4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Derb

What's that icon on the lower right of the picture?
I swear I am seeing a big yellow

It was the 2014 FIFA World Cup logo
Juntos num só ritmo (All in one rhythm)

Derb, if to you, the whole pitch (field) looks grey-ish - http://www.colourblindawareness.org/...our-blindness/ (except for 2014 FIFA World Cup logo that is), I’m hoping you don’t drive ….especially when my wife and I fly into the airport there and then have to take a motor vehicle to the hotel we normally stay at downtown.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

rofl!!!!!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Looks like you got it spot on, from the article "The Blu-ray standard is actually a 10-bit 10,000 Nit container, but we will self police to a 1000 Nit level." - See more at: http://www.insideci.co.uk/articles/i....UWihdQuN.dpuf

I know it's early but it makes me wonder if Blu-ray could stretch to 8K.....

Don't get your hopes up.

[Penton-Man]

The post company that did the DI for the feature motion picture (OAS:TNC) as described to Kris Deering here – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post10107534 is currently working on an episodic television show to be produced entirely in HDR.

Have a Happy 4th folks.
Root for our women tomorrow.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by bailey1987

Looks like you got it spot on, from the article "The Blu-ray standard is actually a 10-bit 10,000 Nit container, but we will self police to a 1000 Nit level." - See more at: http://www.insideci.co.uk/articles/i....UWihdQuN.dpuf

I know it's early but it makes me wonder if Blu-ray could stretch to 8K, judging by the 10,000 nit comment it looks like it could do.

What does the brightness have to do with the spatial resolution?

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

It was the 2014 FIFA World Cup logo
Juntos num só ritmo (All in one rhythm)

Derb, if to you, the whole pitch (field) looks grey-ish - http://www.colourblindawareness.org/...our-blindness/ (except for 2014 FIFA World Cup logo that is), I’m hoping you don’t drive ….especially when my wife and I fly into the airport there and then have to take a motor vehicle to the hotel we normally stay at downtown.

In general, I'm just surprised at how bad a "capture" of that image is. I didn't know facepalm was their official logo.

No color blindness here though I do have laser eyes which was over "corrected" then 20/20 vision so I see detail more accurately represented from distances further away & up close.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Derb

No color blindness here though I do have laser eyes which was over "corrected" then 20/20 vision so I see detail more accurately represented from distances further away & up close.

You've got laser eyes? I'd love me some of them.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You've got laser eyes? I'd love me some of them.

They are not too bad. 3K is a bit pricey IMO for them. The downside is I can see which pixels are locked on my 4K set from 7 feet away..

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Derb

They are not too bad. 3K is a bit pricey IMO for them. The downside is I can see which pixels are locked on my 4K set from 7 feet away..

not sure if you are playing along, but I believe Geoff post was a joke because you said " I do have laser eyes"

instead of "I had laser eye surgery"

[Geoff D]

That is correct, sir.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

What does the brightness have to do with the spatial resolution?

On the other hand, regarding brightness and WCG (wide color gamut).

Well, with WCG alone coming to UHD, there will be a *modest* improvement to the color, but people shouldn’t expect too much out of WCG (by itself) with a lot of motion pictures. Think about it, in the past when you’ve ventured to a D-Cinema (without the kids) to watch theatrical movies over the years, have you ever walked out after the show thinking/remarking… ‘wow, those colors of that theatrical motion picture presentation looked soooo much better than what I normally see with my Blu-ray movies at home’.

I think not.

Where WCG can more readily make imagery look more colorful (saturated), if the filmmaker, with the help of the colorist, chooses to exploit the potential, that is, is when the P3 gamut is combined or augmented by the brightness of HDR. Heck, even the colors of Rec. 709 when augmented by HDR can look better than Rec. 709 SDR.

Best way to think of the concept is rather than thinking about color gamuts in terms of CIE chromaticity charts and plotted triangles of 709, P3, 2020 as typically depicted for illustrative comparisons.... https://ascmag.com/blog

is to envision more of a 3D volumetric appearance, considering both color and intensity (brightness) in order to show the resultant color potential of a particular gamut when you add the brightness of HDR to the traditional intensity.

For example, here a pic of P3 color volume in SDR range (~ 0-100 nits) with nits being on the y axis if the numbers are difficult for some to read -



Now, here a pic of HDR P3 color volume boundaries (the larger green cubic like structure enveloping SDR P3) which are roughly possible when grading in HDR (Dolby) displaying on a Pulsar monitor. (in this case, Dolby is calling it EDR which stands for Extended Dynamic Range but that’s just semantics)


^ you can chop off the top of it a little to the 1,000 nit mark to simulate what some high end LCD consumer displays would be capable of showing.

Proof of concept (more brightness = better colors) some folks might ask?

Well, as evidenced by the glorious colors of the HDR video clip as seen running on the Sony HDR-capable reference monitor at NAB 2015 described here

Albeit, to be precise, with the Sony monitor employing a different EOTF to facilitate the HDR imagery rather than Dolby’s solution and having a max luminance of around 1,000 nits which is admittedly far less than the Dolby Pulsar, but I think the color+brightness proof of concept still easily holds.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Derb

3K is a bit pricey IMO for them.

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I’d pay 3K for that ability …even without the salesman throwing in the flying part and the kit.

[Geoff D]

"Punto del bianco" sounds so much exotic than "white point".

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

not sure if you are playing along, but I believe Geoff post was a joke because you said " I do have laser eyes"

instead of "I had laser eye surgery"

Oh I got the joke.

Though, having those type of Lasers eyes might hurt your viewing experience.

[Geoff D]

Was that last bit a joke too? It's kinda hard to get a read on you bro.

[Derb]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Was that last bit a joke too? It's kinda hard to get a read on you bro.

Yes, a poor joke.

[singhcr]

Those graphs are fascinating, Penton. Thank you again for providing cool stuff like this.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

"Punto del bianco" sounds so much exotic than "white point".

To the admittedly visually boring triangles on the CIE chromaticity chart, I thought it good for a change to bring in a little Dave Stoller ….

Breaking Away (1979) - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Those graphs are fascinating, Penton. Thank you again for providing cool stuff like this.

I thought it good to post a little bit about HDR’s value to color, since that aspect appears undiscovered by the mass media that now blogs about high dynamic range in regards to helping only/primarily with contrast.

Furthermore, with hands-on, err, should I perhaps say eyes-on practice even by early HDR feature film/episodic television show content creators, the whole thing is quite disruptive (mostly in a good way) because those lucky filmmakers who have been given the opportunity to actually work in Dolby Vision, for instance, haven’t expected seeing even the basic changes in color saturation from scene-to-scene after converting their P3 color graded files to the Perceptual Quantizer (HDR/Dolby) powered brighter color space…..before tweaking from there for the final look.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Very disappointed to see Ant-man with 1.85:1 and a 2K DI. Even worse to see Terminator Genisys with a 2K DI, at least it is a 2.40:1. Both films have Dolby Atmos so hopefully the BD release will have the same, DTS:X will be OK as well.