Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by ctujackbauer

I've read that it's different in other areas, but Walmart grocery pickup broke down in the March/April grocery shortages.

I don't buy food at WM (not that it is important) but back in March/Apr when I tried on-line shopping for the first time it was extremely hard to get a delivery/pickup window during the week and I had to place my order ASAP, Now it is much easier. Early on, like most of us, stores were not well equipped for this, but at least here things have gotten much better. I would definitely not go with what happened in March/April and try it again.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I'm popping in here after my one month hiatus from this thread

glad to see you are doing OK

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by Cinema84

I don't understand how this works. Every day that passes, the number goes higher and higher - are these actual new cases every day? This means that hundreds of thousands of people are going out and getting tested daily. That sounds like a mobilization. Many people I've spoken with at work have no plans of getting a test and some have never even been tested. I, myself, only got a test just a few weeks ago and I never would've gone for one if it hadn't been because my dad flew in from where he lives to visit me (against my wishes). There's a LOT of people out there who still don't believe the virus is real (viewers of FOX news, mostly) and refuse to wear masks. So if this is a mobilization, municipalities and local governments are doing something right for a change.

Yes, new cases every day. And it's not from increased testing driving up the numbers. It's more and more people getting sick and going to get tested and coming back positive.

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by MrHT

... I'm in complete amazement at how the infection rate has gotten as high as it is today!...

Well this hasn't been mentioned for awhile...but I believe most of the world is now dealing with the virus strain that has been shown to be much more infectious than the original strain that hit China and neighbouring countries. Couple that with pandemic fatigue and colder weather driving people inside...

[Chaotic]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I'm popping in here after my one month hiatus from this thread to express my complete shock and concern for the staggering number of new cases over these past few weeks. We are at the point where some states have hit a 50% infection rate!!!!

Now, I'm going to assume the best in people and hope that most, if not everyone, are wearing masks, socially distancing and only going out for essential purposes. If that's the case, then I'm in complete amazement at how the infection rate has gotten as high as it is today! We are 8 months into this pandemic and things have gotten worse instead of better. I guess we're completely deadlocked on a solution other than hoping that the vaccine will completely solve this. Though at this point, I'm not optimistic that it will and this may be worse, much worse, than the Spanish Flu!

lol

[ctujackbauer]

Originally Posted by Batman1980

Protests in Huntington Beach as people are unhappy with the 10 PM-5 AM curfew.

Good.

Counties aren't enforcing it, which makes it pointless. A few select cities like Costa Mesa are enforcing it with "education" and not arrests, which also makes it pointless.

Gavy Newsom picked a heckuva time to get caught at the French Laundry dining with people from outside his family without a mask. And California state legislators picked a heckuva time to get caught after flying to Hawaii for a conference held by a lobbying firm. All of those hypocrites can pound sand.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

They have been showing long lines at grocery stores here. So we have been hesitant to do any "fill-in shopping." At 7:15 I told my son: "let's take a ride." We are going to go first to Walmart than Dollar Tree. In the car we decided to reverse the order. If we see lines, we will just turn around and go home.

Dollar Tree is empty. Maybe 2 other people besides us. OK - get what we need (LOL and what we want) and schlep the packages out to the car.

I kinda missed you not running into the ‘Fat Cow with an Attitude’ again as I liked that story.

[Penton-Man]

like with Eli Lilly's bamlanivimab –

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Thee OC, that’s Orange County, California allocated 236 doses of bamlanivimab this week. For new readers, I’ll emphasize that this therapeutic is the closest thing we have for those infected with mild illness (so far) to prevent becoming seriously sick and possibly dying from COVID-19 until vaccines become widely available to everyone….which will take months.

Regeneron monoclonals Casirivimab and imdevimab now (as of yesterday) received FDA EUA.

If you, your parents or grandparents develop mild to moderate symptoms of COVID-19, but do not need to be hospitalized nor need O2 and fit one or more of the criteria for being at high risk -
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...tment-covid-19
https://www.fda.gov/media/143894/download

I would strongly recommend you go on record and ask the ER physician about Eli Lilly’s or Regeneron’s monoclonals and consider the infusion. Remember there is a very narrow window as to them being effective so one can’t procrastinate. This could be a life saving measure until we get the vaccines.

[ctujackbauer]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

like with Eli Lilly's bamlanivimab –

Regeneron monoclonals Casirivimab and imdevimab now (as of yesterday) received FDA EUA.

If you, your parents or grandparents develop mild to moderate symptoms of COVID-19, but do not need to be hospitalized nor need O2 and fit one or more of the criteria for being at high risk -
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...tment-covid-19
https://www.fda.gov/media/143894/download

I would strongly recommend you go on record and ask the ER physician about Eli Lilly’s or Regeneron’s monoclonals and consider the infusion. Remember there is a very narrow window as to them being effective so one can’t procrastinate. This could be a life saving measure until we get the vaccines.

Addendum: bring money, lots of money.

A full treatment of the Eli Lilly or Regeneron with a 20% copay out of pocket runs $2,500 to $10,000, with up to five full rounds.

No insurance? Up to $125,000

NPR - Government Signs Deal For COVID-19 Treatments From Eli Lilly

Unless you can snag one of the first 300,000 rounds of very low subsidized cost doses (see article).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by ctujackbauer

Addendum: bring money, lots of money.

A full treatment of the Eli Lilly or Regeneron with a 20% copay out of pocket runs $2,500 to $10,000, with up to five full rounds.

I’m not sure if it’s been reported yet, but my wife informs me that just recently Medicare and Medicaid have agreed to cover bamlanivilab, hopefully Regeneron’s monoclonals will follow as well as private insurance companies covering the cost too, so that shouldn’t be a barrier to getting it.

[oildude]

Originally Posted by MrHT

I'm popping in here after my one month hiatus from this thread to express my complete shock and concern for the staggering number of new cases over these past few weeks. We are at the point where some states have hit a 50% infection rate!!!!

Now, I'm going to assume the best in people and hope that most, if not everyone, are wearing masks, socially distancing and only going out for essential purposes. If that's the case, then I'm in complete amazement at how the infection rate has gotten as high as it is today! We are 8 months into this pandemic and things have gotten worse instead of better. I guess we're completely deadlocked on a solution other than hoping that the vaccine will completely solve this. Though at this point, I'm not optimistic that it will and this may be worse, much worse, than the Spanish Flu!

Please. Just. Stop.

This is utterly ridiculous.

The state with the highest percent of infections is North Dakota at just under 9% of the population. North Dakota has a bit over three-quarters of a million people. That is still a frighteningly high percentage but nowhere near your silly exaggeration.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by oildude

Please. Just. Stop.

This is utterly ridiculous.

The state with the highest percent of infections is North Dakota at just under 9% of the population. North Dakota has a bit over three-quarters of a million people. That is still a frighteningly high percentage but nowhere near your silly exaggeration.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/testing-positivity

Perhaps I’m missing something. I believe our governor uses that source to announce the current infection rates. As you can see, Wyoming is currently at 51%.

Wyoming 51.00%
South Dakota 46.30%
Iowa 45.01%
Idaho 42.25%
Kansas 33.32%

Quite staggering numbers if you ask me.... Or am I misunderstanding something?

[ctujackbauer]

Originally Posted by MrHT

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/testing-positivity

Perhaps I’m missing something. I believe our governor uses that source to announce the current infection rates. As you can see, Wyoming is currently at 51%.



Quite staggering numbers if you ask me.... Or am I misunderstanding something?

Infection rate: positives / population of state
Positivity rate: positives / people who tested

How are you an accountant?

[Pondosinatra]

Originally Posted by MrHT

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/testing-positivity

Perhaps I’m missing something. I believe our governor uses that source to announce the current infection rates. As you can see, Wyoming is currently at 51%.



Quite staggering numbers if you ask me.... Or am I misunderstanding something?

Apparently the entire island of Puerto Rico is infected...

Those are sad numbers, but I suspect the high positivity rate (not infection rate) is due to low numbers of testing.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by ctujackbauer

Infection rate: positives / population of state
Positivity rate: positives / people who tested

How are you an accountant?

I understand it’s the latter. There’s no way we can test the whole population. Still, those percentages are very disturbing, even if they’re just based on a sample.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I’m not sure if it’s been reported yet, but my wife informs me that just recently Medicare and Medicaid have agreed to cover bamlanivilab, hopefully Regeneron’s monoclonals will follow as well as private insurance companies covering the cost too, so that shouldn’t be a barrier to getting it.

Apparently, it has not been reported - https://www.cms.gov/
however, I can assure folks that CMS has agreed to covering bamlanivilab. The wife also informs that there are more than 100 different monoclonals approved for oncology, rheumatology, etc. and that they tend to be some of the safest therapeutics there are.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by bruceames

Not promote obviously, but rather just acknowledge the protective effect that partial herd immunity is having on hard hit areas like NYC, the cities in Sweden, Southeast England, and more recently, Miami and Houston.

It will come. I'm not impatient.

update on Sweden – https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news...ns-96379461530

P.S.
In terms of humane protective effect, your area, Marin County, received 59 doses of bamlanivimab and is expected to receive a similar allocation, if not more, depending on hospitalizations, this week and at a regular cadence moving forward.

[Pondosinatra]

Alberta now has the highest number of cases in the country.

[Hatter]

I want whatever drugs Dr. Tam and co.are taking to come up with irresponsible fear mongering figures of potentially reaching 60000 daily cases in the country of Canada. That's a 12-15x multiplier based on current record days.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by dublinbluray108

Europe is putting together a detailed vaccine rollout strategy to begin in early 2021. Europe is releasing a total of 6 vaccines so far to rollout to their entire population including Pfizer, Moderna & CureVac. I don't know about the other 3 vaccines in this new rollout plan.

The FDA have also received the application from Pfizer & Moderna today to determine approval for emergency use authorisation in the U.S.

If all goes well; those 2 vaccines before the FDA should get approval in Mid-Dec.

That doesn't take away the fact that Penton-Man had lost his brother in law to Covid-19. My sympathy goes out to your friends & family. May he RIP.

In the U.K., it’s looking like the first vaccines will happen in December. It’s going to be chaotic and I don’t know if I’m included. I work in social care but I would imagine NHS staff and care home workers would be first. (It needs clarification).