INCEPTION Review Thread (SPOILERS!!)

[tommyboy81]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

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HAHAHA... are you serious? You don't remember the coolest fight scene in the film???

LOL! Yeah I remember but i mean that particular scene. There's also another pic of that scene I saw that wasn't in the film. Sorry but I wished it wasn't over so soon.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Buddy Christ

Ok EXPLAINED and I had to see it the second time to understand

[Show spoiler] LIMBO! When someone goes to limbo (they are so deep that when they die and a kick wont work, they go to a place that is pure unconscious) EXCEPT for it being a place that someone else was in limbo in the shared dream. Meaning that since Dom Cobb was the only other person that had experienced limbo, whenever someone else in that shared dream goes to limbo, it will have Cobbs "flavor" to it. When Saito was in limbo at the end it was Cobbs place on the shore where he and his wife spent 50 years. That is why Cobb felt he could find Saito there.

[Show spoiler]Wasn't he trying to save Fischer, not Saito?

[csdot]

Originally Posted by mikey6

i thought it had the right amount of gunfighting...

[Show spoiler]though i wished that anti gravity hallway fight scene would never end! not really a spoiler but i want to see if i know how to make a post spoiler proof in future

[Show spoiler]i thought the anti gravity part was amazing. you can always tell when someone on wires or on green screen or something but i remember being really impressed with how real it looked. the way JGL was floating around looked so natural. so much so that i wonder if they filmed in that NASA plane or whatever it is that they used to do the zero gravity in Apollo 13. i guess with the size of the set and complexity of the action that isnt really possible. i always try to dissect how they do things in movies and this one really stumped me.

[tommyboy81]

Originally Posted by Buddy Christ

Ok EXPLAINED and I had to see it the second time to understand

[Show spoiler] LIMBO! When someone goes to limbo (they are so deep that when they die and a kick wont work, they go to a place that is pure unconscious) EXCEPT for it being a place that someone else was in limbo in the shared dream. Meaning that since Dom Cobb was the only other person that had experienced limbo, whenever someone else in that shared dream goes to limbo, it will have Cobbs "flavor" to it. When Saito was in limbo at the end it was Cobbs place on the shore where he and his wife spent 50 years. That is why Cobb felt he could find Saito there.

To me

[Show spoiler] Limbo is a Coma

Thats just my opinion.

[tommyboy81]

Originally Posted by csdot

[Show spoiler]i thought the anti gravity part was amazing. you can always tell when someone on wires or on green screen or something but i remember being really impressed with how real it looked. the way JGL was floating around looked so natural. so much so that i wonder if they filmed in that NASA plane or whatever it is that they used to do the zero gravity in Apollo 13. i guess with the size of the set and complexity of the action that isnt really possible. i always try to dissect how they do things in movies and this one really stumped me.

[Show spoiler] well the hallway was a set piece. It was a rotating hallway.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by csdot

[Show spoiler]i thought the anti gravity part was amazing. you can always tell when someone on wires or on green screen or something but i remember being really impressed with how real it looked. the way JGL was floating around looked so natural. so much so that i wonder if they filmed in that NASA plane or whatever it is that they used to do the zero gravity in Apollo 13. i guess with the size of the set and complexity of the action that isnt really possible. i always try to dissect how they do things in movies and this one really stumped me.

They probably did the anti-gravity stuff in front of a green screen and then edited in the surroundings.

[Buddy Christ]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

[Show spoiler]Wasn't he trying to save Fischer, not Saito?

[Show spoiler] After Fischer was found and he said goodbye to his wife, his mission was to find Saito so his end of the bargain could be fulfilled. He let Ariadne go so he could find Saito. Without Cobb their limbo would have very hard to navigate.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Buddy Christ

[Show spoiler] After Fischer was found and he said goodbye to his wife, his mission was to find Saito so his end of the bargain could be fulfilled. He let Ariadne go so he could find Saito. Without Cobb their limbo would have very hard to navigate.

[Show spoiler]Yeah Cobb's personal issues actually saved them in there, even if they were the reason Fischer went to the bottom to begin with.

[Buddy Christ]

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

To me

[Show spoiler] Limbo is a Coma

Thats just my opinion.

Agreed!

[Show spoiler] But being so far down and time slows down so much, Saito was aged many years but still woke up on the plane with Cobb?!?!?

[csdot]

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

[Show spoiler] well the hallway was a set piece. It was a rotating hallway.

[Show spoiler]i understand the part where the gravity is shifting, im talking about when there is no gravity and he is literally floating, how they achieved such a realistic zero gravity is beyond me. i was impressed

[csdot]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

They probably did the anti-gravity stuff in front of a green screen and then edited in the surroundings.

i know i know, but im saying ive never seen wire work that looked that smooth. im saying thats whats impressive about it. its not blantantly obvious.

[tommyboy81]

Originally Posted by csdot

[Show spoiler]i understand the part where the gravity is shifting, im talking about when there is no gravity and he is literally floating, how they achieved such a realistic zero gravity is beyond me. i was impressed

Yeah sorry I got what you were saying after I relooked at your post.

[Buddy Christ]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

[Show spoiler]Yeah Cobb's personal issues actually saved them in there, even if they were the reason Fischer went to the bottom to begin with.

WOW

[Show spoiler] Great point!! Mal actually saved people. Then again a character without a torrid past makes for a very boring movie

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by tommyboy81

Yeah sorry I got what you were saying after I relooked at your post.

diCaprio and Levitt carry this movie, honestly I agree with Ebert, they over-idealized Cotillard a bit so you don't really attach to her character that much.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Buddy Christ

Agreed!

[Show spoiler] But being so far down and time slows down so much, Saito was aged many years but still woke up on the plane with Cobb?!?!?

Exactly.

[Show spoiler]Saito went down a good 5-10 minutes before Cobb. And that was already at the 3rd level of dreaming. So, that would be meer seconds, if not a fraction of a second, in reality and decades in limbo. REMEMBER THE MULTIPLYING TIME FACTOR PEOPLE.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Exactly.

[Show spoiler]Saito went down a good 5-10 minutes before Cobb. And that was already at the 3rd level of dreaming. So, that would be meer seconds, if not a fraction of a second, in reality and decades in limbo. REMEMBER THE MULTIPLYING TIME FACTOR PEOPLE.

[Show spoiler]1 minute
5 minutes
At the third level I think 1 second is 1 year? Or is it 10?

[Lepidopterous]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

I highly doubt that #2 is correct.

[Show spoiler]If that is the case, then he'd be dragging projections through the levels with him. And, if all of the main characters of the film are projections, they couldn't be just his. They would be his wifes as well since they were sharing the dream together. In that case, the only explanation would be that Cilian Murphy's character is trying to invade his dreams and they are all attacking him for that reason. This theory totally destroys any depth of meaning to the film for me.

I highly doubt that Nolan intended for this to be that simple. And, if it WERE that simple? He would have made it much more viable an option.

Hmm.

[Show spoiler]Well like I said, I still have to assess the film to explore those outcomes I proposed. Even applying your logic would seem a delicate task. There are many factors to consider as well as angles to approach it. I wouldn't automatically dismiss any due to simplicity.

However, I will say the movie was surprisingly easy to follow.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

[Show spoiler]1 minute
5 minutes
At the third level I think 1 second is 1 year? Or is it 10?

Something like that.

[Show spoiler]I believe that it is 10 years actually. Ardiane says something like "Who would want to stay in a dream for 10 years?" when they are discussing the 3rd level and how much time they will have?

So, imagine the multiplication factor in taking the measure of time through to the Nth degree of levels?

[Lepidopterous]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

Something like that.

[Show spoiler]I believe that it is 10 years actually. Ardiane says something like "Who would want to stay in a dream for 10 years?" when they are discussing the 3rd level and how much time they will have?

So, imagine the multiplication factor in taking the measure of time through to the Nth degree of levels?

[Show spoiler]I think 1 second = 6 minutes in the 3rd level.

I recall him saying 10 seconds left, then *something* for the 2nd layer, then in the snow: "That means we have an hour. Is there a shorter route?"

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by DjMethod

[Show spoiler]I think 1 second = 6 minutes in the 3rd level.

I recall him saying 10 seconds left, then *something* for the 2nd layer, then in the snow: "That means we have an hour. Is there a shorter route?"

[Show spoiler]Didn't the entire third act of the movie take place after he slammed the van into the wall and went off the bridge? That's just insane. Well the third act up till the final scene, of course.