Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Chaotic]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I guess the May 15th extension in NY isn't so bad. That means my June 5th vacation plans are still on. :)

Till the the order is extended again.

[neoz]

Kids are awesome. Just the fact that some parents aren't used to being around their kids all day.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by Dustin44

Truth! I was just about to post something similar.

Funny how I have all these Facebook friends of mine who always brag about their kids, and how great their kids are and telling me "Don't you want kids?" and "Why don't you want kids?"

Well, they all sure have gone quiet the last few weeks.

kids are great and all that yadi yadi yada

NOT so great in confined quarters for WEEKS on end trying to get work done! my wife and i always say, this wouldnt be bad at all if we didnt have kids! love em to death but damn, i can really relate to the below

[Batman1980]

Had Garmin issues on today's 5 mile run by my sister's house. My June marathon is still on, I imagine it'll happen unless restrictions aren't eased by then. If not, I guess I could try to run 26.2 miles somewhere else since I really don't want to miss a June race.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Dustin44

Truth! I was just about to post something similar.

Funny how I have all these Facebook friends of mine who always brag about their kids, and how great their kids are and telling me "Don't you want kids?" and "Why don't you want kids?"

Well, they all sure have gone quiet the last few weeks.

I used to regularly volunteer with kids and while they can be fun, they sure require a lot of energy, which I no longer possess. Sometimes, after spending a full day with kids, I end up arriving home with a migraine headache. It's worth it because I still like spending time with them, but I don't think my health can take being around them 24/7. So I can't imagine having kids of my own.

[intoanewlife]

I love children...when I can give them back...

[Batman1980]

Did they ever say what happened here when all those anti-violence nuts were going to storm Area 51 to protect guns?

[Britbuffguy]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I understand your point about the number of cases compared to China. However it's pretty well known that China has underreported the number of cases and deaths.

Anyway, there is no way a total lockdown would happen here. And shutting people in their homes without leaving for months is obviously going to slow the spread more that a stay at home order here.

And this is why the Stay At Home orders are gonna go on and on and on and on and on....until the vaccines.

'Mericans are their own worst enemy. People want this virus to go away, yet aren't willing to do the one thing that would help rid it in a few weeks.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Britbuffguy

And this is why the Stay At Home orders are gonna go on and on and on and on and on....until the vaccines.

'Mericans are their own worst enemy. People want this virus to go away, yet aren't willing to do the one thing that would help rid it in a few weeks.

Can't tell you how many people I see on the roads every day, betting 95% of them aren't doing anything essential. Best guess is most of them are just joyriding out of boredom.

P.S., during this pandemic, it should be considered to make it a ticketable offense to drive with your windows open or top down for no reason.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Wow, just wow! I'm finally starting to look on the bright side of things and you guys still attack me.

I think you need to find some middle ground.

[ThePreacher]

Originally Posted by Dustin44

Truth! I was just about to post something similar.

Funny how I have all these Facebook friends of mine who always brag about their kids, and how great their kids are and telling me "Don't you want kids?" and "Why don't you want kids?"

Well, they all sure have gone quiet the last few weeks.

My kids are still awesome. They aren't little jerks. They're little angels and they've made this all easy. Our conference calls for work and what not have gone on without any issues. I think that most issues with kids comes down to unrealistic expectations from parents and simple bad-parenting.

[Moviefan1203]

Originally Posted by ThePreacher

My kids are still awesome. They aren't little jerks. They're little angels and they've made this all easy. Our conference calls for work and what not have gone on without any issues. I think that most issues with kids comes down to unrealistic expectations from parents and simple bad-parenting.

I echo this. My wife and I have 3 and 5 year olds. They have been amazing.

[THE_FORCE]

I’m only going to post this as a snippet of truth, but also to see if it gets removed.

I work closely with both hospitals and doctors as part of my job. Everyday. I get the facts from the horses mouth’s, not from the media propoganda tablets that most seem happy to swallow.

Here in the UK, we’ve been lead to believe that the NHS is completely overwhelmed and on the verge of collapse. The truth is anything but.

3 major hospitals that cover the south of England. Exeter, Southampton and Eastbourne. All are wholly overstaffed due to this media farce. The hospitals are half empty and hospital death rates are roughly half of what they normally are at this time of year. The staff are twiddling their thumbs...still waiting for this proposed government-induced ‘pandemic’.

You won’t see this reported or televised.

The county I live in has a population of over 550,000 and is relatively close to London on the south coast. We’ve only had 37 deaths this year from people that showed positive from the virus, and that includes persons from home deaths or from retirement homes. They ALL had underlying health problems.

I’ll let you work out the minuscule percentage of the death rate compared to our population.

I will stand by my previous comment that the Lockdown was, and is, a farce. Well over a million people applying for Universal Credit in a two week period. Well over 10% of the working population out of work due to the government’s knee-jerk reaction based on a ‘software model’ by some boffs at Cambridge that doesn’t take into account real world variances.

Central London has been hard hit because the government has allowed mass illegal immigrancy over the last decade, and that is where the major density of Covid cases have occured in the UK. Most cases aren’t British, let alone indingenous to the area.

The reason why you don’t see swathes of case studies or video evidence in the UK is that most deaths occured to people that can’t even speak English. That’s going to look great on the TV - the London hospitals are suffering due to foreigners that have just come in off the boat. How are the government going to promote their beloved NHS if people witnessed the truth?

..and for those claiming that the empty hospitals are due to the governments actions and social distancing regulations, I ask you this:

Don’t drive incase you end up in a crash.
Don’t cross the road incase you get knocked over by a bus.
Don’t smoke incase you get cancer.
Don’t go outside incase you die.

Of course death rate is going to be reduced in the short term if everyone stays inside...that hypothesis works whether Covid existed or not. But will the human race survive with such extreme measures?

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by THE_FORCE

I’m only going to post this as a snippet of truth, but also to see if it gets removed.

I work closely with both hospitals and doctors as part of my job. Everyday. I get the facts from the horses mouth’s, not from the media propoganda tablets that most seem happy to swallow.

[Show spoiler]
Here in the UK, we’ve been lead to believe that the NHS is completely overwhelmed and on the verge of collapse. The truth is anything but.

3 major hospitals that cover the south of England. Exeter, Southampton and Eastbourne. All are wholly overstaffed due to this media farce. The hospitals are half empty and hospital death rates are roughly half of what they normally are at this time of year. The staff are twiddling their thumbs...still waiting for this proposed government-induced ‘pandemic’.

You won’t see this reported or televised.

The county I live in has a population of over 550,000 and is relatively close to London on the south coast. We’ve only had 37 deaths this year from people that showed positive from the virus, and that includes persons from home deaths or from retirement homes. They ALL had underlying health problems.

I’ll let you work out the minuscule percentage of the death rate compared to our population.

I will stand by my previous comment that the Lockdown was, and is, a farce. Well over a million people applying for Universal Credit in a two week period. Well over 10% of the working population out of work due to the government’s knee-jerk reaction based on a ‘software model’ by some boffs at Cambridge that doesn’t take into account real world variances.

Central London has been hard hit because the government has allowed mass illegal immigrancy over the last decade, and that is where the major density of Covid cases have occured in the UK. Most cases aren’t British, let alone indingenous to the area.

The reason why you don’t see swathes of case studies or video evidence in the UK is that most deaths occured to people that can’t even speak English. That’s going to look great on the TV - the London hospitals are suffering due to foreigners that have just come in off the boat. How are the government going to promote their beloved NHS if people witnessed the truth?

..and for those claiming that the empty hospitals are due to the governments actions and social distancing regulations, I ask you this:

Don’t drive incase you end up in a crash.
Don’t cross the road incase you get knocked over by a bus.
Don’t smoke incase you get cancer.
Don’t go outside incase you die.

Of course death rate is going to be reduced in the short term if everyone stays inside...that hypothesis works whether Covid existed or not. But will the human race survive with such extreme measures?

Any credibility you have gets thrown out the window when:

A) You immediately reference "media propaganda"
B) You're posting to see if it gets removed
C) You think that your specific experience at your specific location is concrete evidence of what's happening everywhere...especially from someone who's clearly chomping at the bit to spout nonsense that contradicts "media propaganda"

[bruceames]

I do wonder what the hospital occupancy rates rates are, compared to the norm. Is it not possible to get that information? I know in California we have at least 4 times the ICU capacity as there are patients currently, and ICU cases have leveled off (meaning just as many beds becoming empty as there are new arrivals).

Anyway it's good news that apparently the hospitals are not going to be overwhelmed like they were in Italy.

[THE_FORCE]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Any credibility you have gets thrown out the window when:

A) You immediately reference "media propaganda"
B) You're posting to see if it gets removed
C) You think that your specific experience at your specific location is concrete evidence of what's happening everywhere

A) it is media propoganda
B) I, and many others, had their posts removed in this thread for no valid reason. I was banned for questioning it.
C) I haven’t just given a specific location...I cited the South of England. That represents a decent percentage of England as a whole.

So please, how has my credibility ‘got thrown out the window’?

[ThePreacher]

Isn't this kind of nonsensical political crap why this thread got locked before?

Here's what I believe....the virus is a serious thing because we don't know as much about it as we do know about other viruses. MOST people, will either not get it or will be okay if they do get it (in other words, they won't require hospitalization).

With that said, do I trust Bill Gates and "Big Pharma" (aka pharmaceutical companies)? Absolutely not. Do I trust Donald Trump and the American government (Republican or Democrat)? Absolutely not.

Take as many precautions as are advised. Take the time to better yourself - whether that is through hobbies, faith, or something else. What is complaining going to do to help anyone? Nada. Here's a hint...NO ONE likes being locked down. NO ONE likes seeing loved ones sick. NO ONE likes seeing the economy crash. We just gotta get through it.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by ThePreacher

MOST people, will either not get it or will be okay if they do get it (in other words, they won't require hospitalization).

That is pure BS! The news over the past month has been nothing but stories of people either dying or in critical condition in the hospital. MOST people who get it are going to go through hell and that's what is scary!

[THE_FORCE]

Originally Posted by MrHT

That is pure BS! The news over the past month has been nothing but stories of people either dying or in critical condition in the hospital. MOST people who get it are going to go through hell and that's what is scary!

Do you suffer from mental health issues? If you’re like the rest of us then I’m assuming the answer to that is a resounding ‘yes’. Welcome to our world.

Seriously mate, avoid the news. We have this place over here in the UK called ‘Beachy Head’ which is this wonderful hotspot where people love to throw themselves over the cliffs. You may have seen it on the TV.

Regardless, 3 people threw themselves over there last weekend and I don’t want you to give the government the benefit of an extra figure...even though it hasn’t been reported anywhere in our news because, obviously, any non-Covid death is negligible and non news-worthy.

Stay sane my man.

[ahossein79]

Originally Posted by ThePreacher

No, you are freaking out over everything instead of being balanced or composed in your response. What can you do by worrying? You're just creating more health issues for yourself. It's okay not to be in control. Many in the medical community tie anxiety and stress to other diseases or sicknesses.

My comment isn't BS. The VAST majority of Americans (and people globally) either do not have COVID-19 or have been okay if they get it. More people have died from other causes, but you aren't freaking out about those causes (Heart disease, cancer, etc). Also, the VAST majority of those who have sadly died have had underlying health problems (obesity, heart disease, kidney disease, lung problems, etc).

Is MrHT short for "Mr. Hyper-Tension?" Just try to find something that relaxes you. Sheesh.

I completely agree with your statement it is amazing how people are no longer using logic or reason when assessing this pandemic. I understand people are going to react to fear of the unknown but it is getting way out of hand. You also hit on another point that i have been making that people are freaking out that they can't CONTROL this. We all really don't know what the proper response to this pandemic is. I say we should open the economy slowly as the President has suggested. I am more of a believer in herd community rather than a vaccine. Life will go on soon we have to be patient and reasonable. I am going to use facts in my life and I am not going to sit in a corner in a fetal position living scared either. Death happens it sucks and I know people hate it but not much we can do about it either. People are attributing the lower death rates only to social distancing....maybe so but maybe the initial estimates were blown out of proportion and we overestimated this. It's sad neither side will listen to a differing view point without getting upset and labeling you an awful person if you dare decide to THINK for yourself.