are absolutely skyrocketing, people are going to continue to spread it to each other even if they can't do so eating together indoors.

come on down tennesse my govern is swell heck we can be neighbers

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Lee, talking plans, reminder that come next week there’s open enrollment to change your current Medicare plan (including Part D).

Thank you for that. I just finally reach my deductible: $432. Pay $25/mo. How does that compare to yours? If my provider keeps everything the same I might stay put. If they raise either the deductible or the monthly charge, they are history.

PS: I am FINALLY 100% fit (other than being over weight). It took 15 months! I even stopped smoking!

[MrHT]

Why Fauci says pandemic 'didn't have to be this bad'

Why Fauci says pandemic 'didn't have to be this bad' - YouTube

[Pondosinatra]

**** me.

Alberta just hit an all time high for cases. And no, it’s not from increased testing.

They’re going to shut everything down again...

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Thank you for that. I just finally reach my deductible: $432. Pay $25/mo. How does that compare to yours?....

That comparison would be like apples to oranges, since it likely varies greatly state to state. Just run the numbers again this fall with all your expectant meds and see what pans out as the best deal overall for the year, for you at medicare.gov

My wife tells me that some of the people she’s cared for on specialty medications or those who prefer to pick-up their meds at local pharmacies rather than using mail order have experienced their prices for those situations jump around significantly from year to year between different plans.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

PS: I am FINALLY 100% fit (other than being over weight). It took 15 months! I even stopped smoking!

With your weight situation, in case you ever progress to becoming a diabetic, hopefully not, a little pearl my wife just passed onto me is that unbeknownst to some, despite blood glucose meters and strips being over the counter (non-prescription) as some diabetics purchase them that way, if your doctor writes a prescription for you, for them listing the ICD 10 code, you’ll pay like $2-3 as compared to something like over $100 for a 90 day supply.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

With your weight situation, in case you ever progress to becoming a diabetic, hopefully not, a little pearl my wife just passed onto me is that unbeknownst to some, despite blood glucose meters and strips being over the counter (non-prescription) as some diabetics purchase them that way, if your doctor writes a prescription for you, for them listing the ICD 10 code, you’ll pay like $2-3 as compared to something like over $100 for a 90 day supply.

Not grossly over weight: maybe 25 pounds. No one in my family tree has ever contracted diabetes so I feel safe I can avoid that one. Last blood pressure test (last week) was better than normal for someone of my age and weight.

[Lee A Stewart]

Originally Posted by MrHT

It didn't have to become global either. It could've stayed in China.

Pretty much impossible. By the time it was realized to be a contagion, people were already leaving China and arriving in their home countries.

[ltb2.0]

Originally Posted by MrHT

It didn't have to become global either. It could've stayed in China.

Doesn't matter where it started... it was always going to be global issue. One of the unintended side-effects of being able to travel anywhere in the world and global business.

It could've been minimized though.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by ltb2.0

Doesn't matter where it started... it was always going to be global issue. One of the unintended side-effects of being able to travel anywhere in the world and global business.

It could've been minimized though.

I don't understand why this wasn't minimized during the summer. The fact that cases are rising here in NY when we're doing the same thing we did two months ago just proves that it's much easier to slow the spread during warm weather. How warm states like Florida, Texas and California couldn't slow the spread, especially during the summer, is beyond me...

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Pretty much impossible. By the time it was realized to be a contagion, people were already leaving China and arriving in their home countries.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: next time, CLOSE THE AIRPORTS! All of them. Restrict inbound shipping. Set up roadblocks across State lines and test people. If someone absolutely has to travel, test them. This thing absolutely could've been prevented simply by restricting movement.

[JayTL]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

I've said it before and I'll say it again: next time, CLOSE THE AIRPORTS! All of them. Restrict inbound shipping. Set up roadblocks across State lines and test people. If someone absolutely has to travel, test them. This thing absolutely could've been prevented simply by restricting movement.

Still wouldn't have been enough, because
1. that takes time because
2. you can't just strand people overseas

[Member-222782]

Originally Posted by JayTL

...you can't just strand people overseas

Then pandemics will spiral out of control again

Anyone already in the air when an outbreak occurs should be allowed to proceed to their destination but that vacation in Tahiti you had planned for next week isn't worth risking making hundreds of people get sick or die.