HDR Discussion Thread

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

A lot of that is BS. YouTube doesn't support HDR10+.

Considering HDR10+ is a BS format it's appropriate

[Penton-Man]

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Robert Z., I’m not sure if, like in 2019, there will be a live appearance with Larry-ZZ Top - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post18635573

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Although the FSI XM310K - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K9o...ature=youtu.be is not that commonplace in studios and elite post houses as compared to the Sony Master Monitors, I think over time as more facilities transition from the old Sony BVM-X300 4K OLED Master Monitor to the HX310 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz8c1QJLkx4#t=3m35s and if light modulating cell layer (professional) panels remain accessible to Sony from a vendor, you’ll see the nits levels increasing a bit on feature film and episodic home deliverables, especially with filmmakers becoming more comfortable and experienced with the value of HDR/WCG for their storytelling.

I recall that Vincent Teoh did a pretty good review on the HX310 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ee74qdPcmY#t=11m30s , all I’ll add is that there is HX310 panel variability with most of them calibrating at around 940 – 985 nits, few hit the 1000 nit mark.

Continuing on from ^ yesterday,
Today from Tyler Pruitt -
“While the Sony OLED reference monitors are still immensely popular, you can’t buy one new today. They’re no longer being manufactured. So, the industry is migrating back to using an LCD-based display for the artist’s reference monitor, and these monitors don’t require any offset. D65 looks neutral on them, and what’s interesting is that the OLED televisions at D65 look similar to these new LCDs. So right now, in suites that switched from an OLED reference monitor to one of these LCD-based monitors, the OLED television large-format monitor is now calibrated back to D65. Hollywood is once again embracing a D65 world."
from - https://www.metexpo.com.au/the-compl...r-calibration/

I will say that there are some who feel (thru their eyes) that due to the spectral distribution of non-OLEDs (mastering monitors) and OLEDs (client monitors) being so fundamentally different that the mastering v. client displays in the same room still look a little different from each other, even negating any difference due to luminance. Mixing different light source technologies is complicated….and/or is the human visual system.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Nomadland....The show must go on.

Article includes Nomadland in the roundup of all the nominees. Long, but worthwhile read -
https://blog.frame.io/2021/04/26/osc...kflow-roundup/

[LordoftheRings]

Two words Penton: Best Cinematography

* Excellent article you just posted above.

[LexInHD]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

A lot of that is BS. YouTube doesn't support HDR10+.

YouTube does support HDR10+. It's referenced as "dynamic metadata" on the YouTube Help page for uploading High Dynamic Range videos.

[LordoftheRings]

And not only that but it also supports 8K.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Two words Penton: Best Cinematography

Well, we kinda figured that with Mank, but I think you’ll like My Octopus Teacher, too, not to mention its moving storytelling , now playing on Netflix.

[BrownianMotion]

Originally Posted by LexInHD

YouTube does support HDR10+. It's referenced as "dynamic metadata" on the YouTube Help page for uploading High Dynamic Range videos.

Ah, I guess I was wrong. I found this:

To be processed, HDR videos must be tagged with the correct:

Transfer function (PQ or HLG)
Color primaries (Rec. 2020)
Matrix (Rec. 2020 non-constant luminance)

HDR videos using PQ signaling should also contain information about the display it was mastered on (SMPTE ST 2086 mastering metadata). It should also have details about the brightness (CEA 861-3 MaxFALL and MaxCLL). If it's missing, we use the values for the Sony BVM-X300 mastering display,.

Optionally, HDR videos may contain dynamic (HDR10+) metadata as ITU-T T.35 terminal codes or as SEI headers.

https://support.google.com/youtube/a...2Chdr-metadata

Interesting that it was never officially announced, as far as I know.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Well, we kinda figured that with Mank, but I think you’ll like My Octopus Teacher, too, not to mention its moving storytelling , now playing on Netflix.

Yes, I too highly recommend this awesome documentary ^ also from Netflix.
And not to be dismissed ... HDR (Bottom)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ord7...ature=youtu.be

_____

* Bonus (because music also matters) ... James Bond

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoCh...ature=youtu.be

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

I cannot wait to see what they do to with the Venice

here a LUT, there a LUT, everywhere a LUT LUT (for free) -
https://sonycine.com/resources/luts/

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

here a LUT, there a LUT, everywhere a LUT LUT (for free) -
https://sonycine.com/resources/luts/

Christopher McQuarrie (@chrismcquarrie) Tweeted:
@dvdmike Yes. It’s extraordinary. As for the Venice, I’m very impressed with it. https://twitter.com/chrismcquarrie/s...161155595?s=20

[LexInHD]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

Interesting that it was never officially announced, as far as I know.

Samsung handled it, in conjunction with the experimental deployment of HDR10/HDR10+ on their mobile phones and tablets, for video recording and playback. I believe it came with their sit-down with Google, over Android and Samsung's heavy-customization of it and pushing their own App store and equivalent apps to what Google was offering. The thing with Samsung is that their focusing is not where it should be, so their promotion (and lack thereoff) of stuff is rather bewildering sometimes.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Christopher McQuarrie (@chrismcquarrie) Tweeted:
@dvdmike Yes. It’s extraordinary. As for the Venice, I’m very impressed with it. https://twitter.com/chrismcquarrie/s...161155595?s=20

and, its so versatile that you can not only mount them in the cockpit of fighter jets - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...w#post17194955 , but also hang them from trees to image a movie star running thru the woods in the snow

[vonDubenshire]

The official press release ( https://hdr10plus.org/wp-content/upl...4212021-v2.pdf )

for the Roku\Google\Paramount thing for HDR10+ had a link at the bottom to this:

https://hdr10plus.org/wp-content/upl...Whitepaper.pdf

[vonDubenshire]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

Ah, I guess I was wrong. I found this:



https://support.google.com/youtube/a...2Chdr-metadata

Interesting that it was never officially announced, as far as I know.

Joker on my GoogleTV (Android app). I tested it on my Chromecast w/ GoogleTV, it plays in DV. If I use the Roku built-in YouTube app, it plays in HDR regular. My TCL6 doesn't support HDR10+.



I own this as a cheap bedroom TV, and I actually saw Amazon PRime shows display an HDR10+ logo a few times, it was very odd.
https://www.tcl.com/us/en/products/h...roid-tv-50s434

[Agent Kay]

I can only see Warner stuff as 10+

Shame google doesn't support HDR on more platforms

[vonDubenshire]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

I can only see Warner stuff as 10+

Shame google doesn't support HDR on more platforms

Joker & the Hobbit movies have options for Dolby & HDR 10+

[Penton-Man]

heads-up to live HDR production - https://xo1qbox1.pages.infusionsoft.net/

[puddy77]

How Pixar Uses Hyper-Colors to Hack Your Brain

https://www.wired.com/story/how-pixa...ck-your-brain/

It's an excerpt from the book Full Spectrum by Adam Rogers. I'm sharing because it details Pixar's custom Dolby Cinema projector. Apparently it's a 10ft screen putting out 1000 nits.

Dolby Cinema output is 108 nits, but Pixar amps it up even more. Sitting at the control panel of the Pixar system, senior scientist Dominic Glynn practically glows with praise. “We've goosed this projector with an extra 600 percent laser power. We can get well above a thousand nits on this screen,” he says. “It's one of the most linear, perfect reference color-grading displays you can conceive of.”

It's the first I've heard of this. Man, what I'd give to watch something on that screen...