Official Film Noir on Blu-ray Thread - Page 143 - Blu-ray Forum

Iamspartacus · 07-12-2016, 06:55 PM

Ride the Pink Horse is very good and, in my opinion, more of a classic noir. However, Gilda is awesome and a more entertaining film.

The Great Owl · 07-12-2016, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Gilda vs. Ride The Pink Horse?

I'm sure they're both good, but does anyone have strong feelings as to which one is better?

Gilda and The Lady from Shanghai are tied as the two sexiest movie ever made.

Ride the Pink Horse is more akin to my definition of a film noir, and it's a superb film across the board, but I'd go with Gilda by a slim margin.

jayembee · 07-12-2016, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Gilda vs. Ride The Pink Horse?

I'm sure they're both good, but does anyone have strong feelings as to which one is better?

They're both better. For different reasons. I'd say that Ride the Pink Horse is a better noir, but Gilda is a more satisfying watch.

drb124 · 07-12-2016, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jetthead

I picked up the last of the noir films from Olive that I wanted with this sale:

I am still on the fence about Hoodlum Empire. I can't bring myself to pull the trigger. The others I like a lot.

RiFiFi1955 · 07-12-2016, 07:35 PM

Any of you guys see the 1957 picture 5 Steps to Danger with Sterling Hayden and Ruth Roman? I caught it on Netflix years ago and remember really enjoying it. I know it is not considered a great film or anything but I would like to see one of these companies put it out.

EVERYONE LIES · 07-12-2016, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RiFiFi1955

Any of you guys see the 1957 picture 5 Steps to Danger with Sterling Hayden and Ruth Roman? I caught it on Netflix years ago and remember really enjoying it. I know it is not considered a great film or anything but I would like to see one of these companies put it out.

I've seen it and thought it was a pretty solid film. I caught it a year ago or so when Sterling Hayden was the TCM Star of the Month. I'm surprised this hasn't been released yet, there are very few United Artists movies that have not made it to blu-ray.

Le Samourai · 07-12-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Gilda vs. Ride The Pink Horse?

I'm sure they're both good, but does anyone have strong feelings as to which one is better?

Gilda by a mile.

Ray Jackson · 07-12-2016, 10:07 PM

I'm just going to say something about Gilda that I know very well will probably inspired scorn and tomato-throwing ridicule...and deservedly so.

I can't get over the hot-pink colored spine on the Criterion case.

It's just so bizarre and out of left field imo--the cover is black and white and the spine is hot pink?

My dislike for it has nothing to do with anything other than my aesthetic aversion to the color pink. I'm a very liberal/progressive guy in almost every respect. I just don't like the color pink.

I've constructed a bookshelf full of beloved films, organized by spine color, that stands as an ode to my own personal chromatic preferences.

...every muscle is tight.

And I just can't imagine a hot pink spine standing out in the middle of it like a giant, Paris Hilton-inspired guerilla.

I know I have issues.

Ray Jackson · 07-12-2016, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lemonski

Ride the Pink Horse for me, it's a great little B-noir gem. I just don't get Gilda - if you take the attraction of Rita Hayworth out of it (granted, it is a fairly decent attraction

), I didn't think there was much to it. That said, I ordered it in the B&N sale - I'm going to give it a second shot.

Are you saying that if you remove Rita Hayworth from the mix, that it's an average film?

That's kind of how I feel about The Friends of Eddie Coyle and Robert Mitchum.

Aside from Mitchum's performance, it's a fairly generic 70s crime flick imo.

Herandar · 07-13-2016, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

And I just can't imagine a hot pink spine standing out in the middle of it like a giant, Paris Hilton-inspired guerilla

Get a sharpie. Problem solved.

lemonski · 07-13-2016, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Jackson

Are you saying that if you remove Rita Hayworth from the mix, that it's an average film?

Exactly, outside of Hayworth's star turn I found it unremarkable. I could be being a bit harsh though, I haven't seen it in a couple of years. I just found it too interior/set-bound, whereas Ride the Pink Horse takes place in exotic Mexico, the traditional destination for noir losers on the run.

hoytereden · 07-13-2016, 05:28 AM

I don't know why but Glenn Ford never clicked with me as a Noir actor. Maybe because the first movie I saw him in was the comedy Teahouse of the August Moon when I was little and that image stuck.

I also became a fan of his Westerns because that was my favorite genre as a kid.

Professor Echo · 07-13-2016, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by lemonski

Exactly, outside of Hayworth's star turn I found it unremarkable. I could be being a bit harsh though, I haven't seen it in a couple of years. I just found it too interior/set-bound, whereas Ride the Pink Horse takes place in exotic Mexico, the traditional destination for noir losers on the run.

NEW Mexico, not Mexico.

As far as I know it's the only noir film set in New Mexico.

belcherman · 07-13-2016, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hoytereden

I don't know why but Glenn Ford never clicked with me as a Noir actor. Maybe because the first movie I saw him in was the comedy Teahouse of the August Moon when I was little and that image stuck.

I also became a fan of his Westerns because that was my favorite genre as a kid.

Funny, I have just the opposite reaction. I could never really buy him in comedy. To me, he looks lost without a horse or a gun.

Modman · 07-13-2016, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Echo

NEW Mexico, not Mexico.

As far as I know it's the only noir film set in New Mexico.

I could be mistaken, but wasn't Ace in the Hole set in New Mexico?

Professor Echo · 07-13-2016, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Modman

I could be mistaken, but wasn't Ace in the Hole set in New Mexico?

Yes! Wow, great pull!

EVERYONE LIES · 07-13-2016, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hoytereden

I don't know why but Glenn Ford never clicked with me as a Noir actor. Maybe because the first movie I saw him in was the comedy Teahouse of the August Moon when I was little and that image stuck.

I also became a fan of his Westerns because that was my favorite genre as a kid.

Blasphemy. Glenn Ford is awesome. I do agree that Gilda is overrated.

Ray Jackson · 07-13-2016, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EVERYONE LIES

Blasphemy. Glenn Ford is awesome. I do agree that Gilda is overrated.

How do you feel about Ride The Pink Horse?

jetthead · 07-13-2016, 05:03 PM

Sometimes films are elevated to greatness by the actors that are in it and that's what Rita Hayworth does with Gilda. So this "except for Rita Hayworth..." nonsense is a terrible criticism of the movie.

Would On the Waterfront be as highly regarded if Brando wasn't in it? Or Casablanca without Bogart? Doubtful.

Ray Jackson · 07-13-2016, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jetthead

Sometimes films are elevated to greatness by the actors that are in it and that's what Rita Hayworth does with Gilda. So this "except for Rita Hayworth..." nonsense is a terrible criticism of the movie.

Would On the Waterfront be as highly regarded if Brando wasn't in it? Or Casablanca without Bogart? Doubtful.

You make a valid point.

But I do feel that there are some films that have one great performance and not much else that really stands out.

...I have no idea if Gilda is one of those films.

07-12-2016, 06:55 PM	#2841
Iamspartacus Expert Member Member since:Aug 2011 Blu-ray collection:18 Trading Score:69	Ride the Pink Horse is very good and, in my opinion, more of a classic noir. However, Gilda is awesome and a more entertaining film.

07-12-2016, 07:35 PM	#2845
RiFiFi1955 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Albany, NY 4K collection:104 Blu-ray collection:1930	Any of you guys see the 1957 picture 5 Steps to Danger with Sterling Hayden and Ruth Roman? I caught it on Netflix years ago and remember really enjoying it. I know it is not considered a great film or anything but I would like to see one of these companies put it out.

07-12-2016, 10:07 PM	#2848
Ray Jackson Blu-ray Duke Member since:Apr 2013 Location:The dark underbelly of Anytown, USA 4K collection:102 Blu-ray collection:455 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:74 Trading Score:183	I'm just going to say something about *Gilda* that I know very well will probably inspired scorn and tomato-throwing ridicule...and deservedly so. I can't get over the hot-pink colored spine on the Criterion case. It's just so bizarre and out of left field imo--the cover is black and white and the spine is hot pink? My dislike for it has nothing to do with anything other than my aesthetic aversion to the color pink. I'm a very liberal/progressive guy in almost every respect. I just don't like the color pink. I've constructed a bookshelf full of beloved films, organized by spine color, that stands as an ode to my own personal chromatic preferences. ...every muscle is tight. And I just can't imagine a hot pink spine standing out in the middle of it like a giant, Paris Hilton-inspired guerilla. I know I have issues.

07-13-2016, 05:28 AM	#2852
hoytereden Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2010 4K collection:213 Blu-ray collection:2598 DVD collection:689 Trading Score:5	I don't know why but Glenn Ford never clicked with me as a Noir actor. Maybe because the first movie I saw him in was the comedy Teahouse of the August Moon when I was little and that image stuck. I also became a fan of his Westerns because that was my favorite genre as a kid.

07-13-2016, 05:03 PM	#2859
jetthead Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Ohio USA 4K collection:29 Blu-ray collection:2101 DVD collection:39 Trading Score:10	Sometimes films are elevated to greatness by the actors that are in it and that's what Rita Hayworth does with *Gilda.* So this "except for Rita Hayworth..." nonsense is a terrible criticism of the movie. Would *On the Waterfront* be as highly regarded if Brando wasn't in it? Or Casablanca without Bogart? Doubtful.

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