Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Most of life's problems can be solved with a swim up margarita bar.

for you other easy-fix medicated types, don’t bother searching for a GoodRx coupon for this pill -



as there isn’t one. You’re only option is to live vicariously thru your TV screen on August 14th

[Penton-Man]

early stage human trial data on recombinant vaccine AZD1222 – https://secure.jbs.elsevierhealth.co...sent?code=null

expected Monday in The Lancet

[Batman1980]

Many businesses are struggling during the pandemic. One New Mexico man says he’s especially feeling it, because all four of his businesses are in the hospitality industry.

The man’s attorney says they are suing the governor and this could be the first of many lawsuits of this kind. Attorney Blair Dunn says his client, Madux Hobbs, is the owner of two restaurants, a catering business, and a couple of vacation rental properties in Roswell.

Dunn says all four of Hobbs’ businesses have suffered over the past few months because of the governor’s public health restrictions. Dunn says the 14-day quarantine for out-of-state visitors has discouraged travelers from coming to New Mexico, slowing down business for Hobbs’ vacation rental properties.

“It’s hard to go some place when you can’t really get out to eat much, you can’t do much when you’re out and about. Everything’s closed down,” says Dunn.

That’s why Hobbs is suing the state, including Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham and Health Secretary Kathy Kunkel. In the lawsuit, Hobbs claims if the government is going to shut down his businesses, then they should be paying him for all the revenue he has lost during this time.

Dunn did say Hobbs filed for small business loans, but that only covered rent and wages for his employees. Hobbs relies on the revenue from his businesses to support his family.

KRQE News 13 reached out to the governor’s office for comment, but haven’t heard back. When she was asked about her decision to restrict indoor dining again, earlier this month, the governor acknowledged restaurants are not at fault, but she said the restrictions are necessary to save the lives of New Mexicans.

Source - KRQE.com

[Waboman]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

for you other easy-fix medicated types, don’t bother searching for a GoodRx coupon for this pill -

[Show spoiler]

as there isn’t one. You’re only option is to live vicariously thru your TV screen on August 14th

Once again, good sir, you have me confused. No idea what you're getting at here. But I appreciate the effort.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

Disney World opened today. Guests wearing protective masks wait to pick up their tickets.

I'm sorry, but this is off topic. But I can't help but notice the footwear on a lot of those people in that picture. Many are wearing flip flops and Birkenstocks and one person there is wearing some sort of thick sole sandal! Do people not realize how much walking is required at Disney World? People should be wearing athletic shoes to Disney World and nothing else.

[y2jman]

I tell you what folks both of my nostrils still not feeling good esp my right side after swab yesterday eh It did help get stuff out left side when I blew my nose when got home at least I didn't have to the swab mouth part meh

[ctujackbauer]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Crime is up, the virus continues to spread, and people seem to becoming more and more frustrated with each passing day. I've seen more road rage in the last 4 months than I've seen in my entire life and there is less traffic. These issues aren't going to go away until we unify and do what's necessary to end this pandemic. The sad part is that I can't see that happening.

I always thought less traffic would be a good thing, but I've seen more people blow red lights in the past 2 months than I have in my entire life. One was a protected left turner who amazingly didn't get t-boned when the straight-through cars got a green while he/she was supposed to just stay on the red left-turn. Another was a raised truck getting frustrated with a slow car, passing the slow car by swerving through a lane, and flying through the other side of the intersection.

I'll admit to the road rage (justifiable) I honked after I had to swerve to avoid them turning left, and the lady proceeded to cut off someone else right after me (she must have been in a hurry).

Drivers are straight up brazen now in Los Angeles, not even counting the seemingly nightly car chases on tv. I haven't honked at anyone in years.

[Batman1980]

When Congress approved the eye-popping $2.2 trillion coronavirus relief bill in March, it was the biggest rescue of its kind in U.S. history.

Now, with the pandemic worsening, it’s clear that package was only the start, and Congress returns to work Monday to try to draft another one. The current round of aid is running out. Extra employment benefits expire and so does a federal eviction freeze. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is poised to roll out his $1 trillion-plus proposal.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi already has pushed through a more sweeping $3 trillion effort. Big spending that Congress hoped to avoid now seems inevitable.

Source - KRQE.com

[Moviefan1203]

There’s a lot of people really struggling right now. I hope the Senate recognizes this.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Let's just say that your country doesn't have the widespread "people problem" that ours does.

Maybe. There will always be problematic people (if that was not the case this would not be a problem any longer), but what I meant was I can easily see the difference between making them mandatory and not.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by MrHT

What makes the big difference between here and in Florida or Texas is that people here in NY are doing it outdoors. Indoor dining and drinking is still not allowed, but they are allowed in other states. Now that certainly doesn't mean that we should go wild outdoors, but I'm just saying that it's FAR more likely to catch the virus indoors as opposed to outdoors. And now I know why museum and malls aren't allowed to open. Probably a smart move after all since people are too dumb to do the right thing...

I think the biggest difference is timing. That is what makes this things so difficult. Opening or closing stuff up won't affect the numbers the same day circumstances change, you won't see it in the next week, it takes a month or two for sick and an other month or two for deaths to follow the new "wave".

[Batman1980]

A New Mexico restaurant that’s publicly defying the governor’s health order is now garnering national attention.

Michael Moore, the owner of Pizza Inn in Hobbs, appeared on Fox and Friends Saturday morning. The restaurant continues to serve dine-in customers, despite losing its foodservice permits at locations in Hobbs and Carlsbad earlier this week.

Moore claims he must stay open so his employees can provide for their families, but the governor’s office says the move will spread the coronavirus. The environment Department says it is pursuing further enforcement against Pizza Inn.

Source - KRQE.com

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Once again, good sir, you have me confused. No idea what you're getting at here.

I thought I was the only one.

I need a decoder ring to understand any of them.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Waboman

Once again, good sir, you have me confused. No idea what you're getting at here. But I appreciate the effort.

for those of us dealing day-to-day with the stress of the pandemic, especially with direct experience, be it thru family/friends –

Florida and Texas Hospitals Overwhelmed As Coronavirus Cases Surge | NBC Nightly News - YouTube

sometimes one needs an occasional 2hr. diversion to cope with real life if one doesn’t have access to Waboman’s swim up Margarita bar, ergo an upcoming movie next month -

Project Power starring Jamie Foxx | Official Trailer | Netflix - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

I thought I was the only one.
I need a decoder ring to understand any of them.

Looks like the Lancet description I linked above didn’t go thru due to the blocked cookie thing
AZD1222 is the University of Oxford vaccine

[shane01]

Originally Posted by Moviefan1203

There’s a lot of people really struggling right now. I hope the Senate recognizes this.

I wish there was a way to help restaurant and bar business owners and the staff directly with the government funding. I would prefer that to a 2nd check made out to me. It’d also be a way to keep the businesses afloat without the risk of potentially creating “superspreader” events by resuming indoor operations. Incentive to stay closed for a bit longer and should flatten the curve.

[Penton-Man]

in terms of medicine, causes for optimism
timestamp ~ 46:40
re: therapeutics in the works to be administered early, like monoclonal antibodies, etc. followed by Tony’s assessment of the current state (as of last Thursday, July 16, time of the interview) of vaccine development including a short explanation of the value of neutralizing antibodies

WATCH: Dr. Fauci interviewed by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg about coronavirus and vaccines - YouTube

P.S.
And later on in the interview, Tony answering other less technical questions related to mask wearing, aerosolization of the virus

[veritas]

Originally Posted by shane01

I wish there was a way to help restaurant and bar business owners and the staff directly with the government funding. I would prefer that to a 2nd check made out to me. It’d also be a way to keep the businesses afloat without the risk of potentially creating “superspreader” events by resuming indoor operations. Incentive to stay closed for a bit longer and should flatten the curve.

With our current actions trying to hold R at 1 its kind of a waste of money trying to even save restaurants. If anything has been shown by americas strategy its that partial shutdowns with massive numbers of exceptions are not very effective. like with the current restrictions our best case scenario is stop growth at like 80k sick a day.

Personally I think you need to shut down nearly everything for a couple of weeks to achieve an R of around .3 like the chinese. with a harsh lockdown enforcement is possible and the shutdowns last weeks rather then years (at our current level of lockdown heard immunity will take around 3 to 4 years for the country).

[shane01]

Originally Posted by veritas

With our current actions trying to hold R at 1 its kind of a waste of money trying to even save restaurants. If anything has been shown by americas strategy its that partial shutdowns with massive numbers of exceptions are not very effective. like with the current restrictions our best case scenario is stop growth at like 80k sick a day.

Personally I think you need to shut down nearly everything for a couple of weeks to achieve an R of around .3 like the chinese. with a harsh lockdown enforcement is possible and the shutdowns last weeks rather then years (at our current level of lockdown heard immunity will take around 3 to 4 years for the country).

I completely agree. I am totally in favor of a total lockdown for a short time rather than endless “soft” lockdown and roller coaster reopening. Sadly the name of the game is compromise. Without being specific, for the sake of the rules of the thread, I feel a vocal portion of many communities will resist anything that strict 4 months after the start of the initial pandemic shutdowns. We missed our window to crush the curve.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Feel free to look on Twitter at the videos of Steinway street in Astoria. It's been that way for a week or two and its getting worse. It lasts all night and doesn't really get crazy until midnight. They're calling it Miami North.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ItsM_E_Z/...13143217823745

https://mobile.twitter.com/jesusanam...09523931566080

How this virus isn't making a comeback here right now, I don't know.

A bar (Brik) on Steinway st. in Astoria has been temporarily suspended now. I'm sure more suspensions are coming.