Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Chaotic]

Seeing comments like "Nurses chose their profession, they need to suck it up and stop complaining" really irks me.

[meremortal]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Seeing comments like "Nurses chose their profession, they need to suck it up and stop complaining" really irks me.

That's pretty triggering. I've also heard a lot of bad stories from people who are working long hours right now with customers who constantly get up in their face without a mask or any respect for social distancing. Or someone will be wearing a mask and they'll pull it all the way down their face to talk to them from like a foot away.

[Hitman Horton]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Presumably not on the internet then?

Not on any public forum on the internet. Not in my experience. If it's out there, I haven't found it...although I haven't really looked for it either.

[Eye Candy]

Originally Posted by Hitman Horton

I have nothing against him. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to continue posting here if the responses he gets just make him mad. He should go somewhere else where the interactions are positive.

He should find an echo chamber to hang out in, before and after visiting threads/sites where anyone can be attacked, depending what they're for or against.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Wow, either you really are picking a fight or I literally have to spell every word out for you. Geez!

Yes, people should order groceries and try to avoid going out, if possible. But there are people like healthcare workers who MUST go out because their job is essential. And this is why I stress the importance of staying indoors and taking care of yourself. Because if you don't, you are putting healthcare workers at risk due to YOUR negligence of exposing yourself to the virus and also, doing something stupid like not wearing a mask.




Oh please, give me a break. Spare me the nonsense that you continuously spew out of your mouth! Just because some people don't practice what they preach does not give you the excuse to act stupid yourself. Come on! Wear a mask because you have the decency to protect others, not because Cuomo is or isn't doing it.




How about you just listen to what they say and not worry about what they are doing on their personal lives? Cuomo said wear a mask. DO IT! De Blasio says to limit travel to non essential places. DO IT!

End of story. No ifs, ands or buts!

Cuomo also said if you and your families stay home then you'll be fine. We found out yesterday that isn't necessarily the case.

[mar3o]

Update about the guy that wiped his face on a Dollar Tree employee's shirt:

https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-man-...155754511.html

I'm sure they should be able to come up with a few charges for him.

And he was 68! Unstable people like him should get tagged and monitored once they're in the system like this. This likely wasn't the first time he acted like this in public and probably won't be the last. This time he was just caught on video.

[Mike16]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Update about the guy that wiped his face on a Dollar Tree employee's shirt:

https://news.yahoo.com/michigan-man-...155754511.html

I'm sure they should be able to come up with a few charges for him.

And he was 68! Unstable people like him should get tagged and monitored once they're in the system like this. This likely wasn't the first time he acted like this in public and probably won't be the last. This time he was just caught on video.

Age and job status be damned if I was that employee, that customer wouldn't be walking out of the store.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Mike16

Age and job status be damned if I was that employee, that customer wouldn't be walking out of the store.

[Pondosinatra]

Apparently America is just going to shoot it's way out of the Pandemic...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/us/mc...rus/index.html

[Bigdog]

I have been a member on another site i visit for a couple decades now and have known this person for many years now.

He has a brother who is a ER nurse in NYC. He caught the virus a couple weeks back and has thankfully made a full recovery. He had used the combo z-pac/anti Mallari drug that Trump had touted a month or so back and has also seen it used to successfully treat hundreds of patients at his hospital.

So it came as a complete shock to him and all of his fellow co workers when he arrived back to work and was receiving emails telling him to not use that cheap and readily available and effective drug combo, but to use Remdesivir instead.

Remdesivir - which is backed by some big money, Bill Gates foundation to name one. The Doctor's and Nurses are quite upset by all of this since they are the ones on the front lines and have seen the results and what treatments work first hand.

I truly hope they are not playing politics with peoples lives here, because that is what it is looking like to me!

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Bigdog

I have been a member on another site i visit for a couple decades now and have known this person for many years now.

He has a brother who is a ER nurse in NYC. He caught the virus a couple weeks back and has thankfully made a full recovery. He had used the combo z-pac/anti Mallari drug that Trump had touted a month or so back and has also seen it used to successfully treat hundreds of patients at his hospital.

So it came as a complete shock to him and all of his fellow co workers when he arrived back to work and was receiving emails telling him to not use that cheap and readily available and effective drug combo, but to use Remdesivir instead.

Remdesivir - which is backed by some big money, Bill Gates foundation to name one. The Doctor's and Nurses are quite upset by all of this since they are the ones on the front lines and have seen the results and what treatments work first hand.

I truly hope they are not playing politics with peoples lives here, because that is what it is looking like to me!

That first drug is super dangerous to some people. I believe it can cause heart failure.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by Bigdog

I have been a member on another site i visit for a couple decades now and have known this person for many years now.

He has a brother who is a ER nurse in NYC. He caught the virus a couple weeks back and has thankfully made a full recovery. He had used the combo z-pac/anti Mallari drug that Trump had touted a month or so back and has also seen it used to successfully treat hundreds of patients at his hospital.

So it came as a complete shock to him and all of his fellow co workers when he arrived back to work and was receiving emails telling him to not use that cheap and readily available and effective drug combo, but to use Remdesivir instead.

Remdesivir - which is backed by some big money, Bill Gates foundation to name one. The Doctor's and Nurses are quite upset by all of this since they are the ones on the front lines and have seen the results and what treatments work first hand.

I truly hope they are not playing politics with peoples lives here, because that is what it is looking like to me!

I believe it was a German? study that showed that drug made no difference in a trial study...

[MifuneFan]

2 McDonald's employees shot after telling customer dining room was closed due to COVID-19, police say

OKLAHOMA CITY -- Two McDonald's employees were shot inside an Oklahoma City restaurant after the suspect became upset when she was told the dining room was closed due to the coronavirus pandemic, police said.

Oklahoma City Police Department said the 32-year-old female customer, whose name has not been released, got into a physical altercation with employees Wednesday evening, left the store and returned with a handgun.

One male employee was shot in the arm, another was hit in the neck and shoulder area and a third suffered from a shrapnel wound on his side. The suspect was arrested within minutes of the shooting.

McDonald's CEO Chris Kempczinski spoke on "Good Morning America Thursday, saying the two employees who were shot "are OK and they're going to have a full recovery."

"Obviously, it's a heinous crime, particularly because these two people were trying to really support public health," Kempczinski said. "I think what you're seeing in this situation is really what you're seeing in a variety of situations across the country which is this tension about opening, people's concern about it, but there's absolutely no excuse for violence, particularly gun violence."

This shooting is one of several instances of violence sparked by anger over coronavirus restrictions.

Last week, a woman, her adult son and husband were charged in the fatal shooting of a security guard who refused to let her daughter enter a Flint, Michigan, Family Dollar because she wasn't wearing a face mask.

And about 20 miles away in Holly, Michigan, a man was accused of wiping his nose on a Dollar Tree clerk's shirt when he was told to wear a mask Tuesday.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Cuomo also said if you and your families stay home then you'll be fine. We found out yesterday that isn't necessarily the case.

Stop with the misinformation. First, we know very little about those incidences, and are relying on their word. And the key is these people mostly stayed home. Which is to say that they didn't completely stay home, and were just as vulnerable as anyone else when they went out. Just going to a grocery store once every 2 weeks for instance could be enough to get infected. We also don't have info on whether any of these people had other family members who were essential workers, or going out in general. You could stay home all you want, but if you have a daughter that's hanging out, going to the market, not wearing a mask and/or any other safety measures, and then coming home, then you're just as vulnerable as if you went out yourself. Cuomo also never stated that if you and your families stay home you'll be fine. Independent of living in a bubble with zero human/outside interaction, everyone has to take proper precautions regardless, and that's what Cuomo has stated repeatedly.

Also, I'm not even entirely sure if this survey is even painting an accurate picture. Look at the options here. Even most essential workers are going to choose home, because they're not in jail, a nursing facility, homeless etc.. They were at home when they likely realized they had to get help...

[Dollar Colonel]

Originally Posted by meremortal

I have a headache from reading all the propaganda from locals on FB. People are still spouting "the flu is way worse," "they can't make me wear a mask!," "this is way overblown and always has been," "I'm not taking Bill Gates' vaccine," and basically ignoring science and public health in general. And these people are pretty much getting unanimous likes and shares from their friends. Some of these people are high earning folks or have positions of power in their towns and it's frustrating to see.

Just quit Facebook like I did a couple of years ago. Deactivate it (you can always activate it later), try it out for a couple of weeks, and then weeks become years. FB was really tiring, both in me trying to present the best version of myself and in seeing others I respect degrade/reveal themselves.

Real friends would find a way to stay in touch. Deactivating FB doesn't stop Messenger functionality if that's your only way of contacting people.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Stop with the misinformation. First, we know very little about those incidences, and are relying on their word. And the key is these people mostly stayed home. Which is to say that they didn't completely stay home, and were just as vulnerable as anyone else when they went out. Just going to a grocery store once every 2 weeks for instance could be enough to get infected. We also don't have info on whether any of these people had other family members who were essential workers, or going out in general. You could stay home all you want, but if you have a daughter that's hanging out, going to the market, not wearing a mask and/or any other safety measures, and then coming home, then you're just as vulnerable as if you went out yourself. Cuomo also never stated that if you and your families stay home you'll be fine. Independent of living in a bubble with zero human/outside interaction, everyone has to take proper precautions regardless, and that's what Cuomo has stated repeatedly.

Also, I'm not even entirely sure if this survey is even painting an accurate picture. Look at the options here. Even most essential workers are going to choose home, because they're not in jail, a nursing facility, homeless etc.. They were at home when they likely realized they had to get help...

That's not misinformation, that's direct stats from hospital visits. Cuomo even said that this is both surprising and concerning. Also, why would people lie? It's not an arrestable offense to leave your house. I could see people lying if there were legal consequences for going out, but there not.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

2 McDonald's employees shot after telling customer dining room was closed due to COVID-19, police say

Hey, I get to be 'that guy' for a change...

This was already posted.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

That's not misinformation, that's direct stats from hospital visits. Cuomo even said that this is both surprising and concerning. Also, why would people lie? It's not an arrestable offense to leave your house. I could see people lying if there were legal consequences for going out, but there not.

It's misinformation because you're framing it as if these people just stayed home, when he said they mostly stayed home. That's a big difference. He also never said you'd be fine if you just stayed home, so that's misinformation too.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Pondosinatra

Hey, I get to be 'that guy' for a change...

This was already posted.

I provided some context rather than just a link, but fair enough

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by Dollar Colonel

Just quit Facebook like I did a couple of years ago. Deactivate it (you can always activate it later), try it out for a couple of weeks, and then weeks become years. FB was really tiring, both in me trying to present the best version of myself and in seeing others I respect degrade/reveal themselves.

Real friends would find a way to stay in touch. Deactivating FB doesn't stop Messenger functionality if that's your only way of contacting people.

I would deactivate it but that would include the groups I'm in as well (mostly about running). Unfortunately FB groups are replacing traditional forums like this (although obviously this forum isn't being threatened), and I get a lot of valuable info from those groups. So I'm basically roped in.